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Very well put @Monarchy79. This has happened to me once. I’d replied to a polite enquiry from an established poster about a very fit guy I’d dated and it was followed by more specific, detailed questions. I emphasised I’m a top only and he made me very happy, but I stressed YMMV. That poster arranged a date and it didn’t go too well, at one point he said to the guy “you swallowed ML’s loads, why won’t you swallow mine?” It cost me a friendship and it taught me a lesson. I always try to help people here, as I’ve been helped in the past, but now I won’t go into too much detail. I’ve also found that some people don’t trouble to read my thoughtful response; they just want to know “what’s his phone number? what will he do for me?”

And short (I’ve met him too).

I don’t enjoy twinks but thanks for the interesting and detailed report @Karl-G

Just a small comment: the ‘boys’ are all aged 21+, generally in their early 20s; they all work independently as and when they choose; you do pay the manager but you can leave a tip - management is scrupulous about giving all of the tip to the guy.

In Brazil. Introduced by a mutual Brazilian friend, I’ve met him: nice guy, gay-for-pay.

Just read this thread. I agree @Epigonos . I met Matt Damon while staying in the same hotel and he was delightful. He chatted in the elevator one time; he had a room near mine, and he spoke whenever we met afterwards, including at a small gym nearby when just he and I were working out (tho he had 2 guys with him, presumably for security).

@RealAvalon was that with Jeffrey Epstein around? @Unicorn have you seen Andrew lately? He’s really aged badly. And the continuing leakage of info, photos etc about his extensive contacts with Epstein - contradicting his talk of meeting once etc - is not helping.

I understand, and I appreciate the info even tho I’m rarely in Boston. I’ve delighted in hearing JK sing in opera 3x and in recital 5x. But after his last recital with a full orchestra that I attended, I decided “Never again!” The reason was that in a recital that ran from 7.30 to 9.30pm, his singing was for a total of only 21 minutes! The rest of the time was taken up by orchestral pieces, JK coming and going from the stage, a 30minute(!) interval and applause. And of course the tickets were very highly priced. I remember all this very clearly because a week later I attended a recital by Juan Diego Florez (+pianist) who sang from 7.30 to 10.10pm with only a 20 minute interval and several encores. The best tickets for JDF’s recital cost only 60% of what JK charged. I’ve decided that it’s only worth going to listen to JK in recital if it’s with just a pianist. Then he’s rather serious and sings for a full 90 minutes.

My own view, on an individual encounter, is to ask. My experiences in California, NYC, London and Spain suggest that socio-cultural differences are such that the same labels are applied to wildly-differing activities.

Never thought I’d say it but I have to compliment SD on having the ‘street smarts’ and good sense to attach himself to a rich old man. I know of only 1 other guy who did what SD has done; he attached himself to Valentino’s business partner...who in turn was highly embarrassed socially when his handsome young man’s past in BelAmi films became public knowledge. Ageing sex-workers like SD rarely do well. I know of 3 male escorts who were highly acclaimed (and reviewed here) in their day. After retiring from many years of sex-work, each still maintains a very good body. Alas, each now lives a hand-to-mouth existence, earning a small salary from a dull office job. The only exception to this that I’m directly aware of is a male escort who always avoided advertising publicly, took no drugs and never went clubbing. He worked busily for 5 years but saved his money rigorously and invested it in residential property. Sex-work paid for the house he lives in and for the several rental properties that now give him a decent income.

Years ago, I dated a New Zealand muscleboy in London. He had very similar tastes to those mentioned above by @DMICS and @Axiom2001, but he was quite bossy with me at times. With one dinner-date at home, he asked if he could drop to his knees on arrival and - he naked, me fully clothed - suck me off to completion before we ate. I unloaded, he swallowed. After dinner, we went to bed. I’d been out all day wearing some tight white briefs and then worked out in them at the gym. At his request, I’d not showered. He’d asked for it “rough” so with little foreplay I laid him on his back and gave him a good pounding. He was rigid with excitement, burying his face in my stripped-off briefs as I fucked him hard....only to find I’d put on fresh underwear before dinner. He was never such a bossy bottomboy with me again.

His insta is normally uptodate but he hasn’t posted in a week. Last, he was in Toronto where those pics on his profile (of him in a high rise hotel room) were taken.

For us, it’s not showering after sex in the early evening and just putting our clothes back on to go out for dinner, reeking of sexual satisfaction.

IME they exist, and often they readily enjoy their work. But beauty costs so definitely @mcbg22 NOT at “a reasonable price”

Not a lesson I had to learn. I’ve always prized clean bedlinen. And if there are more than 2 men between the sheets, it’s only because I want the attentions of more than 1 man at the same time.

IMO it’s not “mean” to correct politely an untruth. He’s a much older man and as @purplekow suggests “maybe (SD) loves him” but he is not a Prince (ie not royalty) but he has a much less grand title, hence minor aristocrat.

Then I’d urge you to see the production. I don’t think you’ll be disappointed.

I feel this thread has rehashed too much of the history of SD. At the time, both in reviews and in private messages, many clients said they felt they’d been treated as an ATM with some reporting they’d been charged extra when going over the hour by as little as a few minutes. Now he’s retired; not with a Prince but a minor aristocrat, and no castle.

FWIW we saw this in London and enjoyed it very much. Our only disappointment was that we couldn’t get tickets to see it a second time. Also in the UK press it was reported that Mr Sondheim refused another producer who wanted to update it, but was persuaded by Ms Elliott to permit the gender role-change. It said that he became enthusiastic and readily offered to change several songs for the new show.

You’re kidding @marylander1940 In 2003/2004 there were thousands of working guys in Europe, with more than 1000 running adverts in London alone, and I suspect there were many in major US cities. Certainly SD was a very prominent traveling escort. That is so very true. His venom and vitriol were spectacular. SD kept them to private messages for a long time - once he tried to extort me by threatening to ‘out’ me until I pointed out that everyone knew I was gay. Eventually the venom and vitriol spilled out in this forum. He was banned 2x IIRC before he went on to display his true character as IceFireWizard as @ArVaGuy rightly observed. In never meeting SD, I truly feel I dodged a bullet.

Surely if you just want “to lie back and wait”, it depends on you doing exactly what turns you on psychologically and physically ? If that means strapping on a vibrator as in the video or inserting a second vibrator, go for it. Or find a guy who will take charge and do this for and to you. I used to top a blond muscleboy who always came without touching himself: sometimes it was while I was topping him and he was flat on his back; but every time when he was sucking me off, it happened as my cum hit the back of his throat.

Men, please be careful. Like Voldemort in the H Potter books, just mentioning SD so much may bring him back “from the dead”.

@westernsyd I sent you a PM

Assuming that’s not a rhetorical question.... If you have any habits or interests that the law does not condone, the appropriate laws could be invoked.... If you’ve some sex videos on your phone, pornography laws would apply... If you’ve been exchanging messages re a date with an escort, you could be charged with soliciting prostitution

I take issue with this. You’re making contact; the other man is not objecting. You’re assuming that silence equals consent. I think that others are right and this will end badly for you.