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I anticipation of a recent hiring weekend in NYC I reached out -- via text -- to a total of six gents over a couple days. My ask was "Do you expect to be in town and available on these dates?" (about two weeks from the days I was texting). In reply...
two offered no reply at all one confirmed he would be away that weekend, in an exchange was pleasant and direct and confirmed my continued interest in this provider one said he might be available but wouldn't know until a few days before, in a manner that was fine but didn't stir my further interest two (one of whom I had booked some while back) said they would definitely be available; both were friendly and flirty in their exchanges, with the new-to-me gent being unusually gregarious, funny, and responsive... In my followup exchanges with the four who did reply (including the gent who was not available), I asked "how far in advance do you prefer to book"? All four gave their answer in a way that gave me a clear vibe/impression on whether/how I wanted to proceed. With the two (including the gent I had booked previously) who confirmed that they would be available and inclined to meet, I followed up as per their preferred timeline and "penciled in" separate appointments on two different days. At which point I confirmed my interests, my general location, and their hourly. 

On the morning of the respective appointments, I followed up to confirm everything. With the gent I had booked previously, everything proceeded gratifyingly. With the new-to-me gent who was so fun and sexy via text, things didn't proceed as simply and, unfortunately (for me), he ultimately proved to be a no-show.

All of which is to say: when communicating with providers, you never know what you're gonna get. And I've learned not to put all my horny eggs (or expectations) into one basket. 

 

Even still. By your reasoning, my number is there and showing up as an issue. I don’t have many providers NOT respond. Yet…some don’t. It doesn’t reasonably hold. What seems more reasonable is that some of the providers I contact who don’t reply are not great at responding. If I rarely got a response, Mr. Number issues would make more sense. But I do largely have responses. The few who don’t respond would therefore seem like they’re not serious about consistently providing.
Sometimes the issue isn’t the client. 

I saw it at Playwrights (and have yet to see it on Broadway) but, yes, it is an extraordinary piece of theatre. And I would agree that it's by far the frontrunner for the Best Play Tony and is also a real contender for Best Original Score 

There's a place for that as well.  This is something new and different.  
As for Forbidden Broadway, it's coming back, this time to Broadway.  Expect a revolving door of theater stars guesting in the show on a nightly basis.
https://forbiddenbroadwayonbroadway.com/

I didn't spam RM advertisers. Over a series of days, I sent out a handful of brief specific queries about future availability. That is all. I was prepared to hire any or all of them for separate appointments, though -- based on prior experience -- I anticipated that only two or three would actually come through as potential actual bookings. And that proved to be the case.

You might have better a yield rate on initial queries and, if so, I suspect we'd all welcome the opportunity to learn from the wisdom of your experience.

 

I didn't spam RM advertisers. Over a series of days, I sent out a handful of brief specific queries about future availability. That is all. I was prepared to hire any or all of them for separate appointments, though -- based on prior experience -- I anticipated that only two or three would actually come through as potential actual bookings. And that proved to be the case.

You might have better a yield rate on initial queries and, if so, I suspect we'd all welcome the opportunity to learn from the wisdom of your experience.

 

Here’s my take as a masseur. I get a lot of enquiries that go nowhere (although I do respond to all enquiries!). Many potential clients appear to be just browsing and from experience I get to know the likelihood of a booking from the tone and content of their first message.
If they open with “hi” or “hey” it’s 99% certain they’ll never book. 100% certain if they open the conversation with a dick pic (in fact I lied, I don’t reply to dick pics, or ass pics etc). So if you’re getting lots of messages from clients, and perhaps you’re treating this work in a slightly casual way (as many do) and you have an Onlyfans that makes plenty in a passive income way (as many do) then how motivated are you to reply to someone who’s unlikely to turn into a client? Especially if he’s asking very open ended questions.
I find it difficult to answer a question like “can you tell me about your service?” without writing a long response including the style, content, rates, availability, experience level, location etc. Often all of that is on my profile somewhere or on my website, which the enquirer may or may not have seen. 
In those open ended questions I usually just refer the client to my website if they have questions, which might come across as dismissive but all the info is there! 
The best way to maximise chances of a reply is to approach professional looking guys (don’t be taken in by thirst trap pics), look at the spelling and grammar on his profile, look at how long he’s been around, consider the reviews, look at the quality of the pics more than the content. Then ask direct questions: Hello, I saw you in RentMasseur (or wherever ) I’d like to book for x time on y day, please let me know your availability. If he responds then you can ask other questions. 
 


 

I anticipation of a recent hiring weekend in NYC I reached out -- via text -- to a total of six gents over a couple days. My ask was "Do you expect to be in town and available on these dates?" (about two weeks from the days I was texting). In reply...
two offered no reply at all one confirmed he would be away that weekend, in an exchange was pleasant and direct and confirmed my continued interest in this provider one said he might be available but wouldn't know until a few days before, in a manner that was fine but didn't stir my further interest two (one of whom I had booked some while back) said they would definitely be available; both were friendly and flirty in their exchanges, with the new-to-me gent being unusually gregarious, funny, and responsive... In my followup exchanges with the four who did reply (including the gent who was not available), I asked "how far in advance do you prefer to book"? All four gave their answer in a way that gave me a clear vibe/impression on whether/how I wanted to proceed. With the two (including the gent I had booked previously) who confirmed that they would be available and inclined to meet, I followed up as per their preferred timeline and "penciled in" separate appointments on two different days. At which point I confirmed my interests, my general location, and their hourly. 

On the morning of the respective appointments, I followed up to confirm everything. With the gent I had booked previously, everything proceeded gratifyingly. With the new-to-me gent who was so fun and sexy via text, things didn't proceed as simply and, unfortunately (for me), he ultimately proved to be a no-show.

All of which is to say: when communicating with providers, you never know what you're gonna get. And I've learned not to put all my horny eggs (or expectations) into one basket. 

 

Another angle to consider is that some providers aren’t looking for this to be something they’re committed to or tied down to. Some guys see it as a fun way to get paid to do something sexual that they could likely do for free just as easily. It’s not about the money for them.
Escorting and massage aren’t the primary sources of income for all these guys. Some are in porn. OF. Some have “regular” jobs. Some are too immature to be reliable communicators. There is a host of possible reasons why a guy doesn’t reply.
I’m still not understanding how a provider would know if I’ve reached out to only him or to multiple guys from my opening text(s). That seems like an unfair and possibly false assumption for a provider to make, and if he does care about the work, a sure way to lose real clients.

I anticipation of a recent hiring weekend in NYC I reached out -- via text -- to a total of six gents over a couple days. My ask was "Do you expect to be in town and available on these dates?" (about two weeks from the days I was texting). In reply...
two offered no reply at all one confirmed he would be away that weekend, in an exchange was pleasant and direct and confirmed my continued interest in this provider one said he might be available but wouldn't know until a few days before, in a manner that was fine but didn't stir my further interest two (one of whom I had booked some while back) said they would definitely be available; both were friendly and flirty in their exchanges, with the new-to-me gent being unusually gregarious, funny, and responsive... In my followup exchanges with the four who did reply (including the gent who was not available), I asked "how far in advance do you prefer to book"? All four gave their answer in a way that gave me a clear vibe/impression on whether/how I wanted to proceed. With the two (including the gent I had booked previously) who confirmed that they would be available and inclined to meet, I followed up as per their preferred timeline and "penciled in" separate appointments on two different days. At which point I confirmed my interests, my general location, and their hourly. 

On the morning of the respective appointments, I followed up to confirm everything. With the gent I had booked previously, everything proceeded gratifyingly. With the new-to-me gent who was so fun and sexy via text, things didn't proceed as simply and, unfortunately (for me), he ultimately proved to be a no-show.

All of which is to say: when communicating with providers, you never know what you're gonna get. And I've learned not to put all my horny eggs (or expectations) into one basket. 

 

He's also a featured performer in this brilliant sketch...
 

How do they know how many providers you’re reaching out to? That’s an assumption unless it’s said upfront. And then you’re just stupid. No one knows how many people I’m in communication in general let alone about services.

Probably the happiest surprise of the season for me. Simple, funny, goodtime with a very appealing cast -- and Corey Cott's gorgeous and impressive arms.
Did you enjoy it @BenjaminNicholas?

I think that "what are your massage services?" is too vague from a provider prospective. The professional massage therapist is not likely to go into explaining neuromuscular, deep tissue, and swedish techniques. The client would likely receive a response if they say what exactly they are looking for. The therapist can say yes I provide that or no I do not do that. And if the client is actually looking for more of a sensual or nude experience with mutual touch than they should ask for that. A professional therapist is not likely to just offer that from the get-go (even if they are fine with this type of service). They can imply a "yes" I offer that more discreetly if it is brought up by the client.

It was the very best of what a jukebox musical does.  
And the '80s pastiche of it all was great.
I liked that they didn't 'broadway' up the music too much.  They kept Huey's songs pretty straight forward and the vocal arrangements didn't come across as jazzhands and cheese. 

He's also a featured performer in this brilliant sketch...
 

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I am not a fan of jukebox musicals, but I am a big fan of Corey Cott's. If I was in NYC while he was in it,  I would see if. 

Probably the happiest surprise of the season for me. Simple, funny, goodtime with a very appealing cast -- and Corey Cott's gorgeous and impressive arms.
Did you enjoy it @BenjaminNicholas?

The panorama seems to be changing. As the market keeps getting saturated with providers wanting to make money, their quality keeps lowering. It's a sad reality. I have experienced some providers who have't been responsive, but I've also experienced some who have responded, but way later, I mean weeks later.
As others state, there are many reasons why a provider might not get back to you, and they range from poor attitude towards their own work or their clients, to legitimate reasons around their availability.
I think it's good advice to keep those who have been responive, let the rest go, and not to get hung up on an unresponsive provider.

I anticipation of a recent hiring weekend in NYC I reached out -- via text -- to a total of six gents over a couple days. My ask was "Do you expect to be in town and available on these dates?" (about two weeks from the days I was texting). In reply...
two offered no reply at all one confirmed he would be away that weekend, in an exchange was pleasant and direct and confirmed my continued interest in this provider one said he might be available but wouldn't know until a few days before, in a manner that was fine but didn't stir my further interest two (one of whom I had booked some while back) said they would definitely be available; both were friendly and flirty in their exchanges, with the new-to-me gent being unusually gregarious, funny, and responsive... In my followup exchanges with the four who did reply (including the gent who was not available), I asked "how far in advance do you prefer to book"? All four gave their answer in a way that gave me a clear vibe/impression on whether/how I wanted to proceed. With the two (including the gent I had booked previously) who confirmed that they would be available and inclined to meet, I followed up as per their preferred timeline and "penciled in" separate appointments on two different days. At which point I confirmed my interests, my general location, and their hourly. 

On the morning of the respective appointments, I followed up to confirm everything. With the gent I had booked previously, everything proceeded gratifyingly. With the new-to-me gent who was so fun and sexy via text, things didn't proceed as simply and, unfortunately (for me), he ultimately proved to be a no-show.

All of which is to say: when communicating with providers, you never know what you're gonna get. And I've learned not to put all my horny eggs (or expectations) into one basket. 

 

Thanks, all. The consensus does seems to be that the combo of "no communication and no show" is the dealbreaker and that 15-30 minutes is a fair "grace period" in such situations. 
I did find that communicating the boundary of my patience ("if I don't hear back by ___") proved a sanity-saver for me yesterday, so I'll likely carry that forward.
And for those who might be interested:
The gent did ultimately contact me, about two hours after we were set to meet. His story -- if true -- would suggest that he simply had a very bad day, complicated by some truly bad luck. So I'm willing to accept that he may actually be legit, given the enthusiasm of other posters. As for me, I go back and forth on whether I believe the gent's story as I also take come comfort from the not-insubstantial pile of dollars that remain in my pocket.

Going silent is not OK. At the very least the provider should communicate if they are running late and an expected ETA. This communication should be sent before the scheduled meeting time. This is common courtesy and good business etiquette.
If there is no communication and no show, then I would wait no more than 15 minutes. Reach out to another provider or Grindr - as a bottom this type of behaviour is extremely frustrating given that I probably would not have eaten the entire day + spent a lot of time prepping for our meeting.

This! Communication is key, and 15 minutes without communication is my upper limit, as well.
Fortunately, all of my hires so far have been on time or communicative, even if just a few minutes late. I think the longest I've had to wait is 15 minutes. And, I've even had a few guys arrive "Japanese on-time" time: 5 - 10 minutes early.
One case that was somewhat different was a same day hire, who said that he would shower and head my way, but couldn't confirm an ETA. He seemed more worried about me flaking, as he spent his entire metro ride chatting with me over text.

Normally I don't have a set "grace period". In my opinion, you did good, communicating and letting the provider know that you are waiting, and providing ample time for him to respond. Seems appropriate to you, with enough time to hire another one if available at the moment. No respose from the provider could have been for a legitimate, fair reason, but if you haven't heard anything after, I think your grace period was appropriate.
Just to be fair, I have communicated the day after to see if there's a legitimate reason for the last minute ghosting. Things happen, so I give the benefit of the doubt. However, after that, if I don't hear from the provider, then either I was completely ghosted, or something major happened that makes the provider unable to communicate. I move on afterwards.
Sorry to hear. It sucks after so much discussion. Seems odd too, in light of there being testimonials about his quality, and because there was good communication before.