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    + haring222 got a reaction from + FrankR in What are some ways to gain more regulars?   
    I'll toss in my two cents. For background, I was a relatively successful escort in the late 90s while in college (averaging 6.2 meetings per week at a minimum of $200 per, which was high back then) and now have my own business, where I am the fellow that often brings in the new business.
     
    If the problem is not enough inquiries to begin with, you need to change up the way you are marketing yourself. I did not look at your adverts, but things like new pictures or a different approach to your verbiage might be in order. A lot of clients do some research, so try to cross pollinate your approach...you should try to have a social media presence on twitter that makes you seem interesting and hints at your personality. Theres also the dynamic of bringing to the market something fresh or unique....if your market is lacking in some arena put on the persona that will fill it. Universally, presenting an up-beat attitude about how much you love what you do and how much goodness you bring to the table will get people interested.
     
    Not to come across as a judgement, it would be better if your communications on here really made you seem sincere and nice and were not at all polarizing. Right now they are going a little bit, well, not friendly and expressing whatever you feel to other members won't help you to snag new clients when they go poking around on here.
     
    If the problem is client retention, I had a method that worked beautifully and took just a bit of extra work. I kept copious notes about the interactions I had with potential clients before they booked me and made even more intense notes about the experience directly after the session. If they mentioned they were in town for a gasket convention, I'd put a note in my day-planner (this was the 90s) to follow up with the fellow about a month before the convention the following year. You'd be shocked at how well that worked and how regularly many people travel. Same with pilots...this was before texting, but I had 7 or 8 pilots that knew they could send me a day and a flight number and I'd keep an eye on the airline timetable and be discretely waiting int he hotel lobby when they got there....they did not even have to think about it. Every client got their own unique number so they would get linked back into my notes....and every single detail about what we talked about / did sexually / any personal info went into it along with the anything I could glean about them. How much they paid, if they tipped, preferred lube...I wrote it all down. If I wanted to pursue them, I'd try to find a way to weave my way back into their lives. This was also back in the days of the aol chatrooms, so it was relatively easy to see them online and send a DM about whatever...ie, 'it was so awesome to meet you last month. I can't stop thinking about using the purple dildo on you while you sang the national anthem; that was so incredibly hot'. If it was actually someone that I enjoyed meeting or within easy proximity I'd also give them a 10 or 20% discount, banking that the'd likely tip me and it would all even out.
     
    Over the 4 years I had maybe 1200 different clients and the notes I kept about them filled 6 moleskin notebooks and a couple of excel spreadsheets to be able to cross reference people. Even to this day I can flip into them and instantly know who almost all of these guys were, which is sort of fun. If my reaching out to them led to another session (or they reached back out to me at a later date) I could totally know exactly what they were looking for and it made the likelihood of them flaking drop to nearly zero....as they would be impressed that I could 'remember' all of these details and must have had such a personal connection.
     
    One of my best clients was this mildly creepy older fellow who I could tell was sad. I went to his single family house in a posh city neighborhood and managed to see a funeral card sitting out on his nightstand from (what I assumed was) his wife dying 10 months prior. I did my thing sexually but also rubbed his back and chatted a bit about how great his old stone house was....and noticed he had a bag of those nasty werthers originals on his hall table when I left. I sent him a follow up email the next day (you should always do that, and always mention something nice that you connected with (even if you have to make it up...and it can never ever seem like a form note) which did not get returned....I had a feeling that whatever we did was probably fun for the moment, but may have made him even more sad after. Five or six weeks later I dropped a bag of those candies into his mail slot with a totally non incriminating PG note from me that said I had taken one without asking and wanted to replenish his stockpile and reiterated how much I enjoyed our conversation and also sent a email letting him know there was a little something that I left, allowing my contact info to be fresh in his inbox.. I knew that that would probably hit him at a vulnerable time and it would get me a repeat visit, which it totally did.
     
    We never did talk about really anything at all in his personal life but he turned into an awesome 4 year client and it only ended when he finally decided to move away...and the last time I saw him he gave me this hand-knotted rug that I had complimented early on in knowing him, so he was obviously paying attention. I still keep it in my dressing room and think of him each time I go in there.
     
    I think I identified 7 or 8 people during my time that I wanted as long term people and managed to turn 4 of them into real money makers.
     
    I was also never a clock watcher, within reason, once you got me there you had me. My thought was that the actual time spent was a lot smaller than the time I spent in dealing with inquiries and travel time....so what's another 30 or 60 minutes if it leads to consistent work. I'd always sort of read the room, let the guy know that the sessions started when clothes came off, hang out and chat or whatever until they were comfy and really ready to go. And the post fucking cuddle time is super important to some folks, so just hanging out in bed after its all done can be a really pleasing memory for the fellow to have of you. I did have one fellow who I saw weekly that wanted to and was able to bottom for over an hour and seemed to have limitless stamina. It was impressive, as my penis is on the larger side. So I learned that at about the 50 minute mark I'd totally fake an orgasm (the entire pulsing dick / pretending that I just couldn't hold it back) and I'd sort of keep myself in him and pant for a minute....and follow up with 'Man, I can't believe you ass took me over the edge like that, lets get you off before my dick goes down' and he would happily beat himself off with no help from me. He never did seem to realize this was an act and told me on many occasions that I was the only guy who had ever satisfied him.
     
    The other key is marketing 101....one callback is great, but if you can get someone to see you for a third time, you're part of their 'routine' and it's almost a sure bet they will keep calling you....and the more that you can personalize your services the more likely it is it will lead to good things. That said, emotionally for an escort repeat clients can have their own issues. I had several that I just did not like and having sex with them was a completely not enjoyable experience.
     
    I keep thinking I should write some sort of escort advice blog or something. I really did approach is as a career when I did it. I was not by any means the hottest guy around or the best in bed, but my attention to detail and working out a good method to it all really helped me to find success.
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    + haring222 got a reaction from + MysticMenace in What are some ways to gain more regulars?   
    I'll toss in my two cents. For background, I was a relatively successful escort in the late 90s while in college (averaging 6.2 meetings per week at a minimum of $200 per, which was high back then) and now have my own business, where I am the fellow that often brings in the new business.
     
    If the problem is not enough inquiries to begin with, you need to change up the way you are marketing yourself. I did not look at your adverts, but things like new pictures or a different approach to your verbiage might be in order. A lot of clients do some research, so try to cross pollinate your approach...you should try to have a social media presence on twitter that makes you seem interesting and hints at your personality. Theres also the dynamic of bringing to the market something fresh or unique....if your market is lacking in some arena put on the persona that will fill it. Universally, presenting an up-beat attitude about how much you love what you do and how much goodness you bring to the table will get people interested.
     
    Not to come across as a judgement, it would be better if your communications on here really made you seem sincere and nice and were not at all polarizing. Right now they are going a little bit, well, not friendly and expressing whatever you feel to other members won't help you to snag new clients when they go poking around on here.
     
    If the problem is client retention, I had a method that worked beautifully and took just a bit of extra work. I kept copious notes about the interactions I had with potential clients before they booked me and made even more intense notes about the experience directly after the session. If they mentioned they were in town for a gasket convention, I'd put a note in my day-planner (this was the 90s) to follow up with the fellow about a month before the convention the following year. You'd be shocked at how well that worked and how regularly many people travel. Same with pilots...this was before texting, but I had 7 or 8 pilots that knew they could send me a day and a flight number and I'd keep an eye on the airline timetable and be discretely waiting int he hotel lobby when they got there....they did not even have to think about it. Every client got their own unique number so they would get linked back into my notes....and every single detail about what we talked about / did sexually / any personal info went into it along with the anything I could glean about them. How much they paid, if they tipped, preferred lube...I wrote it all down. If I wanted to pursue them, I'd try to find a way to weave my way back into their lives. This was also back in the days of the aol chatrooms, so it was relatively easy to see them online and send a DM about whatever...ie, 'it was so awesome to meet you last month. I can't stop thinking about using the purple dildo on you while you sang the national anthem; that was so incredibly hot'. If it was actually someone that I enjoyed meeting or within easy proximity I'd also give them a 10 or 20% discount, banking that the'd likely tip me and it would all even out.
     
    Over the 4 years I had maybe 1200 different clients and the notes I kept about them filled 6 moleskin notebooks and a couple of excel spreadsheets to be able to cross reference people. Even to this day I can flip into them and instantly know who almost all of these guys were, which is sort of fun. If my reaching out to them led to another session (or they reached back out to me at a later date) I could totally know exactly what they were looking for and it made the likelihood of them flaking drop to nearly zero....as they would be impressed that I could 'remember' all of these details and must have had such a personal connection.
     
    One of my best clients was this mildly creepy older fellow who I could tell was sad. I went to his single family house in a posh city neighborhood and managed to see a funeral card sitting out on his nightstand from (what I assumed was) his wife dying 10 months prior. I did my thing sexually but also rubbed his back and chatted a bit about how great his old stone house was....and noticed he had a bag of those nasty werthers originals on his hall table when I left. I sent him a follow up email the next day (you should always do that, and always mention something nice that you connected with (even if you have to make it up...and it can never ever seem like a form note) which did not get returned....I had a feeling that whatever we did was probably fun for the moment, but may have made him even more sad after. Five or six weeks later I dropped a bag of those candies into his mail slot with a totally non incriminating PG note from me that said I had taken one without asking and wanted to replenish his stockpile and reiterated how much I enjoyed our conversation and also sent a email letting him know there was a little something that I left, allowing my contact info to be fresh in his inbox.. I knew that that would probably hit him at a vulnerable time and it would get me a repeat visit, which it totally did.
     
    We never did talk about really anything at all in his personal life but he turned into an awesome 4 year client and it only ended when he finally decided to move away...and the last time I saw him he gave me this hand-knotted rug that I had complimented early on in knowing him, so he was obviously paying attention. I still keep it in my dressing room and think of him each time I go in there.
     
    I think I identified 7 or 8 people during my time that I wanted as long term people and managed to turn 4 of them into real money makers.
     
    I was also never a clock watcher, within reason, once you got me there you had me. My thought was that the actual time spent was a lot smaller than the time I spent in dealing with inquiries and travel time....so what's another 30 or 60 minutes if it leads to consistent work. I'd always sort of read the room, let the guy know that the sessions started when clothes came off, hang out and chat or whatever until they were comfy and really ready to go. And the post fucking cuddle time is super important to some folks, so just hanging out in bed after its all done can be a really pleasing memory for the fellow to have of you. I did have one fellow who I saw weekly that wanted to and was able to bottom for over an hour and seemed to have limitless stamina. It was impressive, as my penis is on the larger side. So I learned that at about the 50 minute mark I'd totally fake an orgasm (the entire pulsing dick / pretending that I just couldn't hold it back) and I'd sort of keep myself in him and pant for a minute....and follow up with 'Man, I can't believe you ass took me over the edge like that, lets get you off before my dick goes down' and he would happily beat himself off with no help from me. He never did seem to realize this was an act and told me on many occasions that I was the only guy who had ever satisfied him.
     
    The other key is marketing 101....one callback is great, but if you can get someone to see you for a third time, you're part of their 'routine' and it's almost a sure bet they will keep calling you....and the more that you can personalize your services the more likely it is it will lead to good things. That said, emotionally for an escort repeat clients can have their own issues. I had several that I just did not like and having sex with them was a completely not enjoyable experience.
     
    I keep thinking I should write some sort of escort advice blog or something. I really did approach is as a career when I did it. I was not by any means the hottest guy around or the best in bed, but my attention to detail and working out a good method to it all really helped me to find success.
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    + haring222 got a reaction from + Pensant in What are some ways to gain more regulars?   
    I'll toss in my two cents. For background, I was a relatively successful escort in the late 90s while in college (averaging 6.2 meetings per week at a minimum of $200 per, which was high back then) and now have my own business, where I am the fellow that often brings in the new business.
     
    If the problem is not enough inquiries to begin with, you need to change up the way you are marketing yourself. I did not look at your adverts, but things like new pictures or a different approach to your verbiage might be in order. A lot of clients do some research, so try to cross pollinate your approach...you should try to have a social media presence on twitter that makes you seem interesting and hints at your personality. Theres also the dynamic of bringing to the market something fresh or unique....if your market is lacking in some arena put on the persona that will fill it. Universally, presenting an up-beat attitude about how much you love what you do and how much goodness you bring to the table will get people interested.
     
    Not to come across as a judgement, it would be better if your communications on here really made you seem sincere and nice and were not at all polarizing. Right now they are going a little bit, well, not friendly and expressing whatever you feel to other members won't help you to snag new clients when they go poking around on here.
     
    If the problem is client retention, I had a method that worked beautifully and took just a bit of extra work. I kept copious notes about the interactions I had with potential clients before they booked me and made even more intense notes about the experience directly after the session. If they mentioned they were in town for a gasket convention, I'd put a note in my day-planner (this was the 90s) to follow up with the fellow about a month before the convention the following year. You'd be shocked at how well that worked and how regularly many people travel. Same with pilots...this was before texting, but I had 7 or 8 pilots that knew they could send me a day and a flight number and I'd keep an eye on the airline timetable and be discretely waiting int he hotel lobby when they got there....they did not even have to think about it. Every client got their own unique number so they would get linked back into my notes....and every single detail about what we talked about / did sexually / any personal info went into it along with the anything I could glean about them. How much they paid, if they tipped, preferred lube...I wrote it all down. If I wanted to pursue them, I'd try to find a way to weave my way back into their lives. This was also back in the days of the aol chatrooms, so it was relatively easy to see them online and send a DM about whatever...ie, 'it was so awesome to meet you last month. I can't stop thinking about using the purple dildo on you while you sang the national anthem; that was so incredibly hot'. If it was actually someone that I enjoyed meeting or within easy proximity I'd also give them a 10 or 20% discount, banking that the'd likely tip me and it would all even out.
     
    Over the 4 years I had maybe 1200 different clients and the notes I kept about them filled 6 moleskin notebooks and a couple of excel spreadsheets to be able to cross reference people. Even to this day I can flip into them and instantly know who almost all of these guys were, which is sort of fun. If my reaching out to them led to another session (or they reached back out to me at a later date) I could totally know exactly what they were looking for and it made the likelihood of them flaking drop to nearly zero....as they would be impressed that I could 'remember' all of these details and must have had such a personal connection.
     
    One of my best clients was this mildly creepy older fellow who I could tell was sad. I went to his single family house in a posh city neighborhood and managed to see a funeral card sitting out on his nightstand from (what I assumed was) his wife dying 10 months prior. I did my thing sexually but also rubbed his back and chatted a bit about how great his old stone house was....and noticed he had a bag of those nasty werthers originals on his hall table when I left. I sent him a follow up email the next day (you should always do that, and always mention something nice that you connected with (even if you have to make it up...and it can never ever seem like a form note) which did not get returned....I had a feeling that whatever we did was probably fun for the moment, but may have made him even more sad after. Five or six weeks later I dropped a bag of those candies into his mail slot with a totally non incriminating PG note from me that said I had taken one without asking and wanted to replenish his stockpile and reiterated how much I enjoyed our conversation and also sent a email letting him know there was a little something that I left, allowing my contact info to be fresh in his inbox.. I knew that that would probably hit him at a vulnerable time and it would get me a repeat visit, which it totally did.
     
    We never did talk about really anything at all in his personal life but he turned into an awesome 4 year client and it only ended when he finally decided to move away...and the last time I saw him he gave me this hand-knotted rug that I had complimented early on in knowing him, so he was obviously paying attention. I still keep it in my dressing room and think of him each time I go in there.
     
    I think I identified 7 or 8 people during my time that I wanted as long term people and managed to turn 4 of them into real money makers.
     
    I was also never a clock watcher, within reason, once you got me there you had me. My thought was that the actual time spent was a lot smaller than the time I spent in dealing with inquiries and travel time....so what's another 30 or 60 minutes if it leads to consistent work. I'd always sort of read the room, let the guy know that the sessions started when clothes came off, hang out and chat or whatever until they were comfy and really ready to go. And the post fucking cuddle time is super important to some folks, so just hanging out in bed after its all done can be a really pleasing memory for the fellow to have of you. I did have one fellow who I saw weekly that wanted to and was able to bottom for over an hour and seemed to have limitless stamina. It was impressive, as my penis is on the larger side. So I learned that at about the 50 minute mark I'd totally fake an orgasm (the entire pulsing dick / pretending that I just couldn't hold it back) and I'd sort of keep myself in him and pant for a minute....and follow up with 'Man, I can't believe you ass took me over the edge like that, lets get you off before my dick goes down' and he would happily beat himself off with no help from me. He never did seem to realize this was an act and told me on many occasions that I was the only guy who had ever satisfied him.
     
    The other key is marketing 101....one callback is great, but if you can get someone to see you for a third time, you're part of their 'routine' and it's almost a sure bet they will keep calling you....and the more that you can personalize your services the more likely it is it will lead to good things. That said, emotionally for an escort repeat clients can have their own issues. I had several that I just did not like and having sex with them was a completely not enjoyable experience.
     
    I keep thinking I should write some sort of escort advice blog or something. I really did approach is as a career when I did it. I was not by any means the hottest guy around or the best in bed, but my attention to detail and working out a good method to it all really helped me to find success.
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    + haring222 got a reaction from + DERRIK in What are some ways to gain more regulars?   
    I'll toss in my two cents. For background, I was a relatively successful escort in the late 90s while in college (averaging 6.2 meetings per week at a minimum of $200 per, which was high back then) and now have my own business, where I am the fellow that often brings in the new business.
     
    If the problem is not enough inquiries to begin with, you need to change up the way you are marketing yourself. I did not look at your adverts, but things like new pictures or a different approach to your verbiage might be in order. A lot of clients do some research, so try to cross pollinate your approach...you should try to have a social media presence on twitter that makes you seem interesting and hints at your personality. Theres also the dynamic of bringing to the market something fresh or unique....if your market is lacking in some arena put on the persona that will fill it. Universally, presenting an up-beat attitude about how much you love what you do and how much goodness you bring to the table will get people interested.
     
    Not to come across as a judgement, it would be better if your communications on here really made you seem sincere and nice and were not at all polarizing. Right now they are going a little bit, well, not friendly and expressing whatever you feel to other members won't help you to snag new clients when they go poking around on here.
     
    If the problem is client retention, I had a method that worked beautifully and took just a bit of extra work. I kept copious notes about the interactions I had with potential clients before they booked me and made even more intense notes about the experience directly after the session. If they mentioned they were in town for a gasket convention, I'd put a note in my day-planner (this was the 90s) to follow up with the fellow about a month before the convention the following year. You'd be shocked at how well that worked and how regularly many people travel. Same with pilots...this was before texting, but I had 7 or 8 pilots that knew they could send me a day and a flight number and I'd keep an eye on the airline timetable and be discretely waiting int he hotel lobby when they got there....they did not even have to think about it. Every client got their own unique number so they would get linked back into my notes....and every single detail about what we talked about / did sexually / any personal info went into it along with the anything I could glean about them. How much they paid, if they tipped, preferred lube...I wrote it all down. If I wanted to pursue them, I'd try to find a way to weave my way back into their lives. This was also back in the days of the aol chatrooms, so it was relatively easy to see them online and send a DM about whatever...ie, 'it was so awesome to meet you last month. I can't stop thinking about using the purple dildo on you while you sang the national anthem; that was so incredibly hot'. If it was actually someone that I enjoyed meeting or within easy proximity I'd also give them a 10 or 20% discount, banking that the'd likely tip me and it would all even out.
     
    Over the 4 years I had maybe 1200 different clients and the notes I kept about them filled 6 moleskin notebooks and a couple of excel spreadsheets to be able to cross reference people. Even to this day I can flip into them and instantly know who almost all of these guys were, which is sort of fun. If my reaching out to them led to another session (or they reached back out to me at a later date) I could totally know exactly what they were looking for and it made the likelihood of them flaking drop to nearly zero....as they would be impressed that I could 'remember' all of these details and must have had such a personal connection.
     
    One of my best clients was this mildly creepy older fellow who I could tell was sad. I went to his single family house in a posh city neighborhood and managed to see a funeral card sitting out on his nightstand from (what I assumed was) his wife dying 10 months prior. I did my thing sexually but also rubbed his back and chatted a bit about how great his old stone house was....and noticed he had a bag of those nasty werthers originals on his hall table when I left. I sent him a follow up email the next day (you should always do that, and always mention something nice that you connected with (even if you have to make it up...and it can never ever seem like a form note) which did not get returned....I had a feeling that whatever we did was probably fun for the moment, but may have made him even more sad after. Five or six weeks later I dropped a bag of those candies into his mail slot with a totally non incriminating PG note from me that said I had taken one without asking and wanted to replenish his stockpile and reiterated how much I enjoyed our conversation and also sent a email letting him know there was a little something that I left, allowing my contact info to be fresh in his inbox.. I knew that that would probably hit him at a vulnerable time and it would get me a repeat visit, which it totally did.
     
    We never did talk about really anything at all in his personal life but he turned into an awesome 4 year client and it only ended when he finally decided to move away...and the last time I saw him he gave me this hand-knotted rug that I had complimented early on in knowing him, so he was obviously paying attention. I still keep it in my dressing room and think of him each time I go in there.
     
    I think I identified 7 or 8 people during my time that I wanted as long term people and managed to turn 4 of them into real money makers.
     
    I was also never a clock watcher, within reason, once you got me there you had me. My thought was that the actual time spent was a lot smaller than the time I spent in dealing with inquiries and travel time....so what's another 30 or 60 minutes if it leads to consistent work. I'd always sort of read the room, let the guy know that the sessions started when clothes came off, hang out and chat or whatever until they were comfy and really ready to go. And the post fucking cuddle time is super important to some folks, so just hanging out in bed after its all done can be a really pleasing memory for the fellow to have of you. I did have one fellow who I saw weekly that wanted to and was able to bottom for over an hour and seemed to have limitless stamina. It was impressive, as my penis is on the larger side. So I learned that at about the 50 minute mark I'd totally fake an orgasm (the entire pulsing dick / pretending that I just couldn't hold it back) and I'd sort of keep myself in him and pant for a minute....and follow up with 'Man, I can't believe you ass took me over the edge like that, lets get you off before my dick goes down' and he would happily beat himself off with no help from me. He never did seem to realize this was an act and told me on many occasions that I was the only guy who had ever satisfied him.
     
    The other key is marketing 101....one callback is great, but if you can get someone to see you for a third time, you're part of their 'routine' and it's almost a sure bet they will keep calling you....and the more that you can personalize your services the more likely it is it will lead to good things. That said, emotionally for an escort repeat clients can have their own issues. I had several that I just did not like and having sex with them was a completely not enjoyable experience.
     
    I keep thinking I should write some sort of escort advice blog or something. I really did approach is as a career when I did it. I was not by any means the hottest guy around or the best in bed, but my attention to detail and working out a good method to it all really helped me to find success.
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    + haring222 got a reaction from Bargara Leatherboy in Airbnb aimed towards escorts / masseurs.   
    Hello fellows.
    Question.
     
    I was an old pro at the airbnb game (like, hosted three different listings for years and years in an awesome flat...heres an old ad https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/1141045?s=67&unique_share_id=99104310-d8ba-4f68-a4fd-d667642c1e28 ) until late last year when I decided sort of abruptly to simplify life and move out of my mess. I was also as escort in the late 90s and early 2000s and find everything to do with escorts and the industry to be fascinating.
     
    I am returning to the gay neighborhood to an awesomely located apartment and I am debating putting the second bedroom on airbnb post pandemic and after my renovation wraps up. I will admit that my life has become a bit boring and I need some distractions.
     
    Here is the question...#1, if I fitted this out and offered up access to amenities that massage industry folks might appreciate (I could keep some bottles of massage stuff on hand along with a table and linens and structure the living room to work nicely for it to happen) do you think traveling guys might be interested. #2, would the fact that it is a shared space weird providers out (though I'd sort of be in the back of the flat and would not be present when they are entertaining and likely often be at my weekend house and invisible to their clients). #3, I could market it towards escorts and tacitly turn a blind eye to whatever they might do in their bedrooms and make sure to have a firm bed frame and extra sheets.
    TBH, I miss hosting but not the full time work involved and would love to get to meet industry guys and support their ability to bring joy to the world. I'm also a super big pervert in a harmless way, so this would all really be fun to be around. I had a couple of guys who rented my stand alone airbnb (Gabriel Cross was there several times) and it was totally fun to be industry adjacent.
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    + haring222 got a reaction from inthepit3 in What are some ways to gain more regulars?   
    I'll toss in my two cents. For background, I was a relatively successful escort in the late 90s while in college (averaging 6.2 meetings per week at a minimum of $200 per, which was high back then) and now have my own business, where I am the fellow that often brings in the new business.
     
    If the problem is not enough inquiries to begin with, you need to change up the way you are marketing yourself. I did not look at your adverts, but things like new pictures or a different approach to your verbiage might be in order. A lot of clients do some research, so try to cross pollinate your approach...you should try to have a social media presence on twitter that makes you seem interesting and hints at your personality. Theres also the dynamic of bringing to the market something fresh or unique....if your market is lacking in some arena put on the persona that will fill it. Universally, presenting an up-beat attitude about how much you love what you do and how much goodness you bring to the table will get people interested.
     
    Not to come across as a judgement, it would be better if your communications on here really made you seem sincere and nice and were not at all polarizing. Right now they are going a little bit, well, not friendly and expressing whatever you feel to other members won't help you to snag new clients when they go poking around on here.
     
    If the problem is client retention, I had a method that worked beautifully and took just a bit of extra work. I kept copious notes about the interactions I had with potential clients before they booked me and made even more intense notes about the experience directly after the session. If they mentioned they were in town for a gasket convention, I'd put a note in my day-planner (this was the 90s) to follow up with the fellow about a month before the convention the following year. You'd be shocked at how well that worked and how regularly many people travel. Same with pilots...this was before texting, but I had 7 or 8 pilots that knew they could send me a day and a flight number and I'd keep an eye on the airline timetable and be discretely waiting int he hotel lobby when they got there....they did not even have to think about it. Every client got their own unique number so they would get linked back into my notes....and every single detail about what we talked about / did sexually / any personal info went into it along with the anything I could glean about them. How much they paid, if they tipped, preferred lube...I wrote it all down. If I wanted to pursue them, I'd try to find a way to weave my way back into their lives. This was also back in the days of the aol chatrooms, so it was relatively easy to see them online and send a DM about whatever...ie, 'it was so awesome to meet you last month. I can't stop thinking about using the purple dildo on you while you sang the national anthem; that was so incredibly hot'. If it was actually someone that I enjoyed meeting or within easy proximity I'd also give them a 10 or 20% discount, banking that the'd likely tip me and it would all even out.
     
    Over the 4 years I had maybe 1200 different clients and the notes I kept about them filled 6 moleskin notebooks and a couple of excel spreadsheets to be able to cross reference people. Even to this day I can flip into them and instantly know who almost all of these guys were, which is sort of fun. If my reaching out to them led to another session (or they reached back out to me at a later date) I could totally know exactly what they were looking for and it made the likelihood of them flaking drop to nearly zero....as they would be impressed that I could 'remember' all of these details and must have had such a personal connection.
     
    One of my best clients was this mildly creepy older fellow who I could tell was sad. I went to his single family house in a posh city neighborhood and managed to see a funeral card sitting out on his nightstand from (what I assumed was) his wife dying 10 months prior. I did my thing sexually but also rubbed his back and chatted a bit about how great his old stone house was....and noticed he had a bag of those nasty werthers originals on his hall table when I left. I sent him a follow up email the next day (you should always do that, and always mention something nice that you connected with (even if you have to make it up...and it can never ever seem like a form note) which did not get returned....I had a feeling that whatever we did was probably fun for the moment, but may have made him even more sad after. Five or six weeks later I dropped a bag of those candies into his mail slot with a totally non incriminating PG note from me that said I had taken one without asking and wanted to replenish his stockpile and reiterated how much I enjoyed our conversation and also sent a email letting him know there was a little something that I left, allowing my contact info to be fresh in his inbox.. I knew that that would probably hit him at a vulnerable time and it would get me a repeat visit, which it totally did.
     
    We never did talk about really anything at all in his personal life but he turned into an awesome 4 year client and it only ended when he finally decided to move away...and the last time I saw him he gave me this hand-knotted rug that I had complimented early on in knowing him, so he was obviously paying attention. I still keep it in my dressing room and think of him each time I go in there.
     
    I think I identified 7 or 8 people during my time that I wanted as long term people and managed to turn 4 of them into real money makers.
     
    I was also never a clock watcher, within reason, once you got me there you had me. My thought was that the actual time spent was a lot smaller than the time I spent in dealing with inquiries and travel time....so what's another 30 or 60 minutes if it leads to consistent work. I'd always sort of read the room, let the guy know that the sessions started when clothes came off, hang out and chat or whatever until they were comfy and really ready to go. And the post fucking cuddle time is super important to some folks, so just hanging out in bed after its all done can be a really pleasing memory for the fellow to have of you. I did have one fellow who I saw weekly that wanted to and was able to bottom for over an hour and seemed to have limitless stamina. It was impressive, as my penis is on the larger side. So I learned that at about the 50 minute mark I'd totally fake an orgasm (the entire pulsing dick / pretending that I just couldn't hold it back) and I'd sort of keep myself in him and pant for a minute....and follow up with 'Man, I can't believe you ass took me over the edge like that, lets get you off before my dick goes down' and he would happily beat himself off with no help from me. He never did seem to realize this was an act and told me on many occasions that I was the only guy who had ever satisfied him.
     
    The other key is marketing 101....one callback is great, but if you can get someone to see you for a third time, you're part of their 'routine' and it's almost a sure bet they will keep calling you....and the more that you can personalize your services the more likely it is it will lead to good things. That said, emotionally for an escort repeat clients can have their own issues. I had several that I just did not like and having sex with them was a completely not enjoyable experience.
     
    I keep thinking I should write some sort of escort advice blog or something. I really did approach is as a career when I did it. I was not by any means the hottest guy around or the best in bed, but my attention to detail and working out a good method to it all really helped me to find success.
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    + haring222 got a reaction from liubit in What are some ways to gain more regulars?   
    I'll toss in my two cents. For background, I was a relatively successful escort in the late 90s while in college (averaging 6.2 meetings per week at a minimum of $200 per, which was high back then) and now have my own business, where I am the fellow that often brings in the new business.
     
    If the problem is not enough inquiries to begin with, you need to change up the way you are marketing yourself. I did not look at your adverts, but things like new pictures or a different approach to your verbiage might be in order. A lot of clients do some research, so try to cross pollinate your approach...you should try to have a social media presence on twitter that makes you seem interesting and hints at your personality. Theres also the dynamic of bringing to the market something fresh or unique....if your market is lacking in some arena put on the persona that will fill it. Universally, presenting an up-beat attitude about how much you love what you do and how much goodness you bring to the table will get people interested.
     
    Not to come across as a judgement, it would be better if your communications on here really made you seem sincere and nice and were not at all polarizing. Right now they are going a little bit, well, not friendly and expressing whatever you feel to other members won't help you to snag new clients when they go poking around on here.
     
    If the problem is client retention, I had a method that worked beautifully and took just a bit of extra work. I kept copious notes about the interactions I had with potential clients before they booked me and made even more intense notes about the experience directly after the session. If they mentioned they were in town for a gasket convention, I'd put a note in my day-planner (this was the 90s) to follow up with the fellow about a month before the convention the following year. You'd be shocked at how well that worked and how regularly many people travel. Same with pilots...this was before texting, but I had 7 or 8 pilots that knew they could send me a day and a flight number and I'd keep an eye on the airline timetable and be discretely waiting int he hotel lobby when they got there....they did not even have to think about it. Every client got their own unique number so they would get linked back into my notes....and every single detail about what we talked about / did sexually / any personal info went into it along with the anything I could glean about them. How much they paid, if they tipped, preferred lube...I wrote it all down. If I wanted to pursue them, I'd try to find a way to weave my way back into their lives. This was also back in the days of the aol chatrooms, so it was relatively easy to see them online and send a DM about whatever...ie, 'it was so awesome to meet you last month. I can't stop thinking about using the purple dildo on you while you sang the national anthem; that was so incredibly hot'. If it was actually someone that I enjoyed meeting or within easy proximity I'd also give them a 10 or 20% discount, banking that the'd likely tip me and it would all even out.
     
    Over the 4 years I had maybe 1200 different clients and the notes I kept about them filled 6 moleskin notebooks and a couple of excel spreadsheets to be able to cross reference people. Even to this day I can flip into them and instantly know who almost all of these guys were, which is sort of fun. If my reaching out to them led to another session (or they reached back out to me at a later date) I could totally know exactly what they were looking for and it made the likelihood of them flaking drop to nearly zero....as they would be impressed that I could 'remember' all of these details and must have had such a personal connection.
     
    One of my best clients was this mildly creepy older fellow who I could tell was sad. I went to his single family house in a posh city neighborhood and managed to see a funeral card sitting out on his nightstand from (what I assumed was) his wife dying 10 months prior. I did my thing sexually but also rubbed his back and chatted a bit about how great his old stone house was....and noticed he had a bag of those nasty werthers originals on his hall table when I left. I sent him a follow up email the next day (you should always do that, and always mention something nice that you connected with (even if you have to make it up...and it can never ever seem like a form note) which did not get returned....I had a feeling that whatever we did was probably fun for the moment, but may have made him even more sad after. Five or six weeks later I dropped a bag of those candies into his mail slot with a totally non incriminating PG note from me that said I had taken one without asking and wanted to replenish his stockpile and reiterated how much I enjoyed our conversation and also sent a email letting him know there was a little something that I left, allowing my contact info to be fresh in his inbox.. I knew that that would probably hit him at a vulnerable time and it would get me a repeat visit, which it totally did.
     
    We never did talk about really anything at all in his personal life but he turned into an awesome 4 year client and it only ended when he finally decided to move away...and the last time I saw him he gave me this hand-knotted rug that I had complimented early on in knowing him, so he was obviously paying attention. I still keep it in my dressing room and think of him each time I go in there.
     
    I think I identified 7 or 8 people during my time that I wanted as long term people and managed to turn 4 of them into real money makers.
     
    I was also never a clock watcher, within reason, once you got me there you had me. My thought was that the actual time spent was a lot smaller than the time I spent in dealing with inquiries and travel time....so what's another 30 or 60 minutes if it leads to consistent work. I'd always sort of read the room, let the guy know that the sessions started when clothes came off, hang out and chat or whatever until they were comfy and really ready to go. And the post fucking cuddle time is super important to some folks, so just hanging out in bed after its all done can be a really pleasing memory for the fellow to have of you. I did have one fellow who I saw weekly that wanted to and was able to bottom for over an hour and seemed to have limitless stamina. It was impressive, as my penis is on the larger side. So I learned that at about the 50 minute mark I'd totally fake an orgasm (the entire pulsing dick / pretending that I just couldn't hold it back) and I'd sort of keep myself in him and pant for a minute....and follow up with 'Man, I can't believe you ass took me over the edge like that, lets get you off before my dick goes down' and he would happily beat himself off with no help from me. He never did seem to realize this was an act and told me on many occasions that I was the only guy who had ever satisfied him.
     
    The other key is marketing 101....one callback is great, but if you can get someone to see you for a third time, you're part of their 'routine' and it's almost a sure bet they will keep calling you....and the more that you can personalize your services the more likely it is it will lead to good things. That said, emotionally for an escort repeat clients can have their own issues. I had several that I just did not like and having sex with them was a completely not enjoyable experience.
     
    I keep thinking I should write some sort of escort advice blog or something. I really did approach is as a career when I did it. I was not by any means the hottest guy around or the best in bed, but my attention to detail and working out a good method to it all really helped me to find success.
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    + haring222 got a reaction from + Lucky in Feeling overwhelmed by the move   
    I lived in a place that was bonkers. Four floors, almost 7500 square feet of rambling old building in the boystown area of Chicago. I had my office in there with three people working, a few airbnb units, a giant room called the hoarder basement (full of, well, crap) and just heaving with stuff. It got to the point where the house was ruling my life and making me nuts. I bought a 700 square foot condo and gave myself 6 months to purge. It was awful...literally, moving trucks coming every week taking stuff to modern furniture dealers / donations / an auction house. And I discovered that you can pretty much put anything on the free section of craigslist and someone will come and take it (like a harpsichord that was sitting under a radiator that blew a valve). Anyway, a year later I can say it was the best decision ever and out of thousands of objects that left my life I think I have missed only one or two things. So keep the faith and don't get bogged down in the details. I took a minute to take pictures before it all got ripped apart and pictures of things that left that made me pause and I have enjoyed scrolling past all of those things in my phone.
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    + haring222 got a reaction from + FrankR in Feeling overwhelmed by the move   
    I lived in a place that was bonkers. Four floors, almost 7500 square feet of rambling old building in the boystown area of Chicago. I had my office in there with three people working, a few airbnb units, a giant room called the hoarder basement (full of, well, crap) and just heaving with stuff. It got to the point where the house was ruling my life and making me nuts. I bought a 700 square foot condo and gave myself 6 months to purge. It was awful...literally, moving trucks coming every week taking stuff to modern furniture dealers / donations / an auction house. And I discovered that you can pretty much put anything on the free section of craigslist and someone will come and take it (like a harpsichord that was sitting under a radiator that blew a valve). Anyway, a year later I can say it was the best decision ever and out of thousands of objects that left my life I think I have missed only one or two things. So keep the faith and don't get bogged down in the details. I took a minute to take pictures before it all got ripped apart and pictures of things that left that made me pause and I have enjoyed scrolling past all of those things in my phone.
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    + haring222 got a reaction from + bigjoey in Feeling overwhelmed by the move   
    I lived in a place that was bonkers. Four floors, almost 7500 square feet of rambling old building in the boystown area of Chicago. I had my office in there with three people working, a few airbnb units, a giant room called the hoarder basement (full of, well, crap) and just heaving with stuff. It got to the point where the house was ruling my life and making me nuts. I bought a 700 square foot condo and gave myself 6 months to purge. It was awful...literally, moving trucks coming every week taking stuff to modern furniture dealers / donations / an auction house. And I discovered that you can pretty much put anything on the free section of craigslist and someone will come and take it (like a harpsichord that was sitting under a radiator that blew a valve). Anyway, a year later I can say it was the best decision ever and out of thousands of objects that left my life I think I have missed only one or two things. So keep the faith and don't get bogged down in the details. I took a minute to take pictures before it all got ripped apart and pictures of things that left that made me pause and I have enjoyed scrolling past all of those things in my phone.
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    + haring222 got a reaction from + Vegas_Millennial in Feeling overwhelmed by the move   
    I lived in a place that was bonkers. Four floors, almost 7500 square feet of rambling old building in the boystown area of Chicago. I had my office in there with three people working, a few airbnb units, a giant room called the hoarder basement (full of, well, crap) and just heaving with stuff. It got to the point where the house was ruling my life and making me nuts. I bought a 700 square foot condo and gave myself 6 months to purge. It was awful...literally, moving trucks coming every week taking stuff to modern furniture dealers / donations / an auction house. And I discovered that you can pretty much put anything on the free section of craigslist and someone will come and take it (like a harpsichord that was sitting under a radiator that blew a valve). Anyway, a year later I can say it was the best decision ever and out of thousands of objects that left my life I think I have missed only one or two things. So keep the faith and don't get bogged down in the details. I took a minute to take pictures before it all got ripped apart and pictures of things that left that made me pause and I have enjoyed scrolling past all of those things in my phone.
  12. Like
    + haring222 got a reaction from + Hoover42 in Feeling overwhelmed by the move   
    I lived in a place that was bonkers. Four floors, almost 7500 square feet of rambling old building in the boystown area of Chicago. I had my office in there with three people working, a few airbnb units, a giant room called the hoarder basement (full of, well, crap) and just heaving with stuff. It got to the point where the house was ruling my life and making me nuts. I bought a 700 square foot condo and gave myself 6 months to purge. It was awful...literally, moving trucks coming every week taking stuff to modern furniture dealers / donations / an auction house. And I discovered that you can pretty much put anything on the free section of craigslist and someone will come and take it (like a harpsichord that was sitting under a radiator that blew a valve). Anyway, a year later I can say it was the best decision ever and out of thousands of objects that left my life I think I have missed only one or two things. So keep the faith and don't get bogged down in the details. I took a minute to take pictures before it all got ripped apart and pictures of things that left that made me pause and I have enjoyed scrolling past all of those things in my phone.
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    + haring222 got a reaction from JayCeeKy in Feeling overwhelmed by the move   
    I lived in a place that was bonkers. Four floors, almost 7500 square feet of rambling old building in the boystown area of Chicago. I had my office in there with three people working, a few airbnb units, a giant room called the hoarder basement (full of, well, crap) and just heaving with stuff. It got to the point where the house was ruling my life and making me nuts. I bought a 700 square foot condo and gave myself 6 months to purge. It was awful...literally, moving trucks coming every week taking stuff to modern furniture dealers / donations / an auction house. And I discovered that you can pretty much put anything on the free section of craigslist and someone will come and take it (like a harpsichord that was sitting under a radiator that blew a valve). Anyway, a year later I can say it was the best decision ever and out of thousands of objects that left my life I think I have missed only one or two things. So keep the faith and don't get bogged down in the details. I took a minute to take pictures before it all got ripped apart and pictures of things that left that made me pause and I have enjoyed scrolling past all of those things in my phone.
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    + haring222 got a reaction from marylander1940 in Erotic massage protocol.   
    This is ridiculous....I am preplanning for a trip to Thailand (it was going to be this year, hopefully it can be next year) and as an easily confused and embarrassed fellow, the fact that it's so very foreign is exciting but makes me nervous.
     
    When you go into a massage place...what is the normal protocal. I keep looking at these websites and they show massage tables draped with crap / towels/ etc...what in the world are you supposed to do with all of this? I get that you're probably supposed to drape the towel over you? I am hoping some of you guys have had experience with this! Int he states, you generally just climb under a sheet if it's a more legit place or flop on the table naked if it's less legitimate.
     
    Thanks for any advice! And if anyone wants a travel buddy, we should connect.
     
    David
     
    https://ninemenspa.com/photos-nine-spa-bangkok
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    + haring222 got a reaction from former lurker in Any of you with experience buying/selling houses?   
    If you're going to be asking for a major repair or credit...make sure that you have a couple of concurring opinions. And make sure that these are clearly sent to the listing broker, who will now have the responsibility (at least in Illinois) to let other potential buyers know that they have seen these reports. It's harder to argue if you present it as 'here is what the home inspection said, so we brought in a seismic engineer. We also brought in another seismic engineer to get their opinion, and they all agree about this issue'
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    + haring222 got a reaction from Danny-Darko in Any of you with experience buying/selling houses?   
    If you're going to be asking for a major repair or credit...make sure that you have a couple of concurring opinions. And make sure that these are clearly sent to the listing broker, who will now have the responsibility (at least in Illinois) to let other potential buyers know that they have seen these reports. It's harder to argue if you present it as 'here is what the home inspection said, so we brought in a seismic engineer. We also brought in another seismic engineer to get their opinion, and they all agree about this issue'
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    + haring222 got a reaction from + Yellowrod in This Tattoo thing.   
    I see so many cute fellows with such huge tattoos, and they just make me loose interest.
     
    When I was a teenager, I remember the lectures from my overbearing, difficult, screechy voiced mum who has basically been 70 years old her entire life. Most of them were not relevant to the life of any sane adolescent, but the one that actually made sense was her absolute loathing of anyone who got a tattoo. Everything from 'they did that to our people at the camps' to 'I want to make sure I can bury you in a Jewish cemetery when you die'....oddly enough, when she actually turned 70 a few years ago and got 'permanent makeup' applied to her eyebrows (making her look sort of like a wrinkled, terrifying version of catwoman) and lips (making her look like a vegas hooker at a long night of work) we had a blowout argument about that being the same / looking s bad as a tattoo.
     
    I digress.
     
    I buzzed down to Indianapolis to visit her last weekend and while in situ in my adolescent bedroom, I decided to sneak out for a meeting with a great looking fellow off of rentmen. And managed to not notice in his ad that he had massive star shaped tattoo messes all over his chest (oy) which was a letdown. (though he looked quite nice facedown, so all was not lost).
     
    The entire time I kept thinking 'oh, god those will look terrible when you are 50' but on my way home realized I would likely be mostly dead by the time he was 50, so I did not have to worry about it.
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    + haring222 got a reaction from + friendofsheila in I had an escort flake, and it kind of let me down.   
    So I had to go to a tedious wedding over the weekend in Chicago (well, lovely and so well thought out, but weddings are not my thing) and I reached out to an escort to actually be my date. Nice young guy, well reviewed. I let him know it was really an escort situation, no one on one time was required....and when I found out he did not have an appropriate dark suit offered to pick up the cost for that.
     
    We had three days of good back and forth texting, initiated by him as I am not the type to take folks time. I was really looking forward to it, and the day we were to go and grab an outfit for him...nothing. No responses to my reaching out. And the next day I ended up going to the wedding alone, which was sucky. And reached out again to see if I had somehow done something wrong.
     
    The guy did research on me, read a profile on me that was in the new york times and researched my company and made some sincere compliments about me being under 40 and moderately successful. I play with an open book and just assume others to do the same, so this 'ghosting' really made me sad.
     
    Does anyone have an idea why folks do this? I can deal with someone getting a better offer from some other guy or whatever, but to just not answer is so weird to me.
  19. Sad
    + haring222 got a reaction from Mocha in I had an escort flake, and it kind of let me down.   
    So I had to go to a tedious wedding over the weekend in Chicago (well, lovely and so well thought out, but weddings are not my thing) and I reached out to an escort to actually be my date. Nice young guy, well reviewed. I let him know it was really an escort situation, no one on one time was required....and when I found out he did not have an appropriate dark suit offered to pick up the cost for that.
     
    We had three days of good back and forth texting, initiated by him as I am not the type to take folks time. I was really looking forward to it, and the day we were to go and grab an outfit for him...nothing. No responses to my reaching out. And the next day I ended up going to the wedding alone, which was sucky. And reached out again to see if I had somehow done something wrong.
     
    The guy did research on me, read a profile on me that was in the new york times and researched my company and made some sincere compliments about me being under 40 and moderately successful. I play with an open book and just assume others to do the same, so this 'ghosting' really made me sad.
     
    Does anyone have an idea why folks do this? I can deal with someone getting a better offer from some other guy or whatever, but to just not answer is so weird to me.
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    + haring222 got a reaction from MscleLovr in Hiring Two Escorts   
    That literally would never occur to me. I wonder how they pick who get's to canoodle with you first? I would for sure want to be the first one up to bat :-)
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    + haring222 got a reaction from + ButchAtl in Bringing lube   
    The idea of using travel sized shampoo bottles for lube is AWESOME! I always try and pack those flat packets of lube, which are hard to open up and use. Never again.
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    + haring222 got a reaction from + HornyRetiree in Very cute boy next door might need some help with math...   
    I always use the term sexual congress....I think it is left over from being partially raised by an old English lady; a lot of her speech oddities snuck into my language skills. Though why I would have picked up that phrase from her I don't know.
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    + haring222 got a reaction from GeminiCA in Toronto   
    If Jacob is still in Toronto...I wrote a review about him a bit ago. He was some of the best sex I have ever had in my life.
  24. Like
    + haring222 got a reaction from GeminiCA in Toronto   
    Yes. That fellow pushed every single good button. I made out with him on his couch like I was a 14 year old high school boy...it was glorious.
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    + haring222 got a reaction from + bashful in Optimal Chicago Hotel locations   
    I HEARTILY recommend the Chicago Athletic Association hotel if you want a cool downtown location; the staff is super laid back and valet / parking is easy. It has the perk of having a rooftop deck if clients want to hang out an it has a superb place to eat called the cherry circle room.
    https://www.chicagoathletichotel.com/about
     
    If you want a non gay neighborhood experience, check out the Robey Hotel in Bucktown. Awesome building, valet parking, great neighborhood.
    https://www.therobey.com/
     
    If you want something affordable / young / cool, check out the Freehand. Part of the building is hostel, and part of the building are hotel rooms. It was designed by Roman and Williams out of NYC, so the style is there.
    https://freehandhotels.com/chicago/rooms/
     
    And I would also highly recommend the Ace Hotel int he West loop. awesome neighborhood, easy parking, really cool.
    http://www.acehotel.com/chicago
     
    And, if you are looking for an airbnb situation in the middle of the gay nightclub strip (and full disclosure, I own an interest in this though i do not manage it) I know for a fact this airbnb will be perfectly fine to see clients in. Reach out and I can share a link,
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