Jamie21

You do need a bit of response sometimes. I had a client who just lay there like a corpse… I mean you start to think ‘am I doing something wrong? Is he enjoying it? Is there still a pulse?’… That makes it difficult to get hard if you think there’s a problem. I had to really focus (and check his vitals). I asked afterwards “how was it for you?” (obviously using less cliched language) and he said he loved it. Well it certainly didn’t seem that way! Whereas those clients who give encouraging responses are so much easier to get up for.

There’s everything in London.

Check with them that they’re ok to work together. You’ll end up paying them both whatever their rate is for a duo session. Either directly to each of them if you book them separately or through the main guy if you ask him to arrange it. Their rate will be different for a duo session than if you just book one of them on his own.

He seems sure he likes straight men…given it’s mentioned twice. I need a decorator who gives oral but I’m not straight ugh. Where are all the oral giving decorators who are fine with gays?

Ha ha, yes. That’s lust though. King Charles knows what love is now…but he didn’t when he replied to the question about being in love with Diana “yes…whatever ‘in love’ means” in 1981.

Offering paid for services is prohibited on Sniffies under their terms. That doesn’t mean some will try. I’m on it but I don’t use it to find clients and haven’t used it recreationally either yet but if I’m travelling somewhere new and not working then I think it could be useful.

Sniffies Hookup site…

There’s no rules about what should or shouldn’t happen in an overnight or for how long it lasts. It’s whatever gets agreed between you and the client. If that includes sleeping time then why not? Some people like to wake up with a warm body next to them ready to play. Be warned though, I snore and I dribble in my sleep. I don’t charge extra for that……..Oh and I don’t do overnights as it’s too much hassle now unless of course he’s paying lots. Everyone has a price 😂.

Well as I share the studio where I work (in calls) then if there’s someone else using it soon after me then I do need to be strict on time (not so much with out calls). On this occasion the place was free afterwards so I was ok to extend and honestly on hearing his story I just couldn’t rush him. I just wanted to hug him.

I saw a client recently who was visiting London. A lot of my clients are visitors, usually from the US or countries where the cost of living is similar to here. However this guy wasn’t from the usual places. Before we start a session I do a short chat about their reasons for booking, any preferences, no go areas, injuries etc. Often it’s just a couple of minutes and all is straightforward. However this client shared with me some of his motivations and reasons for booking which were more in depth than usual. I won’t say what it was because it’s private and not so relevant to this thread (although it was very relevant to the session). By the time we’d talked (and he really wanted to share this with me so I didn’t try to curtail the chat) we were well into the hour and he wasn’t even naked! In the circumstances I decided to extend the session so he got the full hour of activity although I didn’t tell him, I just decided not to rush him to finish on the hour. Afterwards he shared with me that he’d thought long and hard about booking with me because in his home country the cost of my session is the same as what he’d spend on a month of groceries. (Note that when he booked he’d never tried to negotiate). However he said he’d decided to go ahead and treat himself and he was really glad he had because it was worth it. These kind of meetings are really where I get a lot of satisfaction in the work, and it’s a reminder that hiring isn’t exclusively done by those with plenty of disposable income.

Yes it’s more tax efficient to lease…

They do hire. Because they can. They buy everything with money: goods, companionship, knowledge, sex….in their world everything is a commodity that can be purchased. If they got it for free then they’d think there’s something wrong with it.

I agree with @soloyo215, why pay the deposit before all the details are agreed? I guess that because he advertises as offering the activities you wanted you probably assumed he’d be willing to do them, which seems reasonable. My guess is he’s willing to include those activities but selectively depending on the client. If that’s the case then you probably saved yourself a bad meet. The money sounds like it’s gone.

Very sad. He was unique.

Must admit I like it a lot when clients book me after having watched my content. If they are over the top gushing then yes there is a slight sense of “is he for real?” but I’ve never had a sense of there being a safety risk. If they say about how they like my work and are excited to book a session then actually that’s quite a big turn on, and I’m motivated to ensure they have a great time.

I have filmed with him. Lovely guy, intelligent, friendly and fun.

It’s £40 per month for me to advertise. Happy to advertise there if I get the first 6m free so I can see whether it generates business. I’m well connected in the industry so would make recommendations to others if it is a good site. @pvd901Contact me if you’re interested.

This one. It provides enough information for a response and then you can progress to more detailed discussion once you have a positive response from him. I always find the difficult enquiries are those where I get a long explanation straight off…it’s nice to know the client’s motivations but I don’t need a life story or a detailed breakdown of what kind of activities he likes and why. Or the other end of the scale…the “hi” or the “hi interested to hear more about your services” are the most difficult openers. It’s far too vague. I appreciate maybe they want to initiate the discussion somehow but I can’t really type a long answer to every enquiry like that so I say ‘have a look at my website and ask anything if you can’t find the answer there’. “Hi” usually just gets responded to with “hi”. What else can I say? So I think @APPLE1has got it nicely phrased and succinct. Once you have a decent reply to that opening then you can ask about rates and any questions that his advertising didn’t answer or was vague about. You’re right that a good provider should lead the conversation but only to the extent that you help him by being clear and succinct. He won’t be bothered to tease it out of you.

I don’t do out calls if it’s too far away or just difficult to get to or is in a dodgy area. Also, I need to take the table so usually I can’t use public transport unless the client doesn’t want the table (so we use the bed). Each person operates differently so i understand why some might prefer to have their Uber paid for by the client. I think it’s ike the difference between a low cost airline where everything is broken down into a menu of options, all individually priced ….or a full service airline where everything is included in the headline price. The client decides which airline gets their business.

As will they no doubt. Everyone has ways of sifting out the people they don’t want to deal with. It saves a lot of trouble.

And of course you don’t have to buy the provider who asks for an Uber. Isn’t that wonderful 🙂

I think sometimes it’s to indicate your reliability. More likely you’re genuine if you arrange and pay for the Uber. I’ve done out calls and when I arrive at the client’s location and then they go silent on me. Waste of time and money. So I can understand why some guys might ask for an Uber… These days I have other ways to identify and weed out time wasters so I prefer to arrange and pay for my own travel. I think the main reason why some guys ask for an Uber is simply because they can…

Interesting. Almost all ATM’s here (UK) are free to use to any bank customer. I bank with X Bank but I can withdraw cash, for free, from A, B, C bank etc. It’s an open network. No one uses cheques any more, I last wrote a personal cheque 10 years ago. Everything is electronic. I can do all my banking on my phone or laptop. Most of my clients pay by card, they just tap their card on my card reader, it shows on their bank statement as “gay naked massage”…. 🤪. No sorry just teasing!! it shows as JamesW. Very discreet, could be anything. A few clients pay cash but it’s unusual. I think the disappearance of cash is unfortunate because anonymity is important in an open society.

Of course in the UK (and most of Europe) this isn’t applicable because we have a sensible attitude towards consenting commercial behaviour between adults in private… so feel free to ask for a happy ending and more. Live life, have fun.

Ha ha yes that’s familiar. I usually say ‘next time’ and then make a note so if he books again I should be ready (and should reflect it in the price). It’s not just bottoming though, I find clients sometimes want to finger me and I prefer to know beforehand if they want to do that so I can prepare. Clients can be shy about asking these type of questions but really, it’s not necessary to be coy. I’ve heard everything.