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Not sure i agree on the latter half. Depends on your definition of using AI agents anonymously. Every centralized one i know of requires you to sign up with an email and make an account. And any of the ones that are actually anonymous or private require you to do a proper manual setup on your computer. You have to know MCP and APIs and this and that. Most people do not know how to do this and don't want to know, that's the whole reason why people want AI in the first place is to not have to be bothered with technical stuff because the AI does it for you. As far as privacy stuff goes, i wouldn't put those two things on the same level. Mobile carriers use ephemeral storage for messages. They only keep the content of texts for up to a couple months at most, but they maintain metadata like who you text and when but not the content of the messages. When law enforcement subpeona's them they are mainly handing over metadata unless it's within that couple weeks to months time frame. Now that Apple's iMessage is encrypted, and Android's RCS is encrypted, and messages between the two also are now encrypted. There's no message content leaking without a hacker or law enforcement getting direct access to your device. It's inherently harder to get into someones texts with how many different layers there are between the content and a bad actor. It's why usually when mobile carriers do have a data breach, it's almost always only your info you used to setup your account with them and not the content of your texts or recorded phone calls because they generally just don't have them anymore. There's multiple accounts to bypass, SIM card activations, physical access needed usually, etc, etc. Meanwhile, ChatGPT is not encrypting anything you input into it and anything they have could leak tomorrow either due to some intern hitting the wrong button or by them being targeted by North Korean hackers or whatever else. Let alone law enforcement/subpoena where they're compelled to hand over preserved chat log content and not just metadata. It's already happened actually https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/11/oddest-chatgpt-leaks-yet-cringey-chat-logs-found-in-google-analytics-tool/ A misconfigured Share feature led to private chat logs of users to be leaked and scraped by Google Search and be publicly accessible. So yeah it's just, not the same level at all. Especially when all these AI companies are still in "move fast, break things, make money at all costs so we don't cause another Dot Com Crash, apologize and settle out of court later if needed" mode and more or less are completely unregulated still. The notion that the ship has sailed already isn't true and that sentiment is how they make us be ok with them encroaching on us more, but there are multiple ships in the dock and some of them haven't gone anywhere yet till we let them.

I've mainly used any of the 3 main payment apps in the U.S. (CashApp, Venmo, or Zelle). Have also used cash before or when requested but same as Pensant said, i use BoA and their ATMs dispense $100 bills (and i was never a big enough spender to need more than a few of those $100s either), so that's never really been an issue either luckily. Yeah i'll never fully understand why Venmo took off when that was it's only differentiating feature. CashApp should have the popularity/wide spread use that Venmo does in my opinion. CashApp is so straight forward and no non-sense. Going off of this. I do wonder sometimes what clients/providers would do as financial surveillance increases. We're already barreling toward a cashless society while at the same time seeing the further digitization of money with how crypto and stable-coins are attempting to be implemented into the financial system. There are privacy focused crypto coins out there that are largely untraceable. Signal app, and i'm sure other encrypted messaging apps, has a privacy coin for example you can send back and forth to other users. But that obviously has a technical hurdle/learning curve to it. Maybe we go back to bartering 😆

Agreed. I actually find height makes many positions difficult, or at the very least, need to be done differently to still work/reach what you need to depending on what heights are involved. All can be worked around, but in my opinion it's definitely not all the same once horizontal as the saying goes.

It's not really that black and white anymore. Unless the guy is an actual certified massage therapist, there's just a ton of gray area and crossover between masseurs who also "go further" and only charge masseur rate and escorts who do massage as foreplay for escort rate. There are guys who do full massage with escort fun at the end for masseur prices, vice versa, and everything in between. But yes, communicate with the provider and make sure you're on the same page with them about what you're doing and the rate. My recommendation for OP is MikeChris/Piko though: https://rentmasseur.com/MikeChris

To add on to these comments. I definitely think there's a certain amount of mutually assured destruction behind why they don't truly crack down on this hobby/profession the way they could if they really wanted to in the U.S. In addition to the resource management, practicality, and crime priority level aspect of it. A not insignificant amount of cops, politicians, and high profile/high power people also are clients. Some of whom are fairly known in an "open secret" kind of way in some circles. If they really tried to come down on this with indiscriminate full force, they wouldn't be able to protect the massive amount of themselves/each other who also engage in this and they'd be at high risk of exposing themselves and people having their secrets get out. And i think that is part of why they tend to mostly go after this in such a targeted manner mainly when it serves other purposes like the reasons Soloyo215 listed. I think the powers that be would love to have the law be the same as how it is in the U.K., but because of how the U.S. has been culturally for so long it'll effectively be impossible to ever pass any true State or National level legalization for a long time.

Maybe, but i don't think it'd go as far as suggested. I could see it maybe screening initial inquiries if a provider so chooses. But if i was a provider, i personally would still want to have viable client candidates given to me by the AI and give the final ok on which one i take and when for myself. I just would want it to weed out time wasters or incompatible clients. I wouldn't want it accepting meets and booking my calendar for me. As someone who's tried implementing AI into my job and found a lot of it's limitations and where it falls short of the over hype/marketing. There's things it's just not ready for yet and it still needs lots of hand-holding and double checking it's work. AI/LLMs (Large Language Models) despite all the marketing, are not sentient, aren't aware of what they say to you, will spit out incorrect information confidently, and AI agents have done things like accidentally delete a users hard drive and other dumb stuff. When it comes to reply delays. I kind of see it like when people text you and don't get a response, so then they call you thinking that will make you pick up and it's like, if I'm not available to reply to a text I'm also not available to answer a call haha. But like in the scenario a provider is busy working and can't give the final ok to a meet the AI setup and passed along. There's still going to be a delay till the provider gets back to their computer/phone or whatever to give the final ok. Both clients and providers really need to just accept that people aren't staring at their inbox or obligated to be reachable 24/7 and get over it, in my opinion 😆. Another big issue AI use in this raises is discretion/privacy. Unless the provider is using their own self hosted implementation of an open source AI. Things like ChatGPT are logging everything you input to it and sending it home to OpenAI for further training model use (some AI platforms claim to let you opt out of this, but do they really with how this space currently has zero regulation, no one actually knows). Things you put into ChatGPT are held in record and can be used against you in court for example. And in places where what we all engage in here isn't exactly legal, it'd be very not smart to use AIs in this way unless you setup a private one. Which the average person wouldn't know how to do and would just default to ChatGPT. We already can't even get everyone who does this to use encrypted messaging apps like Signal as is 🤣

Yeah i think that rule will have a huge impact. There's more details to that 5 years of social media history thing too. It's not just social media history. They're also proposing requiring "the gathering of an applicant's telephone numbers and email addresses used over the last five and 10 years respectively" and similar information about their immediate family members... It's in a 60 day public comment period, but if it's enacted as originally proposed it will have a devastating impact on tourism (and thus providers who may want to come to the US from elsewhere). https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1dz0g2ykpeo

Yes, they do. Do some stings and arrests happen? Sure, but it still is not a top priority for police the way murders and assaults or robberies are. Finding one random recent case of a sting operation doesn't change anything said above. Every now and then some local precinct will have a quota to hit and they'll do something like that and they do what they gotta do. And then they go right back to mostly ignoring it.

It's the rise of hot guys with big social media followings and OnlyFans over the last 10ish years, yeah. Sex work is the next logical step and/or next logical side hustle for many of them.

I used to have a provider i hired regularly who had a 9-5. I also work during the day. We'd always meet sometime between 9pm and midnight on weekdays, or any time on a weekend. Was never a problem.

If it were me, i'd personally go to a big city like New York City, New York. Los Angeles, California. San Francisco, California. Austin, Texas and such. Big cities usually have plenty of people who don't celebrate/travel back to their home towns for the holidays. So should be plenty of people who would hire. Big cities never sleep. But also you probably could still do well in a small city too. Lot of people who may fly to their home towns for the holidays also may be the people who want to sneak away and hire for a bit to get away from dealing with family drama/stress that naturally comes with the holiday season for many. And if you just are thinking of stuff to do on your own. Big cities i feel have better holiday festivities. Like Orlando, Florida and Los Angeles, California both have a Universal Studios theme park and both have a Disney World/Disney Land (respectively) theme park that are Christmas/holiday themed at this time of year if you're into that kind of thing.

It's definitely a more mainstream thing now. It has a lot to do with Gen Z guys being much more likely to have porn addictions these days. Gen Z guys make jokes about (because they do it in their private time for real) what they now call "gooning", which is just their new slang term for edging (though there technically is supposed to be a difference where gooning is endless teasing with no intent to orgasm and edging is prolonged play that ultimately still ends in orgasm, but young guys largely use the terms interchangeably). So the rise in popularity of edging is due to that, plus like OP said, it's easy fairly low effort OF content anyone can do and is content guys who otherwise maybe wouldn't do OF with their face shown can get into and have it be a thing they do on the side for fun or for pay (either as the guy doing the edging or the guy getting edged, the latter of which is also very easy entry for gay4pay straight guys). All of this has always been the case, the porn studios have always had edging content. It's just that much more mainstream and democratized now because of OF, Twitter, and Instagram/TikTok memes referencing it.

Other than RentMen and RentMasseur, the main place i see people advertise is Grindr, Sniffies, and even Tinder.

Best thing people can do for these is be on Doxy Pep, which usually comes with a PrEP prescription now. It will lessen chances of getting Gonorrhea, Chlamydia, and Syphilis by 50-80%. In terms of antibiotic resistance to those. It is a concern in the medical community, but some antibiotics still work, but the needed dose is increasing. We are not in a situation currently where we have no defense/treatment. With Doxy Pep, it still means less overall cases and new cases getting caught and treated sooner because access to Doxy Pep/PrEP requires testing every 3 months at least. Herpes can be managed with anti-viral treatments that lessen outbreaks and transmission. Warts are tied to HPV, which most people are vaccinated for (and if you aren't that's something that can be done at a pharmacy pretty easily. We can "well what about _______" all day, but ultimately all we can do is mitigate risk best we can, and via modern medicine we can do a great deal. If your goal is to never catch anything ever, the only true solution is abstinence (lol).

It depends. Not everyone would mention that kind of thing in their review the way you would unfortunately, because not everyone would consider that a dealbreaker or worth a star deduction, just something worth knowing. The one who told me about the messy apartment of a provider they otherwise had a great time with only told me in DM and not in their public review. That's why i reach out for the actual story. Some questions are things a provider may not be forthcoming with too. Like if you ask a provider "hey is your room clean", they're not going to answer "it's a fuckin' mess bro" ya know? That's why it's good to get multiple anecdotes and kind of average it together to help make your decision about hiring.

I think you're being a little needlessly difficult/not helpful with your response to people reaching out to you, with all due respect. I've reached out to people who have left positive and negative reviews. You don't necessarily have to give the blow by blow of every act you did with the provider, but sometimes people just want confirmation of how it went and what it was actually like to interact with the provider because "the pics were real and i had a good time" doesn't really tell you much about the actual experience. When i reach out to people i want to know how easy was it to set up the meet, was the place they hosted in nice or in a good area with parking (i once was told by a fellow client a very well reviewed provider was great in bed but his apartment was a pig stye, which was not listed in the 5 star review). There are all these intangibles to the experience (even if it's a good one) that no one is actually putting into their reviews and that's what they're actually asking you for. Seems like a silly thing to be annoyed by, especially when you said you still do the same thing but only to people who left negative reviews.

Agreed. I've used both. @Reggyreg56 The issues others have pointed out can be true for RM reviews, but there are other scenarios where you do need the RM reviews. For one, not every user on RM is on this forum and not every provider on RM has been reviewed on this forum. There inherently are gaps in review coverage just by the sheer disparity in the amount of overall clients using RM versus how many clients are also members of this forum. RM reviews can be perfectly usable by looking at the details others in the thread have mentioned like checking how old other reviewers/clients profiles are, if they made their profile around the same time as when the provider did, if the reviewers all left reviews in the same week a provider for example or if their only review is the provider you are considering and they don't have a record of reviewing other providers over a period of time. I've also messaged fellow clients on RM the same way I'd post a 411 thread or DM a user here to ask about a provider and that's worked out well for me. You can usually tell by how/if they reply if they're fake or not. Exclusively using the reviews here and ignoring all RM reviews drastically shrinks your own provider choices on RM because plenty of good providers have not been reviewed here yet, so sometimes you just need to take the chance yourself. Especially if you like a type of guy/provider that isn't the usual type most on this forum go for or it's a provider who simply isn't paying the Premium/Gold/Platinum subscription and thus just doesn't have as many eyes on their profile. Then you're even more less likely to find reviews for those guys here. About half of my past hires have been guys with no reviews on this forum and all but one of those were a good experience because i used due diligence with what was available on RM. You can make it work for you, it just takes more work and precaution. I've noticed a lot of the RM reviews are often being left by people where English isn't their first language, especially for providers who are multi-lingual. And it contributes to some of their reviews sounding fishy or weird. It's not that they're AI or fake, it's that they're trying to be complimentary in a second or third language while also not being overly descriptive of the encounter because both RM sites try to implore reviewers not to be too explicit in reviews (which some people ignore) because they're still trying to keep some guise of this not being what it is. I say all this to say, yes don't take every RM review at face value, but they can still be useful if you know how to parse them correctly. The "don't trust RM reviews ever because it's all bots/AI" is a tad bit of an over simplification. This forum has no better defenses against AI/bots or providers setting up fake accounts than RM does, if we're being realistic (it's even less considering we don't have to pay to make accounts here like you do on RM to be able to leave a review), so it's just good to be cautious and more discerning all around.

1,000%. It's a mindset, not an age range. Soooo true. I've noticed this on hookup/dating apps, and even here. Just a lot of "no this, not that, don't look like that, don't act like this!" rather than "i like this this and that". The latter is both usually a shorter list and actually communicates to the target demographic you're trying to reach, where as the "no this, no that" list just makes someone come off like an unpleasant person to be around. @Mark_fl's comment, hopefully inadvertently, really makes him come off like a prude who has a lot of judgements about people who are sexually free (Which likely isn't the case, but that's how it reads), versus someone who simply appreciates subdued/subtle sexual aura. Go for it man. Literally no one said you can't or aren't allowed to spend your money how you like. But that doesn't change that i think it's a "Boomer" (this is a mindset more so than an age range) thing to be put off by and you have the right to do that, but i retain my right to poke fun at you for it 🤷‍♂️.

The people this thread is resonating with are basically doing the equivalent of saying they have a specific type of hair and are looking for stylists who can work with that hair type, and your response is basically "stop complaining and shave your head". You sound like an absolute buffoon.

I first started hiring just over a year ago. It was something i had been thinking about for a while but never went through with. During the first week of November 2024 I was over stressed, over worked, under sexed, and wanted to treat myself to something nice. I dove into the deep end and hired 3 guys for a 6 hand massage for my very first hire. I didn't know about this forum or know anyone to ask how this worked at the time, so i was truly going in fully blind. I was terrified walking up to the AirBnB thinking "I'm either going to have the best time ever or this is fake and I'm about to get arrested/kidnapped/killed", luckily it was the former! I went a little crazy with it and saw those 3 guys 2 more times that same week before they left town 😆.

I've been on hiring break for a couple weeks. But prior to that i hadn't noticed any issues. The providers who are good had still been good and the ones who weren't good either stayed not good or eventually got better once they figured out how this works. I hadn't noticed or experienced any broader shift in how providers treat us personally. The customer is definitely not always right though lol.

"I never do X or Y with anyone but you/a select few" is 1,000% what he's telling his other clients too. It's part of the job/performance. I figured this out myself with a past provider who also was really good at making me feel good (I've also had a provider do extras at no extra cost, he just does flat rate to undercut the competition and it wasn't a special offer/exception for me specifically). This isn't a bad thing though, it's ok to let it make you feel good, that's ultimately what you're paying for! Just don't let yourself get carried away with it and think it's real outside of the business arrangement. In my opinion. You kind of have to treat it like actors acting in a movie. A method actor who is filming a scene, between "Action" and "Cut", what they/their character is feeling is "real". But once the filming is done, they are back in the real world and are no longer the character or feeling what the character is feeling. That's kind of how I've learned to see it personally. They definitely can, but i think it's pretty much always in the same way that you might develop a good rapport with your favorite barista at Starbucks, and almost never in terms of them wanting to be friends/date you outside of work. The barista might be extra courteous to you or give you an extra pump of syrup in your drink as a show of appreciation for being a cool customer, but it's not going to extend beyond that context.

I've hada slightly similar experience in the past. A masseur quoted me 180/hr or 225/90 minutes. I never go to masseurs expecting or demanding extras but i have asked and it's obviously their choice to say yes/no or play coy till they meet me and decide during the session. He said yes and that there was no extra cost for them. This agreement was made before he saw me, so me being hot or not was not a factor. That's just the default service he provides. He's also from another country but immigrated to the U.S. a few years ago and i've heard the norms/expectations of what masseurs provide are different in other countries. So i assumed it was a cultural difference. But yeah to @ProudWhore's point, experiences like these may taint the expectations of other clients. At the end of the day, this industry has no regulations and every one conducts their business differently. Which means there's no one set of "correct" expectations clients will have.

Hmmm, maybe it's a location/city thing? Depending on what your definition of All American is, i feel like there's plenty of those guys providing.

Yeah there are plenty, you just have to go beyond RMs front page which is just all the biggest dick having-est body builder gods who pay to get boosted on the front page. If you use the search and set the dick size setting, or whatever else. You can find exactly what you're looking for long as guys like that are in your area (this is a factor you can't really do much about though).