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Why someone admits they do it and why they actually do are two different things. And it's not like they can't get any other type of job. But the ones with overt contempt for clients, especially if they don't behave exactly as the provider wants, are clearly in this for the money. Either not skilled enough to get it another way, or too lazy to work a 40 hour week of taxing labor. I'm sure there are many, as you suggest that enjoy the work, much like a massage therapist without extras would. Providing a good service to an appreciative customer can be its own reward. But that doesn't change paragraph 1.

I've been asked to leave a RM review, but unfortunately I'm not a paid member, so I can't. Silly that a verified ID with a long membership can't leave a review. It's really a disservice to both providers and potential clients, but I guess they figure they can squeeze out a few more bucks that way.

So whenever he tries to talk, put something in his mouth.

Also the logic of assuming someone CAN afford the additional $50 is flawed. Using that logic, we can all afford a million an hour. After all, if someone who says that $350 is all they can afford can 'really' afford $400, the same logic means they can 'really' afford $450 and so on. It never ends. Can I afford a gallon of milk that costs $60? I'd say no. Even if I can afford a $200 massage.

Very strange. I had no such issues when I saw him early in the year. I only pay cash, and he had no problem. He even spent the night and got paid in the morning. I don't know if I just gave a legitimate vibe, he got burned in the past, or something about you concerned him, but I will say he was very responsive when I texted him that day as well. Financial situations change, and I certainly don't know him personally, but I was very glad I spent time with him.

I disagree about the client thinking less of you. Recently I had a nice massage at a fair, but little higher rate than I liked. When returning, I asked about the cost for a little extra, and was given a rate I'm not comfortable spending. Honestly I'd rather have 2 massages instead, and said I'd stick with just the massage. He then offered me a little discount for the add-ons I wanted. Maybe he needed a little money to travel with. Maybe he liked me. Maybe he just thought I would pay the first rate, but I thought it was great that he did that for me, and we had a great session. I couldn't recommend him more highly, and now that I know what that session was like, I may very well opt for it again at his original price. I think much more of him than if he simply said, good luck.

I don't negotiate, but I've been known to say something like: "Thank you for your response. I'm sure you're worth it, but that's out of my price range." That's all. If they want to make another offer, great, but I haven't insulted anyone, and would expect full service should they make another offer.

He might have just blocked her out. She was great in League of Their Own, but personally she makes my skin crawl.

You are quite fortunate.

Sorry, need to add this. There is NO reason to post a headless ad if there is no sexual aspect to the massage. None. And a legitimate massage should run you about $100, not 2 or 3. Scam city from start to non-finish. Not a nice guy.

I like it because it is appropriately vague, as every interaction is different, and sex isn't even always an option. Is a sensual massage sex work? To some, probably. Others, maybe not. What if someone is just hired for companionship or a dinner date. That surely isn't sex work. 'Provider' just covers all the bases. In all instances, they are providing a service.

Not as much as you think. And have you ever heard them say "whom" instead of "who" when they answer? I haven't.

I don’t see why it's much different than our posting the link. As a matter of fact, a board where providers who are present here could advertise might be a great thing. Ones who stick around and handle their feedback (positive or negative) professionally would become legends here and quite popular.

The objection to calling service providers, providers amuses me, as the actual description of this board mentions them.

I don't think a customer service job exists where the employee is nearly as happy dealing with the customer as they sound like they are. "Who do I have the pleasure of speaking with today?" ring a bell?

Some providers need to visit Orlando more often. 😉

Isn't the misguided illusion what we're paying for? 😜

It seems clear to me that there are two kinds of providers. By choice and by necessity. 1) Enjoys people and likes what they do (several of whom we see on these boards), or enjoys the extra money this side hustle provides, and doesn't dislike the work or the customers. 2) Those who have to do this because of a drug habit, or lack of skills or intelligence to make it in the "legitimate" business world. These you will hear about like the provider referenced here, or even on this site when you feel the contempt certain providers have for clients. It's human to feel sympathy for the latter group, but don't hire them. Just give them a donation if you must. It will save you the disappointment.

I have enough stress finding one guy I'm comfortable with. Even if there were two guys I both liked, I'm more into a one on one connection. But I do think it would be wise to let the guy you know you like find a third he knows. Then neither of you would have to worry about them as much.

The defense rests.

Anyone else see the irony in turning down people based on appearance and claiming a basis in humanity? I'm glad this provider has happy customers. Good for both of them. But I can tell from the communication style of demanding a dissatisfied client post a photo to prove himself and photo requirements of potential clients before agrreing to meet them, that this one is not professional enough for me.

This is apparently a gene I don't have. Dirty talk is so far from my brain that it always would sound phony to me and kill the mood.

I get it. It's just that I understand preferences that I don't particularly like (hair, tattoos, big butt) or care about (penis size, height), but this one just puzzles me.

Several things for me: Generally touch/caress not in a manner of getting me off. Seeming to be into it and enjoying the experience as well. Talking about his life or something personal. A compliment that isn't a generic "handsome" in a text, especially when he doesn't know what I look like yet! (That just always feels weird to me). Doing something 'extra' that he thinks I'd like, not discussed beforehand. Sexually, when he let's me finish in his mouth and doesn't seem like he's just doing it because I want it, or spits it out immediately.

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