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I've seen mentioned here before a good way to make sure the other person is clean (if you want to ask in a non-offensive or indirect way) is to suggest showering together as part of foreplay. I initially saw it here suggested from the provider perspective wanting clean clients, but i could see it working the other way around too. I haven't run into this myself, i've been lucky with very cleanly providers that i eat out (even the one actually straight/straight-ish one i hire sometimes knew to keep it super clean back there). But if it were an issue, before meeting them the next time i'd maybe ask via text while setting up the next session "could you make sure to shower shortly before our meet?" Maybe if i was feeling self conscious about them taking the request the wrong way i might add on "because i really liked the scent of your body wash on you" or something. Lot of people use scented body washes or scented soaps of some kind, so wouldn't be an unreasonable or unrealistic thing for someone to say they enjoyed.

No info on him, but the other guy in the pics with him (i'm guessing they're either together or just friends that probably work together with clients frequently) is reviewed here (and not particularly well). EvanLux/EvanLuxx (and other names). No mention of RafaelStretxch in those threads though.

Me personally, and like others up thread have mentioned, i will not be partaking in SpaceX any time soon (outside of the automatic exposure from indexes). SpaceX IPO is just so early inside investors can cash out because Elon's lost so much value for them after having them help him buy Twitter and xAI. Both of which are highly unprofitable money furnaces and are now worth a fraction of what he had investors help him buy them for. They both also have been bought by and rolled into SpaceX (Elon just passing money around his own accounts basically) and that's what the IPO is actually selling to retail investors under the guise of finally being able to get in on SpaceX. xAI in particular are actively throwing billions of dollars into a furnace https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/xai-burned-6-4b-last-222608682.html with plans to spend more and no actual path to profitability in the foreseeable future (OpenAI who also are racing toward a rushed IPO via the same indexes bent rules has the same problem). SpaceX itself, in the past Elon had publicly said he wanted to keep SpaceX private specifically to not have to deal with the pressures and influences of running the company publicly like he does with Tesla. And he could afford to keep SpaceX private if he wanted to. He's only changed up on this now because he's doing this to bail out Twitter/xAI investors. I do think SpaceX itself has some potential as a long term business, but it's carrying the ball and chain of Twitter and xAI in the short term. And before you see any benefit of how SpaceX as a rocket company will perform, you have to carry the Twitter/xAI ball and chain first. I think retail investors will be left holding the bag when Twitter/xAI investors cash out. Then that potential crash in SpaceX stock price would be the actual preferred buy in point for people who think SpaceX will do well in the future. Everything about this IPO screams crypto style rug pull to me, personally. You can spot all the tells from that kind of thing in this from a mile away.

I'm around your age and i haven't had a problem with the college/just out of college aged guys. From what i can tell, a lot of them are actually very much used to guys older than us that are in their 40s, 50s, 60s and up. That's the sugar daddy age range, they have the real funds the younger providers get into this for. But I've found that a client who is big bro or uncle (or unc as the youth call us now) age is a nice change of pace for them personally. If anything will put them off, it's talking to them like this. No one finds this hot. As the Gen Zers say now from some meme, "buddy, you're scaring the hoes!" 🫢🫣

I also have had good times with no/low review guys. Some of them just happen to get the clients who don't subscribe to RM to be able to leave reviews but are working plenty often just as the highly reviewed guys are. The fact that the reviews on RM you do see are the top whatever % of the user base that cares enough to pay for the site to be able to leave a review and the other 80, 90, 95% of the users (whatever it may be) are hiring providers without ever leaving any reviews (like me), is something that should be remembered. Both for better (the pay wall means it's more likely reviewers are real reviewers) and worse (the paywall means there's very limited number of reviewers compared to the total user base which makes it inherently skewed). One of my regulars who i've been seeing for about a year, sees many clients, and still currently has no reviews on his profile. Having no profile reviews doesn't really mean the provider is new or bad, not by default. You definitely increase your odds of having a good experience by sticking to highly reviewed guys. SecretProvider is spot on in all he suggested. But i would say too, there is fun and hidden gems to find in the guys with no or very few reviews. Just still apply the vetting process SecretProvider listed before you meet them.

Haven't experienced that myself, but i've heard it's becoming more of a thing. Women going to Grindr and kind of using it like Feeld looking for bisexual men or for MMF threesomes and stuff like that or looking for gay men who might be bi-curious.

For 2 hours, other than doing it again... If we "finish" early, we just hang out and chat. Or we just call it and leave early and i just consider the "lost time" the fee for not having to worry about feeling rushed in a 1 hour slot, i'm not bothered by that if i'm the one choosing to head out early. Sitting in forced small talk too long is painfully awkward to me, and a scenario i'd pay to get out of. So it balances out lol.

No one else seemed to misunderstand. You not getting it doesn't mean it was weak. Some have agreed or disagreed, but if you didn't get it that's a you problem.

I don't think you understood what i said.

It's just another word bro. No one's forcing you to use it, relax 🤣

Long as you're paying for the travel and they have the time, it probably wouldn't be an issue. You can have escorts fly to you from out of state or even out of the country if you want (ones who are open to this often have "passport ready" or some variation of that on their RM profile I've noticed). It's just going to be at your expense and on you to set it up for them for the most part. They're not going to travel that far to you on their own dime unless it was there own travel plans they were already going to do.

I'm always curious how many new subscribers guys like this actually get from advertising through RM. As a former frequent OF user myself, once i started hiring, i very quickly had effectively no need for OF anymore because once you hire, just watching hot guys in content doesn't really scratch the itch like it used to. So i can't imagine this advertising method really results in many new subs. But maybe i'm wrong, if it didn't work at least a little bit, they wouldn't keep doing it i guess.

Bump. Yeah 5 out of 8 reviews all being the same guy and all within like 2 or 3 weeks is kinda crazy. Either fake or that guy is obsessed 😆

Bump, anyone had recent experiences with Diego? The above two comments don't sound great, but also people have off nights, and based on Diego's profile creation date he was pretty new. Curious if he's gotten better/more consistent. https://rent.men/Diego_Mendez

Ad is active again. Considering how many guys don't have auto-renew on and forget to re-up and then do so the next time they log back in. I kinda don't think ad expired is worth pointing out unless they also haven't logged in for 2-3 weeks, or more, or something.

Those are precisely the people i was thinking of when i typed it 🤣

Yeah you gotta turn on the Do Not Track Me setting. On RentMen, go to Settings and flip this switch on/to the right (image attached). When you view their profiles constantly, they get a notification every time you do. Which simply is annoying as hell, that's why they react how they do. It's like someone constantly poking you and then just staring at you. Your reaction is going to be angry or to go "what?!?!? at least say hi!" or they'll walk away. And that's pretty much the reaction you're getting. Or another comparison is, you're basically doing the equivalent of going to a store every day for the free samples and never buying anything, and calling attention to yourself while doing it. You're technically allowed to do that, but the store owner would hate you for it after a while lol. They won't unblock you once you hit this setting, but it will stop other providers from seeing how many times you view their profile moving forward, which will give them no reason to block you (unless you annoy them directly lol).

I've never heard of anyone doing that either. Just seems near impossible from a practicality perspective for the reasons you listed. I do know on Sniffies there is kind of that scene of "leave the door unlocked and i just show up and you're face down ass up for me" like you said. But that just seems impossible to do in a provider/client scenario without booking a specific time. FrankR is joking, but they're also kinda right 😆. At the very very least, if you want to at least try to indulge them in this, I'd say the best you could do is maybe have them book a window of time like a minimum 4 hour window where you will be ready and waiting and they show up at any time they want within that 4 hour window. If they want the possibility of, within that time window, walking in on you with another guy and joining in, it should be another provider (that the client also is paying) that is agreed on ahead of time or they give you permission to pick the collaborator (having another client agree to possibly be walked in on ahead of time seems egregiously impractical to set up ahead of time). You would need to charge accordingly for this. Either your normal rate x however many hours you agree to be available for or maybe a slightly reduced overnight rate or whatever you think is fair. Something like this should require a deposit too because of the work/time burden this would place on you if you decided to engage. Would be a major time and money loss if you waited and they no showed or something.

There's a thread on him here. Unless he's changed recently, doesn't seem like a good hire based on what's in this thread.

Maybe OP has social anxiety. For people with that issue, trying to figure out what to do in social situations where you don't already know "the script" so to speak, is a high pressure situation with big (perceived) consequences if you get it wrong. And like with any mental related thing or phobia, just saying "don't be anxious" doesn't work. They kind of just need the proper answer so they know what to do, that's what relieves the stress for them. Also. Many people with social anxiety very much do raise similar questions even with interacting with people they know depending on other factors. I myself have experienced times where i thought to wish someone a happy birthday but had second thoughts because it had been a prolonged period of time where we hadn't spoken and i wasn't sure if it'd be weird from their perspective if i reached out after said time. For some, there's no second thought and they just do it, for others that can be a major "how do i do this?" stressful moment. And a client/provider relationship is not the same as a friend/friend relationship anyway. Clients of course are paying for an experience that blends fantasy with reality, but that is not the case for the provider, it's just work for them. And even if a client does cross some threshold with a provider where they are more familiar, that can still be hard for some people to navigate without it being discussed explicitly. So i can totally see why OP would wonder how others handle it so they don't do something that is unintentionally weird/awkward that would cross into a possible personal boundary for the provider. Also, OP actually explicitly states they simply do not know the etiquette for this in their post: "Or is that crossing the line into “too personal”? Interested to hear how others handle it and what’s considered normal etiquette in this client-provider universe."

If they're a provider i see regularly and i know their birthday, i do send a birthday text yeah. I also actually refrain from hiring them during the week of their birthday assuming they would be taking off work for themself, unless they specifically offer a session/confirm that they're working. I've never thought to gift them stuff or birthday payments, i leave that to their high roller clients cause that's beyond my means. But there's a few where i would if i could. Going on the inverse scenario like you've brought up. I've had one provider know my birthday just from casual conversation after a session where i mentioned "oh yeah my birthday was last weekend and i went to XYZ" and he was like "oh my god why didn't you tell me it was your birthday?!" I thought he was just being nice, but now I'm wondering if maybe i missed out on a birthday session or gift 😆

I recognize some of those pics and i've seen other pics of him that aren't on that profile. He's a friend of another provider i hire regularly. That provider sends me different guys for us to play with together and this MascJhon guy was one of the guys he's suggested. Haven't met up with them together yet cause my regular guy and I's schedules haven't lined up recently, but i can follow up here once i do if no one else has by then. You can find other pics of the guy online/social media if you reverse image search the non-nude photos. Looks like he has a social media following (that has nothing to do with adult content). This seems like a secret side thing he does. At least based on the pics my regular guy sent me of MascJhon, he's probably not likely to send face pics, doesn't hurt to ask though. But based on the social media profiles you can find if you reverse image search, he's definitely hot/looks like how you probably think he does.

Arab_Fire's RM profile shows he's photo verified as of today. So if RMs photo verification process is anything to reliably go off of. That at least relieves my concern that he was using pics from an Instagram influencer and cat fishing. More likely to give him a try now.

I'm definitely in the minority here, but i prefer on the bed honestly. I've found massage tables to be too hard for my liking, the circular face cushion thing never fits my face and they makes my face sweat. And the transition from massage to sensual/erotic/full service is very awkward. I've personally found it all around to be more comfortable on a bed, and it makes the sensual/erotic/full service portion feel more natural. Firmness/softness level of the mattress is definitely a huge factor though. I've had massages on a mattress that's very supportive with just the right amount of softness (ideal) and i've had one massage on a mattress that was entirely too soft that made both the massage and the other portion of service not good.

I'm sure Telegram groups of people discussing escorts exist, but I'm not sure it'd really be drastically more or less useful than this forum though. Same thing just in a more modern "group chat" user interface compared to the "forum" interface. You could argue the Telegram group would be more focused on just discussing escorts whereas this forum has many sub-forums for non-escort related topics. Group chat interface though means there's no topics, no organization, you have to scroll through everyone's posts and side tangents, etc. Maybe a Telegram group could be better for discussing/sharing escorts specifically with people you know in real life who also hire and do so locally to where you are. Also could be good for discussing escorts who are operating via word of mouth only and don't advertise on RentMen and other sites. As this forum rightfully has rules against posting non-public info like social media or real names of guys if it's not specifically listed on their escort ad (we have to DM each other here for that if desired). To @soloyo215's and @DznNYC's points too. There's privacy related things to be aware of. Telegram does have end to end encryption via a feature called Secret Chats. However, it's important to know that this is only for one on one messages, is not on by default, and you have to turn it on for each specific chat individually. Telegram groups can be closed/invite only, but Telegram groups are not secure or private or encrypted. Plenty of people take that risk with trusted groups regularly and it's fine more often than not, but Telegram groups also get leaked/exposed sometimes because a scorned member posts screenshots or because someone gets caught and investigated. And if it ever got that far, Telegram would have the full chat logs and tied directly to your phone number (which you have to provide to make an account, but you can hide your number from fellow Telegram users in favor of a screen name) to hand over if subpoenaed. Not to say this forum doesn't have similar risk, they have our emails and IP addresses. But a VPN and burner email helps with obfuscation there.