DrownedBoy

I'm sure he's good, but I don't do 350 an hour.

I understand that the client has no obligation to get a paid provider off, but if you make the decision to get him off, that's your choice. If he liked it that much, it's his choice on what to say or do.

Tell me about it. Some people on this forum act like everyone with money is some spoiled rich guy with a trust fund. I come from a working class family and neighborhood. I won a great scholarship. Now I make good money. I worked very hard to get this far in life, and I'll be d@mned if I'll allow someone to shame me for how I use my hard earned income.

So it turned out! I Googled the word "bracero" and ended up with links to a lot of porn involving said workers. I should have guessed. Either way, based on that study, it is a fantasy.

I think that's a little unfair. It's also wrong - I've seen with my own eyes that day laborers have absolutely no problem sleeping with older white women for little to no money. I understand the whole machismo culture thing, but I don't think there's any place for it here. All providers need the money. Let's not get into exploitation. Everyone who hires a day laborer, even to mow their lawn, is exploiting them according to that logic. So is anyone who hires a provider for sex. This whole idea that somehow "sex work" is more exploitive stems from sexual attitudes that belong to the Victorian Era. Unfortunately, with Hispanic lay laborers, as that study indicated, gay sex work is still taboo (not that I'd pay them for anal sex; I'd pay them to beat the crap out of me; try calling that exploitation). But because of that machismo attitude, it's probably best to first see if any of them are on Grindr. That's a free way for them to "put themselves on the market," and allows a quick way to verify which workers are willing.

That study isn't good. According to this, there's only a 9.4% chance that a propositioned day laborer is going to put out. Not good odds. As for everyone who used the word "exploitation"....😂 Do you have any idea of the backgrounds of the Latino escorts you hire? Do you have any experience in the landscaping industry? You guys have no idea...

Do you recall his rates?

I couldn't find anything during the search on CoM but I recall reading a research study. However, the study was only based on interviews

Anyone here who lives in a larger city, especially in California, is familiar with how immigrants often congregate at Home Depot, etc., to get paid day labor. I've read (and assumed) that they are sometimes solicitated by gay men. Has anyone ever done this? I understand both men and women have done this, although women are sometimes hit on by the laborers.

For anyone who's been to PV: What's the best way to pick up rent boys without using an escort app? Like bars or Grindr language. I'm assuming the Spanish is useful to see what they're willing to do.

Agree. I just can't stand hypocrisy and bullsh!t. Your kept boy is not in love with you. I have nothing against SBs, but I wouldn't slap the relationship label on it. I wouldn't even mind if they stayed in their relationship. To me, a SB is just an escort you paid to always be ready for right now. Preferably to be tag teamed by the SD and his real (not bought) partner.

That applies even more during the session.

It's just technology making it easier. I admit when I was muuuch younger, I got somewhat of a thrill telling off people who hit on me, but were too old or fat. Like that guy in the article, an adolescence of bullying followed by jumping out of the closet will give anyone a big head. But you should outgrow it by 30....which many gay men don't.

I hate to say it, but many gays take advantage of the homeless, historically and currently. If you ever talk to homeless people, ask them how they feel about the LGBT community. You will likely not get a good answer. In LA (and hopefully most other cities), the cops know the story. An older gay man calls because some homeless kid is causing trouble and won't leave. The old man always says he was just trying to "help the kid out," and the cop always writes it up as a domestic.

That's the nice thing about male actors. Attractive, probably gay, but broke.

Text is pretty much the only choice. Most providers won't accept an appointment without one. FYI your texts are more secure than anything you type on RM Messenger. My advice is to always use euphemisms when setting a payment up. Under no circumstances type something that outright says, "I'll pay you for sex."

@keroscenefire is correct. I bet a lot of clients here have hired homeless people without knowing, although the definition differs. I've had escorts that I later learned were either perpetually couch crashing or living in a flophouse extended stay place. Likewise, the refugee I wanted to hire got moved to a different shelter, and constantly lost WiFi. If they try to hide it, let them. I agree with those who say not to give them money. But do give them a shower and some way to brush their teeth. You're much more likely to pick up the homeless on Grindr. But as we've been warned, desperation, disease, and possible mental illnesses can be a problem.

Immensely He kinda figured out I was into rough stuff during the session. EDIT and after he pinned me down, it started with me telling him I'd do anything he wanted. So I only did what he said because I was comfortable doing so. He just liked the rp too.

Nice guy. When that happened to me once, he just pinned me down, said my session was over, and now he was going to do what he wanted.

There's a thread here where a provider was cruised by Peter Pan on a Disney cruise.

Yeah let us know how interactive he is. Best Flex guys usually aren't.

Yes, but also - that's not something an escort would advertise, in case of the "I am going to be a regular" cheapskates. One reason some regulars, even those who locked my price in, are leaving it is because I'm not worried about anal, etc., and just smacking a person around isn't a hard or even necessarily an unpleasant experience. Escorts may offer discounts, but they keep it between themselves and select clients. That's why I don't name names here.

I once discussed Galois numbers with an escort....b😄 I still haven't figured out why sex and mathematics are often paired. Pascal gave up both sex and mathematics when he converted Rousseau was so awkward with a high-class courtesan that she told him to give up the ladies and study mathematics My high school calculus teacher once said solving an integral was better than sex. We gave him a dirty magazine with an integral equation scribbled across the centerfold.

Ask first. Some providers will do videos or photos for free. However, I don't take porn-level photos, so that might cost.

Yeah, because guys on Grindr are so much nicer....