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Hey all! So I am just leaving Zurich, and I had a great time in Paragonya for three days.
 The soft opening seemed pretty successful. I was there three weekdays, and there were no shortages of rentboys or clients.
 The renovation itself was fantastic, albeit unnecessary imo. When I visited a year ago, the style may have been aging slightly, but everything was immaculate. That hasn’t changed. It’s got a moodier and trendy vibe with a focus mor on the wellness, with added cold shower dunks, a cold tub and foot soaks. The steam room and jacuzzi swapped places, and the steam room is smaller but much nicer. There’s no longer a maze inside. The sauna is now all-wood with that weird rock formation gone. It now has starlights and an entire glass paned wall. The jacuzzi is now at the end, and my recommendation is when you first go there, make a b-line to it, sit facing the hallway and observe all the people coming through: you’re less likely to be immediately disturbed and you get to do some uninterrupted shopping.
 Upstairs is untouched, lockers and restrooms are the same, and the lounge are basically got a facelift with chairs and loungers instead of sofas.
 Staff is as perfect as ever. I was a little surprised on how many really good looking 50-something clients were present and were crushing among each other instead of the rentboys. That was pleasant to observe.
 Escorts leaned a little more twinkish than when I was there 10 months ago, but the variety was still solid and the quality hasn’t changed. With the exception of a couple Romanians that make me weary based on their slight aggressiveness and the consensus here (one guy actually tried to charge 200chf, lol), the guys were very honest and charged around 100-120chf.
 If I had any complaints, it would be that the jacuzzi was not warm enough and the tile on the floor around it wasn’t nonslip like the steps, so be a little careful.
 Extremely successful update, and I strongly recommend people pay it a visit.

i was there before covid ; i agree its not possible to take someone back to your hotel but guys are easy to find an eager and usually have somewhere they can take you (u'll need to cover the cost)
gay clubs are a good place to meet guys and rentboys liner on the street (la rampa) in the evenings

Renovation is complete.  Their Facebook page is advertising a soft opening tomorrow of their new facilities.

The address gets sent out once you RSVP to the event, and it's been in the Hollywood Hills area for a little while now. Should be the same place as February's nude party.

Just got back from a short work trip. Visited the sauna twice. despite the chilly weather, I’d say about 20+ working boys were there. About 5 were sketchy/pushy, another ten were perfectly fine, but not my type. So I had a solid five each day to choose from and not a lot of patrons… maybe 15 on Sunday, which was their busiest day. Almost everyone was Hispanic, with the exception of a couple Nigerians and a baby faced white twink that looked like Jared Leto in Fight Club, I kid you not. Lots of Brazilians, Venezuelans and some new Colombians. Good times to be had.
 If you want to book at your hotel, forgo Romeo, literally every guy I tried to hire there flaked out. Just arrange something with one of the sauna boys and stay at TWO, it’sa five minute walk at most, and it’s a genuinely good quality gay hotel for pretty cheap. 24 hour bodega is a few feet away, as is a great egg breakfast place (skip the hotel buffet it’s terrible). Boyberry it’s also next door.
 Rates go from 50-100 euros depending on what you want, and be very clear beforehand.
 On a side-note, one of the escorts mentioned there is a gay brothel by the university. I might start a separate thread in that since there is literally no info on this. He said there’s an amazing selection of college boys for very cheap. 

The next one after January will be the February one.

I was there last summer and someone was driving around in a gold-plated porsche, lol.
Zurich can be insanely wealthy, but as a visitor, I managed to stay at Sorel Rutli for a decent price, which was a three minute walk to Paragonya, and kept expenses down by eating street food around Paragonya, which is still expensive but not as bad as sitting down in a restaurant, having the complimentary breakfast in the hotel, and taking public transport, which was extremely reliable and accessible. The zoo, museums and parks were all free or very inexpensive.

Nevermind, I have Covid so I will be spending the rest of my trip in my hotel room.

I’m in Mexico City right now! I checked out Tom’s Leather Bar last night. (Tuesdays are their busiest day for some reason.) They had nude hard dancers up on the bar. 
 
There are several bars in Zona Rosa that have strippers, and I’m planning to check out a few of them. Gigolo Bar seems like one of the newer options. I’ll let you know more once I’ve tried some places out. 

WOW WOW WOW! Thank you men! This is all very helpful. I am such a planner so the idea of just waiting until I get to the strip club to talk to a guy in a suit is stressful. If you are willing to share any contacts, please PM me! I want to make friends with a stripper at 69 too. 
@Vegas_nw1982 where did you find the ‘high end, but guaranteed sex’ guys? Were they guys from the low end places? I love your categorization of activities/massages! Any specific low end places where you had the best luck?
@Minneapolis we can only wonder what happened! Another forum member suggested that to have fun in these kinda of places all you have to do is open your mouth as wide as your wallet. Haha!

Just got back from a short work trip. Visited the sauna twice. despite the chilly weather, I’d say about 20+ working boys were there. About 5 were sketchy/pushy, another ten were perfectly fine, but not my type. So I had a solid five each day to choose from and not a lot of patrons… maybe 15 on Sunday, which was their busiest day. Almost everyone was Hispanic, with the exception of a couple Nigerians and a baby faced white twink that looked like Jared Leto in Fight Club, I kid you not. Lots of Brazilians, Venezuelans and some new Colombians. Good times to be had.
 If you want to book at your hotel, forgo Romeo, literally every guy I tried to hire there flaked out. Just arrange something with one of the sauna boys and stay at TWO, it’sa five minute walk at most, and it’s a genuinely good quality gay hotel for pretty cheap. 24 hour bodega is a few feet away, as is a great egg breakfast place (skip the hotel buffet it’s terrible). Boyberry it’s also next door.
 Rates go from 50-100 euros depending on what you want, and be very clear beforehand.
 On a side-note, one of the escorts mentioned there is a gay brothel by the university. I might start a separate thread in that since there is literally no info on this. He said there’s an amazing selection of college boys for very cheap. 

Just got back from a short work trip. Visited the sauna twice. despite the chilly weather, I’d say about 20+ working boys were there. About 5 were sketchy/pushy, another ten were perfectly fine, but not my type. So I had a solid five each day to choose from and not a lot of patrons… maybe 15 on Sunday, which was their busiest day. Almost everyone was Hispanic, with the exception of a couple Nigerians and a baby faced white twink that looked like Jared Leto in Fight Club, I kid you not. Lots of Brazilians, Venezuelans and some new Colombians. Good times to be had.
 If you want to book at your hotel, forgo Romeo, literally every guy I tried to hire there flaked out. Just arrange something with one of the sauna boys and stay at TWO, it’sa five minute walk at most, and it’s a genuinely good quality gay hotel for pretty cheap. 24 hour bodega is a few feet away, as is a great egg breakfast place (skip the hotel buffet it’s terrible). Boyberry it’s also next door.
 Rates go from 50-100 euros depending on what you want, and be very clear beforehand.
 On a side-note, one of the escorts mentioned there is a gay brothel by the university. I might start a separate thread in that since there is literally no info on this. He said there’s an amazing selection of college boys for very cheap. 

Most of the dancers I asked did privates outside of the club and I get the feeling they can leave the club earlier than the dancers in Montreal.  All three bars had “hosts” that were dressed in all black getting drinks, answering questions.  I would approach one of them to see if they could arrange something for you. Tip him well and you’ll have a great evening.they speak fluid English and Spanish so the commutation will be seemless.
I did see some groups gather together with dancers along the far wall.  They set up “reserved” signs all over, but I don’t think it’s really enforced. Just tell the host right away you are there with a bachelor party and they’ll treat you right. On my last night there, an older guy came in with a beautiful woman and two gorgeous men.  They sat down by me, but only interacted with him.  Didn’t even say hello.  I eventually struck up a conversation with the older guy and asked about his night.  He was polite, but really focused on the dancers.  He flirted with a couple and then left.  My mind was going crazy thinking of all the different scenarios that could happen in their hotel room later.  My gut tells me these guys are dancers and met the older gentleman a couple of nights before. 
Have fun.  I recommend Club 69 for the group, but I think they are all good for parties of gay men wanting to enjoy beautiful men!
As far as my massage, I paid $4000 pesos which is around $200 dollars. Hope this helps!  Enjoy!

A gay brothel at the university! A tantalising thought! 

Was there last week and one thing I loved about this place is that the dancers are very much not scammers. You tell them two dances, they give you two, and will ask to keep going. Not a hint of shadiness. It's also surprising how much you can get away with despite the rooms being semi-public.
Sadly though, there was a dancer named George that's a total hottie that I met back in November, but I haven't seen him there on the two visits I made since, and no one has any info on him.

Was there last week and one thing I loved about this place is that the dancers are very much not scammers. You tell them two dances, they give you two, and will ask to keep going. Not a hint of shadiness. It's also surprising how much you can get away with despite the rooms being semi-public.
Sadly though, there was a dancer named George that's a total hottie that I met back in November, but I haven't seen him there on the two visits I made since, and no one has any info on him.

I have the best time in BARCELONA....Tim Tales has offices there..many of the guys advertise locally...I met Gianni  Maggio..Franklin Acevedo...Caio  Veyron..BCN is incredible place for men...

The reviews I read are good. On the old site there were pics of the guys. Most guys were in their twenties, Central/East European, good looking in my opinion.

Hi,
If you're into brothels these are the options:
Amsterdam (The Netherlands)
https://www.boysclub21.nl/

Cologne (Germany)
https://traumboys.eu/en/home-1-2-2/

London
https://www.villagiani.uk

Zürich (Switzerland)
https://www.paragonya.ch

TB Cologne seems to be the cheapest.

Flew in to PV a couple of days ago.  I have been meaning to come here for a couple of years now.  A fun couple I stoked up a conversation while in Montreal said this place tops Canada for strippers.  It may be a tie😜
I will preface this with the culture here is all about tipping.  There are tip jars everywhere and that’s how many make their money.  That said, be ready to be overwhelmed at first for dancers asking you for a tips for just coming up to you and saying hello.
Let’s get started:
The first three clubs are right next to each other.  So you can go in and out.  No cover.  They are on the street with all the major gay nightclubs.  Some of these have beautiful go go boys as well.
Club 69 - my favorite so far.  It is a two level with an upstairs balcony area that surrounds the club so you can watch the dancers below.  There’s seating along the wall to the right as you enter.  There is a host that greets you and asks you what you want to drink. I sat down down on the couch area.  Immediately there are dancers coming up to you greeting you, asking you if you want a private, etc.  and then ask you for a tip.  Just for talking with them for 30 seconds.  It took me awhile to get use to it, but I eventually did.  Most of the dancers were muscular.  Some smooth chest, so hairy.  A good mix. A couple of them were really good on the pole.  One dancer who looks like Jack from the White Lotus did an amazing pole dance. Another patron saw  him the next day with his girlfriend at the beach. 💔 So the dancers perform on stage and then go around for tips.  The rest of the time dancers are talking up customers for privates and tips.  I will back tonight for a couple of the dancers.  
 
Wet Bar - Similar vibe, but much smaller bar, but brighter.  It has an 80’s feel to it.  Dancers are similar to Club 69, but more agreesive.  Again, just hold your ground and say no thanks.  Most of them understand at least some english, so it isn’t too hard to talk.I did a private with someone who looked like Timotheé Chalamet.  Only more muscular.  This is where the privates differ from Canada.  You pay for the room $500 pesos (about $25 US) for ten minutes. The dancer gets naked and you can touch him around the body, but nothing sexual.  If you give the dancer another $500 pesos, then you get to interact more like a lap dance.  I did have fun teaching him some lap dance moves like breathing into the customers ear and talking dirty while playing with him.   Again there are prices for everything.  They are open to receiving blowjobs, but they won’t give a blowjob without a condom.  They will ask if you prefer to suck cock or eat ass—which I found to be a little amusing.  Hot guys and prices similar to Canada.
Pervert - you have to walk upstairs to get to the club.  I walked in and was the ONLY customer.  I felt like a lamb that just walked into the wolves den. Of course, I was immediately greeted by 10 guys asking for a dance.  Wow!  I got a drink and had a nice lap dance with a cute guy.  Paid the host the fee.  This wasn’t even a private,but I’m fine with PDA.  I left after this dance.  I’m sure it’s fun once it fills with customers, just don’t be the first one at 10pm.
Antropology - Big disappointment.  Went in and very aggressive dancers. Not attractive by the other stripclub standards. These guys have seen better days. There were only 2 dancers I even considered.  One was beautiful.  He stuck out like a rose among thorns. Another was in his early 40’s.  Looked like a younger Armand Assante.  Didn’t stay long enough to have a dance.  Might go at midnight with more crowds. There is supposedly a sex show late at night but I didn’t stay around for it.
Still have one night left. The city is beautiful and the climate is perfect. Even without the clubs, this is a great city to visit when you need to get away from the cold. 
 
I’ll post more later.  If anyone has suggestions or wants me to check another place out, let me know.  I can’t promise, but I’m always looking for suggestions. 

Update: just got back from London, and while the host was super friendly, things didn't go so smoothly. I had reached out a couple days before to get some portfolio emailed for a hotel visit, but never heard back. Thought I'd stop by, so I called ahead, and they told me they closed at 7, so I showed up around 5:30. The host was super friendly, but all the boys were leaving for the night. He suggested stopping by earlier in the day tomorrow, and he went through some photos if I wanted to schedule tonight. About half were Brazilian, and there was a Dutch guy, an Italian, a Spaniard, a Romanian and a Russian. The Russian was my favorite, cute twunky type. He told me he'd reach out and let me know about that night, but I never heard back. So that day was a bust.
I stopped by around 3pm the next day, he said the Russian would be available potentially that night. I asked about just doing an appointment while I was there. He did the two-way mirror thing and there were only three guys were there and they were really... rough. They looked like migrant twinks that weren't eating well and came straight off the street. It was a pretty depressing. I politely declined, saying they weren't really my type. The host acknowledged that winters had slim-pickings. I ended up not scheduling that night either.
The effort was there, and the interactions were extremely friendly, but it simply didn't work out. I'll probably be back in the spring, so hopefully things turn around.

I was there last summer and someone was driving around in a gold-plated porsche, lol.
Zurich can be insanely wealthy, but as a visitor, I managed to stay at Sorel Rutli for a decent price, which was a three minute walk to Paragonya, and kept expenses down by eating street food around Paragonya, which is still expensive but not as bad as sitting down in a restaurant, having the complimentary breakfast in the hotel, and taking public transport, which was extremely reliable and accessible. The zoo, museums and parks were all free or very inexpensive.

Days I can’t, I can only say they were open during the weekend from 1-7pm

I was there last summer and someone was driving around in a gold-plated porsche, lol.
Zurich can be insanely wealthy, but as a visitor, I managed to stay at Sorel Rutli for a decent price, which was a three minute walk to Paragonya, and kept expenses down by eating street food around Paragonya, which is still expensive but not as bad as sitting down in a restaurant, having the complimentary breakfast in the hotel, and taking public transport, which was extremely reliable and accessible. The zoo, museums and parks were all free or very inexpensive.

Has to be Zurich for Paragonya.