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I hired him as an escort and was disappointed. DM for details.

I have a story about that, slightly off topic. A provider who I met in NY a few times moved to LA when I was traveling there regularly for work. The next time I was in LA, I met him at my hotel for an extended session. I had an amazing time, better even than our NY sessions, which I thought were pretty great. I paid his rate, gave him a very generous tip and decided I would try to see him two or three times on that trip and on all my future trips to LA. Ten minutes later I got a call from the hotel bellman saying a guy in the garage was trying to charge his parking to my room. I told the bellman I didn't know who it was. I guess the parking was expensive, but only a small fraction of the tip I gave him, and I felt so betrayed by the grift that I never saw him again. 😪

Thanks for this info. I am usually looking for daytimes, but the next time I need an evening spot, I'll check out midtown west/Chelsea. And good advice for everyone to watch out for the "resort fees" that hotels charge but that aren't quoted with the room price.

Not necessarily. My successful finds on Seeking have been equivalent to a relationship with a regular escort. We'd meet more or less weekly and spend a couple of hours together. However, the guys I targeted were managing to get along with their salaries but were looking for some extra spending money. I avoided guys who seemed desperate for money and those who thought I was going to marry or adopt them, but there were still plenty who were interested. Did the guys I meet have similar arrangements with other older guys? I didn't know and I didn't care. @Markmark's advice is good. Write them, tell them vaguely what you're looking for, see if they respond and take the conversation from there.

My experience with Dayuse is that the hotels will offer one or more four- or six-hour blocks on the given day, but they're all during the daytime. I don't think I've seen an offered time period that ends after 6pm, so plan for afternoon (or morning) delight. To get two or three hours in the evening, I think you'll have to book the room for the night.

I'm guessing he means 250 plus 100 for the number of hours you want, meaning one hour is 350, two hours is 450, etc. As it turns out, I've me this provider in a social situation. He was very likeable -- clever, funny and warm-hearted. Quite handsome, too.

This isn't really relevant to this discussion, but I am not sure where else to put this. Has there been a change in how threads that have or haven't been read are indicated? In the past, the titles of threads that I've read were not in bold and easily distinguished from titles of threads I haven't. Now they just seem less bold and, for my failing eyes at least, it's much harder to distinguish between the two. Thanks for reading.

I think they know but pretend they don't. The value of the experience for me is indulging in the fiction (and I know it's a fiction) that if I'm not the only client I'm at least a special and treasured client. The more I think about other clients, the harder it is to indulge in that fiction. When a provider tells me he can see me between 4 and 6pm because he has clients before and after then or when a provider says he can't cum in our session because he has three more clients that day, the fantasy is broken and I lose all interest in hiring him.

I agree. It's not like the escort is running a competition or setting a challenge for potential clients. If you do get through to him, I doubt an enthusiastic "Congratulations! You win the golden ticket!" is going to be the escort's reaction.

I also used to find good providers on Seeking. If you weed out the delusional ones who think you're going to support them indefinitely and the scammers, a lot of the guys are looking for something without really knowing what that something is. A guy who'll exchange money for occasional companionship (which may be at dinner, the theater or a club, and may involve sex) may not be what they dreamed of finding on that platform but it's a practical solution for a young man who could use some extra income.

I found my current regular on this site two years ago. He mentioned in his posts that he had previously worked as an escort and gave enough personal information to intrigue me. I wrote him asking for more details and if he would be interested in an arrangement. We exchanged some texts and put it together from there. I couldn't be happier. I realize my finding him was totally serendipitous and have no idea how to find "amateurs" (or retired professionals) in a methodical way.

Thanks for the info, NYXboy. I first noticed his ad a few days ago. At $500, I won't say no (after all, he hosts, so I save the cost of a hotel), but I'll have to think about it before I commit. Of course, anyone on here with experience with PlayfulTwink will help with my deliberations.

Not to rise to the defense of Justin/Turbook, but I've had disputes through Venmo and they have always taken a month to resolve EVEN THOUGH BOTH PARTIES AGREED to the resolution, so I think Venmo gets a share of the blame on this. I don't use Venmo for escorts, but in other contexts if there's a dispute, I always ask for or offer a new transfer instead of reversing an old one to avoid getting involved in all that Venmo mishegas, to use the Latin legal term.

Thanks. That's what I get for only searching for his name in The Deli. Lesson learned!!

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If I'm getting a hotel room for a liaison, I ask the escort that he book the room, which I'll pay for in full by giving him cash. As suggested, the escort can use the room after I'm gone for time away from his roommates or hosting other clients or whatever he wants. I would not leave the escort with the hotel room when it's my name and credit card on the booking. Too much opportunity for mischief.

I also like looking for guys like this. They get something tangible out of the arrangement and are appreciative. The "professional" escorts also understand their business is finding and satisfying clients and appreciate (within reason) the clients who want to hire them. There are way too many of these kids on RM (and OF) who think they're doing the client a favor by taking their money. That attitude is so off-putting to me that I won't hire a provider if I get a whiff of it in our pre-hire communications. I'm sure it's off-putting to other client, so the provider had better change their tune or they'll wash out of the escorting business in short order. I'm sorry the original poster lost money to this guy, but I think he dodged a bad hire.

Suggest to the escort that he load up on Benedryl or another antihistamine. I used to see a provider who had two cats (I'm very allergic) and that was my strategy, but it also meant that I kept our sessions to less than two hours.

While I don't specifically ask the escort to cum in our sessions, I am frequently less happy with the session if he doesn't. Something about it being (ahem) harder to maintain the fiction that the escort is enjoying his time with me.

I texted with him recently when he was listed in NY, asked a couple of questions and tried to schedule a session. I got a complete run-around that blame on more than just lack of English skills. Forget about him.

I'm totally in agreement with blocking these guys, but I admit that I have given guys money before meeting them to pay for a hotel room. I leave it to them to secure the room and then I reimburse them, and a few times I've had an escort reach out and say they can't afford to book the room. I handled it by meeting them in person, giving them some cash to deposit at their bank and then proceeded as usual. I figured if the escort came out to meet me he wouldn't scam me for the hotel cost and miss out on an escort fee of 2-4x that. Only once was I scammed and, as I saw the problems other clients had with him in the few months that he escorted, I figured I was lucky to get away from him when I did.

Just goes to show that it takes all kinds. The first time I saw his screen name I laughed out loud. He's totally not my type, so I'd never hire him, but I give him props for the screen name.

I also tried to contact him after I got no testimonials on here in response to the original post, but communication with him was so sporadic and so difficult that I gave up.

Wishful thinking, yes, but posted age and size have to bear SOME relationship with the real world. Everyone I know who's 5'10" or 5'11" claims to be six feet tall, and I accept that as harmless vanity, but if an escort says he's six feet and when I open the door he's 5'7", there's already a problem. That's true even though I'm happy to hire guys who are 5'7" (and often do). It's the discrepancy between reality and expectations that disappoints. The same principle applies to dick size.

Agreed. Before hiring, I want to see a couple of torso shots front and back, a face pic that doesn't have to be of the passport variety -- a side view or a partially obstructed or shadowed photo that still gives a sense of the guy's looks is fine, and a dick pic (which can also be in revealing underwear or with a towel covering) that confirms the guy's stated size is approximately accurate. I would hesitate to meet someone without seeing any face pics, but because I won't send a face pic myself, I've offered to come to their place when they can judge whether to let me in or not. I figure that, while I'm pretty ugly, my face is still better than the body.