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I appreciate Simon Suraci's post since he sees the big picture, not just a one sided "why don't other people do what I want?" point of view. I get how irritating it can be for providers. Customers who flake. Customers who expect more than is reasonable for the rate charged (i.e., want a full service escort at an erotic massage rate). Customers who lack basic social skills. On the flip side, it isn't like clients are always treated fairly or with respect. I "read between the lines" once on a Rentmasseur ad. The ad was so over-the-top in its wording, things along the lines of "I will give you a hard and deep massage with every part of my body." One would have had to be completely naive or stupid to not "read between the lines" of that ad to assume that the massage would be very erotic indeed, and his rate was at the top end of masseurs in my area at the time. Guess what happened during my appointment? Nothing erotic at all. The guy never even took off his tank top, did not allow me to touch him, and avoided touching any area near my genitals. Had I wanted a strictly therapeutic massage I would have looked for that and paid half his rate. I definitely felt ripped off, and I know this guy knew what he was doing -- being overly suggestive in ad text and photos in order to lure clients into paying his high rate, and then under-delivering at least for some people. It bothered me so much that the next guy I reached out to I basically wrote a summary of my previous disappointment and indicated I was looking for something more erotic than that. I still didn't ask the guy to be explicit about what he would do, but he replied with an assurance that he was more engaging than that and that I wouldn't be disappointed. He lived up to his word. In summary, most guys have offered service consistent with how they presented themselves in their ads but there have been a few here and there whom I viewed as outright con men. So, if you're a provider, try not to be too upset when someone is trying to clarify in advance more about what they can expect if they hire you. I get that starting an exchange with "do you provide a happy ending" is tacky and I'm not suggesting that you should even bother to reply to someone like that. But if someone knows how to have a more nuanced conversation, don't be mad just because they want a bit more clarity about what you are offering.

If you look at the text of his reviews, the most recent one uses the name Alex and an older one calls him BeefyMeatball.

Maybe it's just me, but if I were a provider I don't even think I'd take that Mr Number "review" seriously just like I never took seriously negative reviews about providers that seemed more about just annihilating someone rather than giving specific information about transpired (good or bad).

I'm not necessarily saying the concern is legitimate. I think the odds of getting busted as a "john" are very low after simply sending a deposit to an escort. But don't you think some people just don't want any concrete evidence that they paid for the service of an escort? What if the escort gets busted and then the police look through that escort's records to see who has been sending them money, and then the cops try to go after those people as well? I don't think it's completely out of the realm of possibility, which is why I think some clients just want to pay cash in person so there's no concrete evidence that they paid the escort. There is no comparison to the other items in your list. It isn't illegal to go to a concert, engage in psychotherapy or personal training, or to take a vacation. Almost everywhere in the USA it is illegal to pay someone for sexual services. I do agree that the bigger concern some people may have is their activity being discovered by a sexual partner, but I don't think clients' concerns about legal problems is non-existent.

One of the issues involved that I haven't seen mentioned in this thread is that if you're talking about a deposit for an escort service, a lot of clients don't want there to be a "paper trail" (well, it would actually be an electronic trail) of them sending money to someone for a service that isn't legal where they live.

Thank you for linking that article. Here's the paragraph that would attempt to explain how she rationalized her passing out repeatedly: "Pelicot acknowledged that he had put powerful tranquilisers into his wife's food and coffee that put her to sleep for hours. Gisele said she was worried she was developing Alzheimer's or had a brain tumour because of the memory gaps." I am not trying to blame her at all; I'm just expressing surprise that she could be drugged so many times that she wouldn't have demanded medical care to try to determine what was happening.

I haven't read about this story until now. The one thing that puzzles me (and perhaps this has been addressed by her) is how she was drugged so often without suspecting something was wrong long before the police found the videos.

Unless he's changed his ad again in the past 4 minutes, I don't see any expanded services. He doesn't list anything sexual in his ad other than erotic massage. As to the original question, who knows why he chose Rentmen versus Rentmasseur. A way to charge more for a massage? Maybe. Because he's not really focusing on massage but more of a rub and tug kind of experience? Maybe. Because he actually offers escort services but doesn't want to specify that in his ad? Maybe. Only he knows. He's certainly not the first guy to place an erotic massage ad on Rentmen.

Some of the photos look familiar to me as well, but I cannot remember any previous name.

The solution is for the client to have the exact amount for the session in one pocket, and then what one wants to give as a tip in another. That way it's easy to hand over just the contents of the first pocket if the session wasn't very good, and hand over both if it was. I would never think of asking an escort or masseur to make change. ATMs typically dispense twenties, so at most one would be "over tipping" $10 if one bothered to go to an ATM before the session.

Despite me liking Benjamin Nicholas' post because I share his skepticism as to whether this engagement would be worthwhile for you, I will offer the following since it sounds like you are inclined to accept the gig: Make sure the host/your client has communicated the same boundaries to both you and the guests who will be in attendance. I can only imagine how difficult it would be for you if the clients think they have been invited to a party where they are free to engage with you sexually but you think you are just there as a waiter who's also eye candy, collecting numbers for later business engagements. I can see many party guests trying to go farther with you than you wish, particularly after they get drunk, and if the host has been ambiguous about what is and isn't allowed then you could find yourself feeling taking advantage of.

From my perspective, requiring a body photo is even worse. At least I can rationalize someone wanting to see your face before meeting if you've seen theirs since it may be less about looks and more about security -- they want to be able to identify a client if something goes wrong. If someone wants to see my body before allowing me to hire him, I might as well just be looking for a free hook-up.

Talk about making assumptions.

Is it just me, or is anyone else put off by the name? When I think of a musty dick, I think of something that's going to smell bad so I won't want it near my face, much less in my mouth.

I worked for UHC subsidiary United Behavioral Health 25 years ago. I guess UHC had acquired UBH not long before I started working there, and the "old timers" told me how much better UBH was before the UHC buyout. I only lasted a couple of years because it was a horrible place to work. Low pay for the qualifications required and a grueling workload. No financial incentives to do a great job because everyone lower on the totem pole got rewarded similarly (which meant minuscule raises and a paltry year end bonus). I resigned shortly after an annual report was released that showed my salary was about .13% of the CEO's, and I wasn't even at the bottom of the totem pole.

I don't think wondering how his murder will affect your insurance is a "normal person's reaction." Why would the death of the CEO of a huge company affect individual customers? This isn't a small business where the principal's death might result in the business closing. UHC will go on.

Unless you've been blocked by him, I think the best way to get your questions answered is to ask him directly. I think coriolis888 hit the nail on the head, though, and it's best to remember that unless you've actually developed a friendship with an escort then the wonderful time you have while you're together is simply the guy being a good paid companion. That doesn't mean that he actively dislikes you because he doesn't want to engage in friendly pleasantries in between appointments; it just means he's setting boundaries so that clients keep their expectations in check. I've only ever befriended one man out of the hundreds I've hired. It was clear almost from the beginning that we had a lot in common, and the friendship has continued even after I stopped hiring him. Beyond a simple follow up text to an appointment saying that I enjoyed someone's company, I would never think of contacting an escort I liked just to chit chat. It's like any other professional relationship. I appreciate my primary care physician and tell him that when I see him or have a need to message him about a medical issue, but I would never contact him for social reasons. I think this boundary between escort and client can just be more confusing due to the intimacy of the service provided. It's sort of like a psychotherapist with the main exception being that a psychotherapist has laws and ethics regarding boundaries. A smart escort is going to set similar boundaries, though: enough friendliness to encourage repeat business but not so much that he encourages a client to misinterpret the escort's intentions.

What's with the aggressive stance towards me?

Thanks for this. I just searched for a photo on Rentmen and it initially showed me the Rentmen page as a match. When I clicked "Find Image Source," Google took me to a Facebook page where that same image was used a couple of years ago. It makes no sense to me why this doesn't work when right clicking the image and selecting Search with Google Lens; I searched for the same image that way and just got a bunch of men wearing Speedos but none of them the exact photo I searched. Ostensibly they are both searching for the same photo with the same Google program, but the method you describe works and the right click method doesn't even find the image on the source page. Unfortunately the working method only seems to be available to the main photo in an ad on Rentmen, since it's possible to grab that image address. Once in someone's ad looking at all of their photos, I don't see a way to grab the image URL for the other images. Edit: I found a way to grab the URL for other images. It's a bit cumbersome and I may not describe it such that others can follow it, but if you select the "View Page Source" from the right-click menu the image URLs appear in a list about a third of the way down on that page. This works on rentmen.eu but not rent.men.

I've had the hots for him for a long time, too. I'm not too enamored by the most recent photos in his ad, though. I know this is heresy to some here, but I think he looks too lean in the main photo of his ad.

I know I submitted my first review to the old, old site (Hooboy) in October 2000, so I guess that's when I joined.

A perfect example of someone who is unwilling to put in writing anything he might do sexually. Who knows whether that's due to legal concerns or he simply wants to avoid doing anything sexual with clients, so if anyone hires him and just assumes he'll do what other guys do he can refer them to his ad which doesn't like any preferences or specific activities.

Just to spare others from clicking the link to read mostly nothing but to see a large photo of the alleged perp (something I didn't need to see), the only news is that the prosecution and defense have agreed to another continuance because they are (presumably) still working on a plea deal.

My memory is that there was a relatively brief window when Google Image Search worked very well. By that I mean you could find an escort's ad and then drag a photo to a different tab to search Google Images, or if using Chrome you could right click and search. When the tool was first available, I remember it matching any photo with an erection to things like photos of brooms or vacuum cleaners; obviously not helpful. But soon it was very good at identifying all the sites that that specific photo appeared on. This definitely helped to identify escorts who had simply grabbed someone else's photos for their ads. Unfortunately, for a long time now, I generally find image searching using Google's tools a waste of time. More often than not, it doesn't even find the image on the site where I found it (Rentmen, Rentmasseur). Only rarely do I get meaningful matches. Google Lens seems to do what Google Image Search did in its infancy. I just used it to search for a variety of photos in an escort's ad and got generic search results (e.g., a photo of the guy wearing a leather coat resulted in "matches" of different men wearing similar leather coats). I've never tried the other search tools mentioned here, but next time I want to search I'll try something other than Google's search tool.

That's exactly who I had in mind when making my previous post. His current ad states he's 61 and that doesn't seem to have negatively impacted him based on his positive reputation here.