Jamie21

Kenny Rogers! 👍….so while we’re on Kenny, you’ve also go to know when to walk away, and know when to run. That’s about knowing when to decline a potential client.

I’ll chip in with mine. Treat each client as an individual, make it an intensely personal experience.

No decent masseur should require a face pic. If he’s asking for one then it’s a sign he’s not going to be any good. Move on to a professional.

I guess the divorce is usually more expensive than the wedding.

Some clients like to watch. I’ve done sessions where the client watches me with another provider. The client tends to join in after a while, then we make sure he’s the focus. I only do these type of sessions with providers I’m comfortable working with. I’ve also done sessions for clients who are partners and they enjoy watching me with their partner (although occasionally I can sense one partner is much more into it than the other one). These kind of scenarios appeal to people’s exhibitionist or voyeuristic tendencies. Nothing wrong with that. It’s not for everyone but if it’s your thing then go for it. Personally I love the exhibitionist opportunities my work brings.

Yes this happens to me too. Especially if I get really close, and then go all the way back to being semi, and start again. That kind of edging is a good thing to practice to be able to control when you cum. I make porn films so it helps me to cum at the right time in those. I agree. It seems to me to be a sine qua non of being a provider that one would provide oral. Obviously everyone is entitled to decide their limits but it’s like being a taxi driver and not turning left. I mean, why would you do sex work but rule out something like that? If you’re doing massage then it’s understandable to me to possibly draw the line there, but not if you’re doing escorting. Most of my work is massage and I find it hard to resist not to provide oral! I see it as an integral part of the massage, although I do have had clients who specifically request no oral (I think this because of concerns over catching something more than them not liking it). It’s always worth checking with him, either by explicitly asking or by positioning your lips on the head and seeing if he invites you to go further!.

I’ve no problem with it. It’s quite an attractive thing to see, especially if you have been sucking and when you stop and lift your head there’s a string of pre cum connecting you to the cock. I understand the anxiety about a client cumming in your mouth when you didn’t expect it but that’s something that one can usually anticipate!

I just say ‘I’m single’ if asked. I think you probably thought too much about his question. I mean isn’t a lot of what we do point a) in your post above? We create a fantasy and a fantasy is about suspending the truth or reality for a period. No harm in it. Perhaps by responding with “I’ll be whatever you want me to be” was a bit too much ‘letting of light in upon magic’? Maybe that’s why he got upset. I think you can be whoever he wants you to be to the limit of your willingness to do it (that is part of the job) but making it explicit like that ruins the fantasy.

I don’t show my face on the Onlyfans, which does impact on the number of subscribers but that’s ok, I get plenty of subscribers and the revenue is welcome. I’ve got a back catalogue of over 100 films on there so it’s kind of a passive income to supplement my other work. I’ve never done any drugs, and I don’t see clients who are wanting to use drugs (they can use poppers).

I don’t have much of a sex life outside of work! I agree with @Simon SuraciDoing sex work does indeed make your recreational sex life difficult. I recognise all those reasons he cites: The feeling of thinking “I could be being paid for this” is a strong one, as is trying to keep ‘fresh’ for client meetings. Sometimes I go to sex parties and that’s an opportunity for ‘off the clock’ sex which is nice but still there’s the feeling that it’s ‘work’. I almost said to one guy after a hookup at a party “how would you like to pay?” 😂. One of the motivations for going to sex parties is because of the opportunity to meet guys who are keen to be in porn films I make, so even that is motivated by work. Doing sex work definitely changes your sex life.

He did! In the end it worked out ok and he apologised. We had a good session and he left happy (minus two loads 😂). In his case it was genuinely because he got caught out by demonstrations in London. I’m glad I gave him a chance. I think it’s impossible to work in a customer facing industry and completely avoid either inconsiderate clients or scheduling foul ups. For the many good clients who are great to see you’ll get a few who are trouble, and a fair share of time waste enquiries. That’s the way of life and whilst you do all you can to minimise the incidence of bad ones they only serve to put in contrast the majority who are great.

That’s understandable. I know clients get nervous. It doesn’t excuse just not showing up and not letting me know you’ve changed your mind though! If he’s rude to you for saying you’re anxious so are cancelling then that’s a good sign that he wasn’t the right guy for you. If he responds with understanding then you’ll know he’s the right guy for you. Go ahead and see him. I know clients who got to the door, and almost turned around again because of the anxiety. But I see it is part of the job to recognise this and help them overcome it. There’s so much going on when you book a sensual massage or escort session: feelings of excitement, guilt, shame, anxiety, self consciousness, fear, anticipation, desire. All of these might be going on with the client. A good guy will understand and help their client deal with it, assuming the client actually tells him.

Possibly. There’s a back story to how that happened which I didn’t tell. This late client had messaged me about a month earlier to enquire about my availability on the said day. I had confirmed that I was available (which at the time was correct). He said he’d confirm a booking with me the week before (his number was from abroad so I assume he’s planning a visit to London - this happens a lot. Some book, some I never hear from). In his case he doesn’t message me a week ahead to book but leaves it to the day and then messages asking for a booking. But he’s too late; I’m busy that day. He’s really disappointed etc. Desperately wants to meet…so I go against my usual process and book him in a window the next day. This is how I end up scheduling him half hour before another booking. Indeed I disrupted my other plans to find him this time….and then he’s turning up over 40 minutes late for an hour session. I didn’t error by timing the appointment as I did with half hour between, I errored by ignoring my instincts in the first place and feeling sympathy for him! Now I’ve made what could be an even bigger mistake by agreeing to see him today because he was upset at the appointment he couldn’t make. Will he be another no show…..

I had a no show last weekend. Or to be precise he was very late. 10 minutes before start time he messaged me to say ‘I might be a bit late’. Turns out he’s tried to take a taxi, in central London on a Saturday. Even worse…on this Saturday there’s demonstrations on so roads are closed. He could have walked to me…. When I message him back to find out his ETA it appears he has no idea where he is, so I ask him to send his current location by WhatsApp. I can see that he’s at least half hour drive away and we should have started 15 minutes ago by now…. I’ve another client after his session was due to end (half hour gap between the two) so I tell him that it’s not worth him coming and I cancel his booking, which eventually he accepts (after some begging to be rescheduled etc). I understand if you’re in an unfamiliar city that it’s possible to get lost or caught up in expected situations but really is it so difficult these days to not work out how long it will take you to get somewhere and to build in a buffer, especially if you’re new to the place? If he was as desperate to see me as he claimed he was then he’d have checked his travel plans and timing better. I think some people are simply incapable of organising themselves and it usually shows by how they behave when they book. I’m sure that 95% of no shows are primarily because of the attitude and mindset of the client, in other words, they’re avoidable. Same applies with provider no shows: 95% avoidable with the right attitude.

I thought this thread was about a cloudy night sky. Evidently not…

I understand that the Racoon now asks for deposits.

I had a client like that. Told me “I’m not gay or anything but you suck my cock better than my girlfriend”. Then he liked a finger inside because she wouldn’t do that for him. But he definitely wasn’t gay…. Then he asked if he could try sucking me, which he enjoyed (I didn’t - too much teeth). But he said he definitely wasn’t gay. Lots going on 🙂.

The usual answer….ask, communicate, explain, be respectful. If he’s good he’ll have a website that will give you as much information as you need to understand what is included. I always check with my client before the massage starts what their boundaries are: no one welcomes prostate massage if they really don’t like anything penetrating them. So for things like that I check it’s ok. Otherwise I read their reactions whilst they are on the table. I also say that they are welcome to interact with me as much or as little as they like. Then they can decide what they are comfortable with. Beware of choreographing the massage too much though, the best sensual massages are a mix of the unexpected and the familiar. They take you on a journey with the destination almost always a climax but it doesn’t necessarily have to be so. If you definitely want full escort service then book an escort because if you’re paying a sensual massage rate it’s not reasonable to expect him to f*ck you (although of course it does sometimes happen).

There’s a similar feature on Rentmasseur, it tells me when people have viewed my profile and suggests “a premium Rentmasseur client has viewed your profile…he may be interested in you so consider contacting him etc”. I never do initiate contact because I think it’s up to them. Some of these premium Rentmasseur clients view my profile dozens of times. Maybe they’re rubbing one out to the pics, and that’s fine (if that’s you …I have a justforfans 😉) but I think it’s more likely they’re just thinking about it. I reckon it takes a lot of intention to hire a sex worker because of the nature of the work and all the issues that surround it. If my clients have put a lot of thought into hiring me then that’s great. I want that. Clients who hire on a whim tend to be more flaky, treat you like you’re a commodity and don’t value the service. I don’t need that. Give me someone who’s thought long and hard about it, is invested in the decision and who has seen what I’m about and said “yes I’d like to meet him”.

I once did a triple toe loop, double salchow and triple lutz during a particularly energetic session with a client…but it was unintentional because it happened as I fell off the massage table. I got a good score for artistic expression but the client scored me lower on rimming technical merit.

I love these kind of places. So few exist. I’ve not been to it but I have been to similar venues. The attraction seems to me to be a mix of the opportunity for exhibitionism: to do outrageous acts in public that wouldn’t be possible in polite society, the sheer randomness of encounters that @Coolwave35so evocatively describes and the democratisation that a dark room provides where what you look like isn’t such an issue. For me the greater variety of people there the better; straight, gay, old, young, male, female and everything in between. It’s society but with the rules changed, where it seems that almost endless possibilities exist.

Ok this will get it going. Pineapple on pizza? Yes or No?

So many milestones 🙂 You’ve commented on a ‘Deposits’ thread (usually one regrets that decision…but I’ll let you decide that) and you have an ‘Explorer’ badge! Congratulations.

Or his initial request to the provider always appears to be so sketchy that even the most relaxed provider who never asks for a deposit changes his policy and asks for one having received his request….

Do it! Please 🙏 When I retire I’m writing a book on my experiences. Some unwritten rules will be written then.