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It sounds like a common case of 2 people who are together, but have not made the mutual agreement to enter into an open relationship, but should. The story seems to be more coincidental rather than a breach of saftey. Sure, I can see the possibility of it being a vulnerable situation, but ultimately it’s up to the two parties that are in a relationship, to sort out whatever breach of fidelity that may have been made. That said, it is an incomfortable situation regardless...and I don’t think it was the client/partner’s place to alert you to that (but then again, sometimes I wonder why once in blue a perfectly good regular will drop off and never be heard from again...it makes one wonder what could have been the reason).
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Ever been pulled over out of town? How to respond:
Mocha replied to Mocha's topic in Questions About Hiring
You have to understand: they don’t give options. The only options were: step outside while I run your information. That’s not an invitation. Then, after a few minutes, out of nowhere another pulls up with a K-9 dog. Things just went downhill from there. I just told them I didn’t consent. But as usual, nothing turned up. And this was a full scale search. Once again, making shit look like a crime scene when in reality it was NOTHING. Just some bogus lane change warning AFTER following me for like 3 miles to find something that I could do wrong . Then I drove off...and went on my way. But lost an hour of my time. If my 2 appointments hadn’t already cancelled on me today, they would of considering how much time I lost over this bullshit. I seen online that area in Oklahoma on i40 is “a checkpoint” for drug trafficking. Maybe @Shawn Monroe can add to that? But I’ve been traveling thru Oklahoma since 2009 and never been stopped once. I think some of this is the works of the Trump administration, it didn’t used to happen this often. And it’s not like I have any prior stuff on my record for drugs nor I am on any type of bond/probation. I’m just a guy driving a car with out of area plate and it’s not like I have any prior stuff on my record for drugs nor I am on any type of bond/probation. I’m just a basic guy driving but who just happens to have ties in 3 different states. I have met a lot of older clients who have ties in different states as well, One lived in Michigan and Florida, so he likely had a drivers license from one state and a license plate from another at different times. but I don’t always hear about it being a red flag for them. But I guess if you’re not a dentis lawyer or some other type high paying professional, it just looks weird. But it’s safe to say, they didn’t seem to mind my gay porn dvds that I occasionally watch before going into a session. lol. -
Ever been pulled over out of town? How to respond:
Mocha replied to Mocha's topic in Questions About Hiring
But I am still traveling though. Han Solo. Michael Knight. There’s not much options to do it any other way for his trip. -
Ever been pulled over out of town? How to respond:
Mocha replied to Mocha's topic in Questions About Hiring
Well congratulations, it happened again. I-40 west. I told them there’s nothing to be found, but if they wanted to waste an hour of time searching...Go ahead now, I’ll do mine later. I want to say I’m done with roadtrips, I’m just going to stick with flying. But even then...going thru TSA is the conveyor belt equivalent of a traffic stop. It’s like one of the male porn stars on Twitter who’s sex toys were exposed in the TSA line. It’s just a fucked up society we live in. Shit makes you want to leave because living in so much fear and anxiety. At the same time theres nothing to be scared of. They ask what I do? I’m a traveling male stripper. Here’s my card... I’m convinced if you’re not some white family with kids like the movie “we’re the millers”, there’s always going to be some suspicion when traveling alone. -
Sometimes it’s not even good trip or bad trip. Sometimes its a factor of people not being able to make shit work. In the last 24 hours, I’ve had 3 cancellations and looks like 1 more is about to fall thru too. Only 1 appointment so far, which I caught last minute to make up for the first 2. It’s like if you can’t meet a client in exactly the time window they have available, all bets are off. Even though I’m arriving with the whole evening available in one of my locations, its appaarently still going to be too late for a couple of people because they want to meet before 5 but I don’t get in until after 5. Then, the other day’s cancelled reasons included “fell asleep waiting for my kids to go to sleep”, and “came into the office and it was a shitstorm”, so cant make today work. It makes me think once again of changing how I travel. The money can be lucrative, but every now and again there’s a client or 2 who has to cancel because they have other stuff going on. There’s a part of this business that’s just not reliable enough to make plans for anything outside of “now” and “today”. And when traveling, I hate when the first client of the trip has to cancel, because that’s the jump off. People want to meet when it’s convenient for them, but in reality they need to meet when it’s convenient for the provider too, otherwise it’s not going to work. Comparing sex to pizza, you can’t just have a craving for pizza at any time and expect to get it. You may want pizza at 10 am. Or 2 am. But you still have to go by their available hours.
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More of a reason to stick with and only hire guys over the age of 18 lol. But you know what, we well reviewed escorts had to start from somewhere right? People need to stop applying these articles to places where they shouldn’t. People end up unnecessarily paranoid and freaked out, and they’re not understanding the differences. Let’s be practical: “Freedom Signal has one chatbot that mentions that she is 15 — and men went there anyway. Mr. Beiser said that the usual rate of completing a conversation — agreeing on a specific sex act and price — is 40 to 50 percent. The underage bot’s rate is 25 to 30 percent. Men told the fake 15-year-old “fine with me,” or “I’ll treat you right,” and sent kiss emojis.” They keep mentioning in the article trafficking and underaged kids. They’re simply going about it in a bad way by using the word “prostitution”, therefore throwing dirt and shame on the mere word, versus what they should be saying: you a grown ass man, yhaving underaged sex with a 15 y/o is illegal. I still recall the time I went to Canada, and before I could get in. my entire laptop was went thru, along with all my pictures and ads. No charges were filed, but I was scared for months. Now: if those pictures were child pornography, or if I had a woman escort/girlfriend traveling with me...most likely I’d of gone straight under. It just goes to show. Now, I can’t say every situation would be the same outcome, but for the most part as I said: this whole war on prostitution is not on prostitution itself, but for trafficking. The reason why it’s still not accepted, is because the laws are so afraid that it’ll be a license to allow more individuals to be trafficked. The United States is too big of a country to allow these to go unchecked. Therefore, they rather just outlaw it all together.
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I’m sure it’s not impossible. I’d just have to see it for myself. Maybe they said they “could of” or “would of”. But if we’ve learned anything from Jussie S., and what happens when you say a sentence to 1 person, and pass it from one person to another, people can certainly say things to “create” an image. It’s like whole verse, “genitals like donkeys and emissions of horses”.
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Every city has become a foodie town it seems. I’d be curious about the gay venues though. Whether it’s more or less than Nashville. Nashville has a gay strip area, but of all the cities I lived in, Nashville had the most watered down gay bar scene. At one point I was going out every weekend, but it always had a high school dance factor to it, and there was a noticeable clique/in mentality to it. Trying to meet anyone outside of that, you could only do if you had someone else with you. I never understood it: people would never talk to me when I was out on my own, but soon as I roll up with someone, they wanted to compete for my attention. And most times, it would end up throwing off the vibe with the person I was out with. However, as an exception there are certain cities I look forward to doing gay venues in.
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It does help to gather acquaintance, or canvas as you say. However, I just don’t feed into too much of the “someone said, someone made”... If someone is saying they made $4,000 in 4 days, even with an overnight, that’s a lot of “activity”. That would also equate to 4 clients a day, for 4 days straight, at $250 each. It just doesn’t sound realistic. I can say there’s been cities I’ve gone to and had atleast 1 visit every day over the course of a week’s visit (Denver was one of them, before the market went to shit...it would never happen now), but even that’s not $4,000 worth of clients. Perhaps “they” made $4G doing other things, but I can’t imagine it would be all from appointments UNLESS they happened to have the right ducks in a row to pull 2 or 3 overnights. But still...that’s a lot of work.
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Well, perhaps the escort could be your treat...but perhaps you could do other things the other weeks. I broke my “down” week spell by having a couple of visitors this week. I’m noticing Kansas City is one of those places you’ve really got to post up in for awhile in order to “get in”. Sometimes you need those boring and quiet days to be creative, relax, etc. I just don’t think people understand sometimes how hard it is to be a single, GBM, who’s not already connected to a scene or community. And it’s crazy how many clients I’ve come across who are living a straight lifestyle. It makes me “feel” that there’s more guys open to another man out there than I realize, but the fact is...that’s not how it’s happening in day to day life.
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That’s a good point. I struggle with some morning depression, though I’ve not been diagnosed per say. I sleep well at night, but mornings are rough. I find sleeping next to someone to help, but I’ve gotten to where I just don’t enjoy morning sex anymore. Matter of fact, it’s not that I don’t like morning sex, but I don’t know how some of these guys my age stay up having sex into 3 and 4 am, and then want it again in the morning. I can’t. I be half dead until about 10:30 am. I can do overnight sessions, but I always try to make it clear that I’m not going to feel sexual at 6, 7, 8 or 9 in the morning. 10 is the absolute earliest, but unless someone wants to come to my hotel before checkout, I don’t even see clients anymore before about noon.
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That’s all me. If I happened to be in Michigan or Chicago, I’d be the crazy one to say: meet me in Detroit, gimme a couple $$, we can split lodging/work along the way, and then you can do a 1 way back to Toronto lol. Similar to what the Jersey Shore cast did when they drove from New York to Miami. But honestly though...if someone really wanted to, a ride along could be fun. It would obviously just take a bit of planning. I’ve done it a couple times before with non-escort guys. It’s great companionship, and there’s not as much stepping on toes as it would seem.
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As many as you can fit on whatever mode of transportation you’re using. For me, there must be no space in my trunk. Whenever I fly, my bag usually passes the under 50 lb. by 0.5 to 1 pound. Sometimes I wonder if I have some OCD. I see all the other business men in hotels carrying only 2 small bags and suit and tie. I can imagine they’re probably just traveling for a couple of days, but sometimes I feel embarrassed to be the 1 person packing a month’s worth of stuff. At the same time, though I carry a lot, I keep it organized. Some guy’s my age keep their car looking like a dorm room. I also pack for where if I need to stay at a downtown hotel and avoid parking/valet, I can easily roll everything up so nothing is left in the car.
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That is right. The rain chances for Friday goes back and forth, but not the rest of the weekend. It’s just a Florida thing to mind the weather. In Florida if you don’t get to Disney world, or the beach, or the pool party by 2 pm, forget about that sun tan. I was catering a nude pool party in Orlando last year for Labor Day. It did it’s usual get up to 95 degrees ideal pool weather, then it just started pouring down. I know I mentioned in the past perhaps doing a weekend event in Florida, but that was more for the “reunion homes” that can room 20-40 guests. However, unless it’s dry season, any kind of outdoor activities are likely to get washed out.
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True...But being he’s from Toronto though, it could be harder. It’s probably not a quick jump up and go kinda thing for everyone. Also, despite me being a travel warrior, some of us just can’t do planes. I flew only twice last year (1 way, just so I could get back to my car), which is a lot for me. Planes and airports are just a highly stressful thing for me and I end up not enjoying my vacation. Of course I’m sure some people feel that way about driving and traffic.
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What does it mean for you? And I’m not just talking about business/clients...but just in general. Friendships. Sex. Mood. Clients. I’m probably talking from a place of boredom considering I’m not in travel mode right now. And I know I have to do something more long term about my Kansas City situation which is not working for me at all. But the “bad” weeks just seem to come out of nowhere. An example of a good week for me (something I had for like 3 weeks in a row recently) is meeting someone new outside of work (or for a second or third time), having an enjoyable time together-perhaps a date and sex. Sweeten the deal by having a few clients in that week. A bad week tends to be one where outside of work, the guys who were available suddenly aren’t, and trying to find anyone new isn’t working. That’s not speaking clients, but personally. But with clients, one is out of town, then 2 cancel, and the other 2 you can’t catch because the logistics don’t work. I try not to put too much reasoning to these things, but sometimes it does feel like there’s nothing I can do about it when it does happen...except ride it out and wait for the next week. Which 99% of the time usually means LEAVING the city that’s causing the results. There are times when I find myself going thru hell in a particular area, and when I leave that area to go elsewhere, things immediately improve. What ya think?
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I’m going thru the exact same thing... ...just wish he didn’t allow his sister and overprotective husband to have their hands in his affairs after he left.
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working in a city with very low competition
Mocha replied to redites's topic in Questions About Hiring
Really? Are you checking the 3rd party sites also? Well it must be the timing. I went between in between 2 big holidays...and I could have stayed anywhere I wanted for $70/$80. I was like wow, I never seen Chicago hotels that cheap. Florida hotels are up now, but they go down between June and September. Summer/Hurricane season. Seattle and Denver are both places that raise hotel prices simply because they know people are homeless. -
working in a city with very low competition
Mocha replied to redites's topic in Questions About Hiring
Sometimes the bigger the market, the cheaper the rates...and vice versa. However, the smaller the market, the overall pay factor can be lower. Its like hotels: it’s crazy how Las Vegas, Orlando or Dallas have hotels going for $30 a night (not that they’re all worth staying at lol). Yet in the little podunk towns, hotels are consistently $50/60/90 a night. I don’t mind doing a hotel in the little podunk town I’m in, just to do freebie hookup...but it’s like $60/70 a night. Not expensive by any stretch, but when you’re trying to meet guys throughout the week and not getting paid for it, it adds up. And these guys are too cheap to get a hotel for their hookups...non of them can really host. I spend most of my month traveling, so I have a reason to be cheap lol. -
In case anyone is curious of weather: https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/USCA0828:1:US Now: when I checked my iPhone weather app Thursday night, it showed a prediction of rain on Sunday. I checked again Friday morning, it shows 0% chance. But it does seem to point having some rain Friday. Even with that, it’s likely not going to be a factor. It does show it to be hot this weekend, but not as hot next weekend. Which is probably a good thing, as I can remember some times being in that area and it being close to or exceeding 100 degrees. It doesn’t feel as bad unless you have on clothes. It’s not a Texas or Florida 100 degrees, which is unbearable.
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Good point. Especially considering many areas in the Midwest/North are still void of much green life. There’s been some grass growing and flowers popping out, but nothing in full bloom.
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working in a city with very low competition
Mocha replied to redites's topic in Questions About Hiring
Amen to that! The Deep South has never been a consistent hit for me. It even used to be that Nashville was a fairly decent market a few years ago, now that place is fierce...with BS, and catching up with the ATL state of mind. And even though there’s money there, most is concentrated either downtown or the areas to the south on 65. The rest reeks of poverty. I was all too happy to leave back in 2017...but I still make visits there occasionally. Each time varies. Sometimes it’s good, other times it’s dead. The presence of Grindr continues to trouble that market, but the ridding of craigslist and backpage has slightly improved it. As the case for many cities in the country. As for repressed markets: I just don’t understand it. What’s kinda sad is the fact that there’s some small towns outside of repressed cities, that aren’t just repressed, but have 0 advertising gay people on any site. No kidding, the area I’m in right now South of Kansas City has 0 people on Adam (it’s actually not even an option), and 0 people on Grindr. The closest gay person on any website is usually like 22 miles away. And I can forget about meeting any clients out this way, I have to travel an hour north to Kansas City anytime I get a client. Needless to say, it’s a temporary situation that I only need to do for about 1 to 3 weeks at a time since I’m always traveling country. Yet, I go to the gyms in this area...there’s one hot guy after the next. Back to back. I’m like, how it is that non of these guys are on any gay platform? It just goes to show the overall gay “scene” is still pretty much invisible in all but the largest of cities. Then, when you finally do meet a gay person in such areas, they’re often half-closeted, and only use gay guys for sex. That’s why I said before sites like Grindr are sleazy. It’s not Grindr itself that’s sleazy, it’s the way people use it that makes it sleazy. At the same time, what can one do? It wouldn’t make any sense if apps werent sleazy. Anytime I meet a guy at the gym, he’s talking about his “girlfriend”. Well shit, where else am I supposed to get some from? It’s hard enough to find even a guy who’s gay, so when I do...most likely we’re going to fuck. The issue comes when gay guys can’t see beyond that. It grates my nerves when I meet a guy and hit it off a couple of times, but anytime they have plans to do outside of sex, there’s never any inclusion. That when it becomes evident that they’re still repressed, and can only define gay in the capacity of sex and nothing else. -
Interpretation, my friend. It’s all in the interpretation. I never said anything about clients stiffing me, I never used the word ghost, or rude or shared anything about my regulars. So not sure where you’re getting off that any of these things are taking place. I was simply saying in GENERAL. Also, the example I gave was from a now retired provider. All I was saying, was that I didn’t agree with “counting money a few hours later” and “letting time go by unchecked”...which is the reason why “you have regulars for years”. If they like you...that’s why you’ve had them for years. Not necessarily because of what you mentioned. All I was saying is, you can have good regulars and still have order in your business. I don’t think you have order because if you did, you wouldn’t be saying: thats why I'm never a clock watcher and spend way more time than what people hire for That tells me you’re working overtime and not getting paid. That’s not a good biz model. That’s what crappy companies do to employees to save money. You’re in biz for yourself, you have the power to not sell yourself short. My 90 min and 2 hour sessions are some of my best selling time slots. If I only charged an hour and let people stay 2, 3 hours longer (not saying you are, just saying in general), I’d be cheating myself. And what kind of people I’m seeing? The same people who are seeing you for the same reason! People who are looking to pay a provider for a good time. You make it sound like I’m pulling clients out of a dark alley or something. You can make a point, but just don’t talk down to me in the process. I don’t respond well to that. For one...I’m not any less of a provider than you are, and trust me I’ve been in this game a long time, longer than you. I can assure you I’ve gone more places outside of New York too and met clients. Therefore, my business encounters are going to be more extensive than yours because I have more overall experience than you do. But one thing for sure, I don’t need to be “schooled” on how to handle clients. Nobody is stiffing or ghosting me on a regular basis. Otherwise I wouldn’t be so busy all the time and need to take 2 weeks off every month or 2.
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You justified everything perfectly, but all in all, I guess, “it varies” ☝? Me personally: I actually don’t like getting my whole rate before meeting a client, because I prefer not to spend before I get. So by no means am I condoning getting an entire fee upfront.
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Speaking of vacation, are you not attending the vacation that everyone is talking about? That could be a good way to get a gist (or jism) of what it’s like having the type of scene you’re looking to go for.
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