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Alas! My very first sexual experience began in a men's room of a public transit terminal in midtown Manhattan. I might still be a virgin if it weren't for that! 🙄

I'm in Puerto Vallarta right now, and my previous description of dancers at each club no longer applies.  Both 69 and WetDreams have gorgeous muscle hunks, and not a Twink in site at either establishment.  This may change when busy season starts the week of Thanksgiving.
One thing does remain the same: the dancers at WetDreams are extremely aggressive, interrupting customers already involved with another dancer to ask them for tips.  I keep going to WetDreams for the sexy shower 🚿 setup, but enjoy 69 more for the atmosphere and customer service (waiters bring your drink to your seat, dancers respect when you're already talking with another dancer, dancers offer to wipe their cum off your lips, etc.)

Except maybe you? 😊

Decades ago late one night at the Hotel Bel Air, I had only my client's first name and his NY cell phone.  But there was, and probably still isn't, good ATT reception in Bel Air.  It took a lot of calls from gate security to the manager to get them to call the guest with, luckily, a unique first name. Eventually, they let me in and boy was he young and rich and fun. No one famous.
Another story I've told here too often was the OC client who wanted me to strip fully down then knock naked on his Beverly Hills Peninsula room door at 4am.  I took the dare, but chickened out mostly:  the area around his door wasn't quite as private as he sold it, I took off just my shirt, I looked naked through his peephole and he opened the door :-) Strange fun guy, he had a lot of bad notices on the old old (Raphael Alencar sponsored?) blacklist site, but I think that was just because he was unique and demanding and British.  He would often threaten to not pay, but that seemed more like just a kink.  I digress.

There is a unique eroticism to hotel encounters: coming through the anonymous public mystery of the lobby, and then through an elevator and hallway to a door to a room, beyond which pleasure waits. It will always work for me, whether the hotel is budget or elegant.

I would take it as a compliment...would only get pissed off if he persisted after I told him "no"

HOW I LEARNED I WAS GAY.
I was 17 years old, and had stopped to use the men's room in the Port Authority bus terminal in Manhattan. Suddenly a note was thrust under the divider from the next stall: "Meet me outside." Curious, I left and was approached outside the men's room by a young man who emerged from the door. He looked to be in his early to mid 20s, and he introduced himself with a name that sounded vaguely foreign, possibly French.  He was cute, slender and a little taller than I was, with dark hair and a tiny mustache. He asked, "Are you gay?" but I didn't know the word except in its normal usage as a term for being happy, so I said yes. When he asked if I would like to go back to his place, I thought,"Why not?" I had never done anything sexual with anyone, but even though I had a steady girlfriend,  I already knew I was attracted to other males. So I went with him to a room he was renting in the East Village.
When he locked the door behind us, he asked, "What are you into?" I told him I didn't know,  so he told me to take off my clothes and get into bed, and he did the same. For the next couple of hours he introduced me to the basic sex acts: sucking and fucking, as both top and bottom. When we were finished and I was getting ready to leave, I said, "Wow! I didn't know these things were possible!" He gave me a puzzled look and said, "But you said you were gay?" I looked confused, as he realized that I didn't understand the term, and he had just initiated a neophyte.

I would take it as a compliment...would only get pissed off if he persisted after I told him "no"

I would take it as a compliment...would only get pissed off if he persisted after I told him "no"

I would take it as a compliment...would only get pissed off if he persisted after I told him "no"

One of the things that has affected people of all ages who are interested in making new friends is the development of social media, like the site on which you raised this topic. More and more people are sitting at home in front of their computers rather than physically interacting in person. Most of the people on this site who I think of as "friends," because I interact with them online regularly and know a lot about their personalities and beliefs, but I don't even know their real names and could walk past them on the street without recognizing them.  I don't want to deny the importance of this kind of friend, but it is not the same as a friend whom I could call to get together for lunch or ask for a ride to the doctor. Going to a movie with a friend and discussing it afterwards is not the same as commenting about it here, although both may be satisfying experiences. When I moved to a strange new place where I knew no one, I found the best way to make new friends was to join groups where I could interact with others who had a similar interest. For my spouse it was volunteering at a place which helped people who were recovering from a stroke, an experience which he could understand. For me it was joining a tennis club and learning how to play a sport which I had never tried before. We all need real friends as much as, or even more than, Internet friends.

I wasn't looking for masseurs.  Craigslist was where I found escorts, though most of them weren't professionals.  Rather they were young guys who escorted occasionally to supplement their day job earnings or student stipends.  Nothing against the people I hire from rent.men these days, but I liked those young guys' innocence, if you can apply that word to a sex worker.  Seeking may be the closest thing these days to the old Craigslist m4m, though Seeking is filled with young men with ridiculous expectations that I never ran into on Craigslist.  

@Ali Gator sometimes the unknown is more attractive and captivating than the known.  Now that it is clear your neighbour would have no qualms meeting up with you, is it possible the attraction may have dimmed on your side?  Or, could it be that you have some reservations and concerns that go beyond the donation amount?  Perhaps the possibility of awkwardness exists for you, and you anticipated he would not be open to the arrangement for similar reasons?  In any case, each of us operates according to our own priorities.  I would have no right to judge your decision either way, even if it is for purely financial considerations.  Maybe it's for the best that you remain platonic neighbours.  There's nothing wrong with that.  And nothing wrong with sharing all that you've shared here.

@Ali Gator  Thanks for the update. I'm glad you two are in contact about it all and that it wasn't awkward. "You do you", as they say, and keep us updated on that fascinating neighborhood of yours!  

This thread feels a little like an 'Old Man Shakes Fist at Kids' kinda headline.
Every generation have their pop icons.  It's the way it's always been, parents understanding be damned.
She seems like a decent human being.  I'm fine with it.
 

Check out Molly Katzen's web site.   I love her original Moosewood Cookbook recipe (which may be on the site; if not, google it) and there is one called something like "Lentil Soup with a Hint of Fruit" on the web site.

How funny - I'm a mash up between Jackie Gleason and Shari Lewis. Minus Lamb Chop, which I ate with some mint sauce.

I see this as two things. First, it probes the arbitrariness of modesty rules: a nipple is biologically the same structure across bodies, yet society assigns different meanings depending on gender identity. Second, that shows the real issue isn’t anatomy, but how cultural systems code some bodies as neutral and others as sexual (and I think that has deepened over generations). As a cis gay man, I notice this in myself too. Society coded male nipples as neutral, yet I’m drawn to them, which makes me realize how much desire and cultural norms interact in complicated ways.
Interesting discussion, Simon.

Seems to me that the "mean girls" here are the ones complaining about people who have opinions they disagree with.
I was called out personally.(Although you misspelled my screen-name@BrickBuilder) 
I am guessing this is a reaction to the recent Sydney Sweeny controversy. For several years now the fashion industry has been going for shock value by featuring fat Victoria Secret models, transexual make up models, and ugly/deformed runway models. This has empowered people in the general population who feel left behind because of their unfortunate looks. Unfortunately the fashion industry has watched their profits plummet as the promotion of "ugly" backfired and the disadvantaged population of empowered people didn't show up to buy their product while the beautiful people left the room in disgust. 
So American Eagle reacts by swinging the pendulum back to where it was. This touches off a mini culture-war about the appropriateness of deifying beautiful people in 2025. It is interesting therefore that @CheckCar simultaneously starts a "mean girl" thread because as he states: he is - "a gay man of a certain age who is often invisible in bars and clubs catering to the gym-bodied under-40 crowd." 
So...since I was called out ..I think it's important for me to contribute MY two-cents in the matter as a counter-point to this idea of the "mean-girl". 
Although it may be an unfortunate reality of life that some of us are born less attractive than others and some of us lose our looks as we age. We all need to accept this as REALITY. You cant change that by PRETENDING that everyone is beautiful. C.o.M is a site where men pursue men who they find attractive. They choose to HIRE men who are MORE attractive than they can likely get without paying them. So the VAST majority of men here are concerned about the GOOD LOOKS of providers. NOBODY is here to take pity on a poor-sad provider struggling to get laid. We are all here to discuss the merits of skilled, good-looking men who can provide a high quality fantasy experience.
So to call-out those of us who may make an opinion about this subject that doesnt follow the "everyone is beautiful" narrative is ridiculous, indeed !! @KensingtonHomo calls me "Regina George", because he's never been able to stand the fact that I have had the privilege of a life where I COULD pick and choose the cream-of-the-crop and NOT need to take what I can get, while pretending that "everyone is beautiful" so I feel better about myself.
It's an interesting subject and although I don't agree with @CheckCar for including me on his mean-girl list. I thank @KensingtonHomo for bringing up the timely topic. 
In summary...I don't feel that its "mean" to make observations about a providers looks and/or performance. I actually think its ridiculous to even suggest such a thing on a site that is totally geared toward these discussions. As far as the rest of the issues about "mean-girl" behavior ..yes we should all treat each other with respect. But I could go back and find multiple snarky comments made to ME over the years simply because someone didn’t agree with my viewpoint. So as I started to say in my response...its not ME who's the mean-girl in those scenarios. 
Some people need to grow up and learn to agree to disagree, and keep the snark to themselves. 

Many of the comments here confuse me. It's like some are talking about a site with which I am unfamiliar.  I agree that providers are often treated unfairly in Daddys Den, especially by guys who never had an intention to hire them. It seems some surf the profiles, looking for guys to criticize.
Otherwise, I think that the other forums generally avoid such meanness and in general we do have a friendly environment here. That's my take.

Getting rid of the politics forum was the most overt way the atmosphere changed - I never saw such nastiness -- no just some downright cruelty -- enacted as I saw there - and it looks like some of the chief nasties who had no real interest in the board crawled back into their dens. Now all we have is some misplaced inappropriate bravado and bits of name-calling it seems.
That change made it possible for the toxicity to become the aberration, not the norm, and we are all better for that.

YMMV but I’m often searched when returning to Canada usually at YUL, and the agents, male or female, have always been sociable and polite through the process. Small sample, obviously. The fun part is when a cute guy looks into the small cloth bag in which I store my Priape douche bulb and a silicone penis I use to insert and ASSess the degree of a job well done.
My left cheek twitches when overtired and a really hot guy from Little Italy making me buckle at the knees asked what was up with that. I just said, blushing, he was making me nervous but that all my luggage and my person was an open book. On my way 30 seconds later, not without some degree of regret. 

I have to agree. I've been reading this forum for a far shorter time than many of our members, but in that time, I've noticed the good and the bad, and we need to live with, and more importantly learn how to react to both. Both in my time as a punter and a moderator (or now with one or other of those hats on) I've seen responses and sadly, withdrawal in the face of negative comments and at times hectoring or even outright bullying. As a moderator I feel compelled to think more closely about negative things that have been said, rather than just thinking, 'Arsehole' and moving on. More often than I thought we had a right to expect, I've seen other members take down bad commenters comprehensively, the better replies with zero reference to anything beyond the content of what had been said, other by challenging motives but not character. That is uplifting.
None of that is to justify bad comments or undisguised contempt for others, or for their intelligence. None of us is perfect, but we can all strive to do better. We all can do better.

I think it does help to have a thick skin. It feels like some people are delighted (looking for it) to be offended. My view is if someone is behaving badly it’s their problem not mine, I’ll ignore them, or if I’m feeling mischievous I’ll wind them up a little bit more, just for general amusement. 
If you’ve engaged in ‘discussions’ on Twitter this place is a kindergarten by comparison. People are generally civil, it’s well moderated and uplifting / informative. 
 

On internet forums like this one, there is an insidious psychology that takes hold. One or two negative voices can easily feel like "the whole forum" is ganging up against you. In most cases, the loudest voices represent the views of a very, very small minority. We must also consider that the written word often loses the tone that the author intended. In person, you may be able to make some comments where you communicate a wry sarcasm through your tone of voice or facial expressions, but online that may come across in a very different way than you intended. Sarcasm is very dangerous in written forums.
This particular forum relies more than most on the anonymity of its users. That anonymity gives us great freedom to discuss things we wouldn't talk about with even our closest friends in real life. But, it also gives an opportunity for "trolls" to misbehave without any repercussions. If you feel attacked, or you're feeling empathy for someone else being attacked here, consider that the opinions of anonymous internet trolls should have absolutely no impact on you. Let it go, don't escalate it.