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Massive props for "Moldavian Massacre" reference!!

Another motivation that nobody has mentioned is that when a company is being bought, it's pretty common for it to make some cost-saving moves pre-acquisition, either because the buyer wants those actions to be taken (to clean things up before the new ownership) or the executives who are hoping to keep their jobs want to look good (and not "lazy" as Johnrom says). This action was taken with Skydance's approval (formal or informal), so it was a long-simmering action. That being said, the timing couldn't have been worse.

If a session with a good escort "ends" early, I usually look at my watch and say something open-ended and inviting, like "We still have X minutes. Do you want to hang out?" That let's them answer either way. If they say yes, then they'll likely be a repeat hire. If they say no, they're a one-and-done (and no tip). Of course, if the experience wasn't great, I just say goodbye. I might feel different with masseurs, but I rarely hire them.

I would trade away everyone now on television just to have Joan Rivers back.

Colbert is paid $15 million a year. His contract is up in May 2026, when the show will end. $15 million plus the costs of production (even of a talk show) is a lot of money to spend on a time slot that can be filled with syndicated shows that will generate comparable revenues. Colbert has been making that $15 million for the last six years, so I'm not particularly worried about him paying his rent when he retires from the show.

I think that ALL ads should make clear if the provider can host or not, and that info should be updated often, especially for travelers. In NYC, where I live, I will only see providers who are hosting, but I assume most providers cannot host because it seems everybody under the age of 30 or 35 lives with roommates in an inconvenient part of the city. (Yes, I know I can hire older providers, but that's not my thing.) This means that I'm reaching out constantly to providers whose ads don't specify if they can host, and I'm sure I'm not the only client doing that. Putting that info in the ad would save both the client and the provider a lot of unproductive communication.

Added to that, I think communicating by email allowed for more extensive conversation between the client and the provider and a certain amount of comfort on both sides to be developed. Things happened slower in those days, which wasn't all bad.

I think it's naive to ignore the effect of evolution in our development of what we find attractive. Even week-old babies react differently to attractive vs unattractive faces - of CATS as well as of humans - and culture can't have had an effect that early. There are some inbred responses to something we viscerally deem "attractive" that, the evolutionary biologists will tell us, relates to finding the best possible partner for mating. Symmetry and fitness (though maybe not to the degree it's measured these days) are sought after qualities. But we are definitely more than what's coded in our genetic material. Cultural influences do have an influence. Also, the desire to mate involves compromise (one wants the best available mate, not the ideal mate). That's why we see (or at least I see) plenty of gay and straight married or paired overweight couples, in-shape couples and couples with one of each. Some of them are happy and some of them aren't, but I don't see weight being the determining factor in that.

I'm sure that escorts who don't specify whether they can host gets lost of "can you host" inquiries. I, for one, send them all the time. And it looks like this guy gets those inquiries even though it's clearly answered in his ad. Maybe RM should add a dropdown option for incalls/outcalls/both. Not only would that improve the search functionality of the site, but it might save unproductive conversations started by potential clients who are too dazzled by the pictures to read the ad text.

I never send photos for reasons of discretion, but I certainly would like to know before I hire (and I totally understand that the provider wants to know) if I am too ugly for him to do his job satisfactorily or at all. If I were an extraordinarily ugly 60-something fat guy (I'm not bald, yay!), I might be moved to send a pic, but being only ordinarily ugly I feel my stats give a good enough impression of what the escort will see. That being said, some escorts can't hide their lack of attraction and I never repeat with them or recommend them to others.

I think that is the same reaction that the rich old ladies experience.

This describes me. The most stressful part of hiring for me (once I've done the homework of deciding to hire a provider) is negotiating the fee. I say negotiating, but I don't negotiate. I ask the provider what his fee is and either I'll accept it and move forward or I'll say that's too pricey and walk away. Even if the provider comes back and offers a lower price that I would have accepted if it were offered initially, I turn it down. I don't want to meet someone if any of my mindspace is taken up with "did I get a good price". Also, my experience with an escort is good or bad regardless of price. I have NEVER walked away from a bad or mediocre encounter thinking "It would have been a good session if only I had paid $100 less." All that being said (sorry for the rambling), a regular provider offering me a discount would damage the relationship that we've built. Better, as suggested above, to offer something special or to extend our time. I wouldn't even point out that this is a frequent flyer perk. Better for the provider to say "I thought this might be fun" or "Don't go just yet. Hang out a bit."

An interesting ad. He offers a loyalty program (didn't someone just start a thread on that subject?). Also, he offers a sensual dance and relaxing massage off the clock to begin each session. Not your typical offering. Anyone with experience?

Thanks for the clarifications, Mike. I had thought that RM messenger was disabled for frozen ads (as it is for expired ones), but I may be wrong. Thinking more about my proposed text, while it would be fine as an RM message, as a text it should be more discreet (not use the word "client", etc.) to address your concern about the number being multi-purpose.

There are lots of reasons a provider might freeze his ad. Maybe he's traveling, maybe he's busy in his real life/day job (one guy I used to see was in law school and he froze his account for three months while studying for the bar exam), or maybe he has some personal issues to deal with or just wants to take a break. I don't think it's rude to send one text along the lines of "I see your ad is frozen, but if you're still seeing clients, I'm interested." He can always ignore your text, or respond "not now". Don't pester him, though. I would think a second text or a phone call would border on rude. I do the same thing with expired ads. My habit is to put a provider's phone number in the notes on my RM buddy list so I have it handy even when the ad is expired. From what I can tell, the expiration is often a money thing or an organization thing (the provider forgot to pay the fee) and the provider is still happy to hear from clients or potential clients.

Going back to the original post. I'm sorry this is happening to you, but here is a suggestion from a discreet client. 1. Be particularly cautious with guys on RM who are new to the app or haven't set up a profile. I added a profile years ago mostly not to have to answer so may questions from providers. Discretion has nothing to do with answering some basic questions (height, weight, age, interests) on RM. 2 Suggest earlier in the conversation (rather than at confirmation) that communication be moved off the RM platform to text. It's easier and, if you use an encrypted platform like Whatsapp, it's also more secure. Most of the time, providers ask me to switch to text at some point. Some even have auto-responses in RM that ask for that after my first message. 3. If the person says he's discreet, you can either suggest encryption or suggest that he get a burner phone or an app that gives him the equivalent on his phone. Anyone who wants to remain anonymous and is serious about hiring escorts needs a burner. 4. I think those burner apps can cycle through new numbers frequently, though I've never seen the need for that. I've used the same burner number for more than a decade, so I may be discreet but I have an on-line history connected to my hiring. I don't think the above will eliminate flakes, but I think it will increase the likelihood that someone isn't a flake because it requires them to do some work and/or preparation before they reach out to you. Good luck!

I disagree. I thought Bella Ramsey was the weak link through all of S1. It was good as zombie shows go (and the HBO/Max production values are always a plus), but the father-daughter relationship was carried entirely by Pedro Pascal, who might as well have performed opposite a wood block. And now to focus the story on Ellie and not pair Ramsey with an actor with Pascal's chops leaves the spaces between the zombie interactions nothing but filler. The game may be interesting to watch, but this show isn't.

I have a different take. In public posts, I may give details on a very positive experience but leave them out when reporting a negative or mediocre experience. Everyone's experience with a provider is different and I would hate to trash a provider before all forum participants just because my experience was sub-par. Instead, I just say it was not a great experience and offer details by DM. That way, I can discuss the details more openly and directly.

I took the plunge and had a good, not great, experience. Of course, YMMV. If anyone wants details, feel free to DM. A few observations about his RM ad. First, he is at least as handsome as he appears in his pics, especially when he smiles. He is in great shape, though maybe not as cut as in some of the pics. He has a decent number of tats, but not too many. Second, he does vape. He vaped during our session, but he was discreet about it and didn't let it interfere with our activities. The smell was inoffensive and dissipated quickly, so it didn't bother me at all. Last, I think his measurements are slightly exaggerated (or maybe generously rounded up), though no more than in most RM ads.

Can I ask what the difference is between paying up front and leaving the money in plain sight? If it's a bad session, am I going to wrestle with the escort over who grabs the money off the table because I want to claw some of it back? (Yes, I realize that may be a way to improve the session.) I think the escort has a legitimate interest in knowing whether the client has the money to pay (it's why hotels and car rental companies put holds on your credit card even if they don't charge you until you leave), and showing him the money gives him that assurance. But once I've put the money out, his leaving it there during the session or his picking it up and putting it in his pocket at the beginning doesn't mean anything to me. On the other hand, I think addressing the money issue up front is bad. When I'm asked, I am insulted that the escort thinks that I would be the sort of person who wouldn't pay him or that I don't have the money. (Yeah, I'm a bit of a prig.) The result is there is no tipping if i pay up front, while if I pay after I always tip for good sessions and often tip even for mediocre ones.

Of course, you should always stand your ground, but you must be open-minded too. I'm a hard no on smoking (the incendiary kind) because the smell and taste just can't be masked, but vaping often doesn't have the same issue. My most recent hire was a young man who vaped during our session. Initially that put me off somewhat, but on reflection it didn't interfere with our activities and the residual odor was not significant or unpleasant. It was certainly less intrusive than a cologne used by an escort. I wouldn't want to meet an escort who couldn't put his vape down, but going forward an escort who takes an occasional puff won't be an issue for me.

Ah, give the kid a break. I'm sure there's someone out there who will be happy to suck his dick (and get/do nothing else) on the regular in exchange for some cash. And good for him if he's actually straight but willing to get serviced by another man. Maybe he'll find that person on here, and good luck to him. When I was 16, I got approached in a record store by a local guy who was maybe 30 or 35 who asked if I'd like a blowjob. Being perpetually horny (did I say I was 16?) and after making sure none of my friends was around, I said sure. We went to his place a block away, I dropped my pants, he blew me to completion, handed me $10 (this was a long time ago) and said I should come back any time I wanted the same. Which I did a number of times because I needed the money or the relief or both. He seemed happy with the arrangement, and if he wanted more from me he never asked for it. I don't think he cared or knew if I was straight or gay (which at the time I didn't really know either). It takes all sorts in this world. Who are we to judge?

There are differences in the circumstances of professionals and of college kids that cause the acceptable range of pricing outcomes to expand greatly. A pro knows what the market is and, if he's trying to make a living out of escorting, he is somewhat constrained by market economics. On the other hand, the guys you're talking to on Grindr are likely trying to address a temporary cash shortage (temporary could mean while he's in school) and they may not be looking for "market rates" per meeting. This is particularly true given that an arrangement likely means regular meetings (and payments), which is not necessarily the case with escorts. Think of buying retail versus wholesale. I've had several such arrangements in the past (and have one currently). The financial discussion often goes to the aggregate cash needs (the provider is looking for $X a month) and a fee per meeting gets calculated based on that. One bit of advice. If you go down this path, keep with a fee per meeting until the arrangement is well-established so that the provider is still incentivized to meet. A monthly payment makes it easy for the provider to be too busy with school (or whatever) to meet as often as you agreed on. Good luck with your efforts. I've never used Grindr for this purpose, but if I'm in the market again I may ask you for some advice based on your experience.