DrownedBoy

Hey, for anyone who has any experience here:

I'm thinking on going on a vacation and inviting a professional to accompany me and see the sites during the day, and have fun at nights. What would I expect to pay for a week?

Assume I'm covering all hotel, travel, and food options, and it's a decent hotel.

"Have your way with me" is a standard, if old fashioned, euphemism.

Weird. He spoke English fine...

When I get a request for a photo for a provider, I just give my age/height/weight.

Some providers ask for my race as well. The last time that happened, I gave it, then stopped responding to any of his future texts.

Blackmail is the bigger risk factor. I knew a couple of escorts who had a brief legal problem, but I've known more participants here who have faced attempted extortion. Don't be so trusty and chatty with people you don't know.

Any examples you're comfortable giving? Again, blackmail exposes both sides.

Whether you like it or not, the standard practice is to ask him for his rate for time.

 

This is not a flea market: Never forget you're dealing with human beings.

 

Treat those as you wish to be treated.

Are you saying that even if I offer someone's usual rate, it will be considered offensive?

Hey, another etiquette question for providers.

I don’t like to waste time texting, and like to get directly to the point. My initial text usually includes a short greeting, a name, a general location, and a general description of what I'm into (which I have to elaborate on later since it's role playing).

Is it useful to also make a donation offer when you introduce yourself?

I guess this is a reminder that while a provider might have a good body, he might not have a decent brain to go with it.

I wonder how many 22 yr olds can afford to live in an expensive gay urban neighborhood and hire escorts. When I was that age I had to nurse one beer through an evening at a bar.

When I was 22, I wasn't wealthy, but I had a useful college diploma and an apartment to myself, which is more than could be said of many other young gay men in the area. I got hit on by hot guys who wouldn't normally give me the time of day, but needed somewhere to crash, as well as by some of the lower-class escorts.

I never took advantage of having a live-in. It seemed tasteless, I was dating, and would have lowered the community's opinion of me. But it would have given me a free outlet for the fetishes my boyfriends couldn't provide. I regret that now.

Youth....

I like twinks so I really enjoyed this guy

https://rent.men/RealNicTwink

Even Pre pandemic, escorts would send unsolicited RM messages. I view it more as marketing...didn’t know this was a new thing.

In 6 years, maybe 3 escorts emailed me via RM, unsolicited. Now I get that many RM messages in single browsing session without even reaching out to anyone. It is a very new thing from my perspective.

I'm not hiring now, but it's worth a monograph.

Second data point. In morning, looking at ads for a city I might visit. Also got unsolicited RM messages just for browsing.

I found a hot guy in Florida on Best Flex, but he's strictly no kissing. Darn straights.

That's a problem everywhere. I only met one bodybuilder who kissed really well (he was gay, but is no longer escorting). Most bodybuilders are straight so won't kiss.

My first thought is to get my attorney involved if even partial identifying information was posted about me. It may seem like a double standard, but providers voluntarily post their information. Clients may have numerous reasons to be anonymous.

It is a double standard. If you can sue escorts for rating you, they can sue you for, say, a Daddys Review that includes their phone number.

Of course, no lawyer can make a legitimate complaint or threat without opening their client up to prostitution charges. Attorneys have no power here.

On the one hand, if I'm on RM late at night, I do get people contacting me and offering deals. However, there's a lot fewer available, and not hot enough that I'd hire.

After that meeting with my regular, I'm good for another 2 months. I'll deal with it the same way I did with the previous months. As a high class Italian courtesan once told a famous French philosopher:

"Gianetto, lascia le donne, e studia matematica."

I was wondering - does anyone know a case where someone was arrested for meeting after seeing each other on Rentmen.com?

I mean, you're cruising profiles at 2 am, having quick chats with escorts who are instantly willing to discount.

 

While highly empirical, this is all qualitative: The unique conditions say more about the response you're getting than it being the new statistical norm. It would take a broader spectrum of contact/responses in a wider variety of cities to make me think it's something more.

Correct - I'll add that there were much fewer providers online than pre-Covid (none that I'd hire).

But I never tried "chatting them up" (nor did I reply to their messages). They just RMd me directly after I looked at their site. I didn't ask for a discount; someone just offered one out of the blue.

And to make clear - I never had luck using RM Messenger before, because none of the escorts seemed to use it. However, now escorts are using it to reach out to me, unsolicited. That in itself is a change.

And yes Benjamin - that's why this is called a "data point." Keep collecting data.

I wouldn't say I "disagree" with you per se, but my perspective is different than yours. My understanding is "verified by meeting" means someone from the Friendboy staff met the escort. Also, the ability to comment is relatively new.

No, the one time I used Friendboy, clients can leave a comment for a provider. Once that happens, the user is marked clearly as "verified by meeting."

* BUMP*

Has anyone dealt with BelAmiStallion (https://friendboy.pro/boys/BelAmiStallion)? He 's always almost marked available.

One thing - he is not "verified my meeting" because nobody gave his comments. And he's been up there almost a year?

This seems like a red light to me. Anyone disagree?

Well right now, I just glanced through a few RentMen profiles, and 2 of the people I viewed immediately RMed if I was looking to hire.

I never before had that type of response from Chicago providers. I think it's a good economic data point.

EDIT Make that 3. Some guy just reached out and offered a 25% discount special. Too bad he has facial hair. Wish more than a handful of Chicago escorts were "Available."

I just had a long session with one of my cheaper regulars. I'm good for another month. Next time I'll hire my most muscular regular.

Have you tried the best flex website

They have bodybuilders and models who offer meetups

 

https://www.thebestflex.com/meetup

Ouch - only 3 bodybuilders in Illinois, and they're not much to look at.

Guess I'll be traveling more. Still, you'd think Chicago would have more. Maybe I need to wait for the plague to lift.

Once when I was staying at a hotel in a large downtown, workers vetted everyone who came in. I had to go down, meet the provider, and flash my hotel keycard to get back up on the elevator.

That's the only hotel stay where that happened to me. It wasn't fancy either (I think it was a Holiday Inn).

Here's my prediction. Right after Covid lifts, rates will stay stable for a month or so. That's people who can't control their libido. Afterwards, there will be more escorts but prices will stop dropping, because too many clients have less income or worry about their jobs in a recession.

I never understood why some people can't resist their libido, that they can't just walk away from a deal. That's probably the best thing a mature client can have.