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30 minutes ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

"The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas" has plenty of male eye candy.  I about wore out my VHS copy on the "the Aggie Song", where the football players change out of their uniforms, then out of their jockstraps and into the shower, then start dancing in their underwear.  If you advance frame by frame, you can see about three frames of flaccid penis when the men are in the shower.  As a closeted kid in Jr high school, this musical was the closest thing to porn that I could get access to.

Wow this is pre internet I guess? With the internet kids these days have access to unlimited porn from very young age, I am not sure if that is a good or bad thing though

I've not thought about this voice effect but feel like a conversation on phone before meeting usually leads to good outcome 😊

1 hour ago, azdr0710 said:

I'll second the "Spartacus" TV series suggestion (not the 1960 Kirk Douglas movie!!).....it's a few years old (2010-2013) and was on some "cable/premium" channel at the time.......high-quality production, but I'll be damned if it didn't border on soft-core porn with, as said above, a decided bent toward male full-frontal (and -backal!).......there were rumors of prosthetic penises and it's probably true for some of the dudes.......google "spartacus male nudity" at any of the usual porn-y sites for the pertinent clips!.......

Even with prosthethic penises, they look very real and super sexy, I find it more sexy to watch movies/TV series that pepper nudity with a real plot and serious acting than watching porn. I wish they made more products like this, I am sure there will be huge demand! Another series that is very sexy is another grand production TV series "Marco Polos" by Netflix. It is one of the most expensive TV series ever made and was really thrilling, I am so sad when they decided to cancel it half way due to cost! 

12 hours ago, smatt612 said:

I've heard of it, but I haven't had the chance I watch it. What streaming serves have it, do you know?

It was on Netflix earlier but was taken off as it is a Starz series and they have their own streaming. You can still watch it on Starz here for 4.99 a month, you can finish it and cancel the subsription if you wish lol:

On 6/10/2023 at 5:28 PM, Whatsupandstuff said:

Hi guys. are there any escorts who prefer bigger bearish men? would love to hear from providers 

A good provider is usually very open minded and weight is not the most concern for him. What more important is personality and hygiene. I personally find bears attractive, especially if they come with friendly smiles 😊

Usually a one-word or abrupt messages such as below are redflags:

"Sup?" (100% ignore, I hate this so much!!)

"Hey, free?"

"What ya rates?"

"hi 👋" (100% ignore)

"face pics?"

"pick up ya phone"

These are all real and very common first contacts from clients and most of the time they ended up not the type of client I want to engage.

Asking for rates before telling what's your expectation is also a redflag. If you go to any service provider and ask for a quote, they will need to know what exactly do you want first. Even a very simple description such as "I want an hour massage at my place at.... with these requirements: ..." will be enough for providers to give a quote. Be straight to the point and clearly describe what you want is often very welcomed!

Requesting for face photo in the first message is also a bit awkward to me. There are reasons why providers chose not to put their face photos in public. They may want some discretion and will only share face photo when feeling comfortable. Usually after chatting with a client and I feel comfortable about him, I would he happy to share my face photos but not at the first contact. 

Daddy types are hot everyday and not just today 😊

3 hours ago, XIX said:

I'm sure a lot of providers who do sensual/erotic massage also do regular massages as well.

In certain jurisdictions, this is very risky. For example, in New York, to obtain a license to be a massage therapist, one needs to complete a college degree or equivalent of 1000 hours in training (including biology, physiology and anatomy, etc) from only a few state approved educational institutions where the cost is upward to 80K and as long as 2 years of full time study. Then after completing the education, they need to pass a license exam and then will be issued a license to do massage. Doing sensual/erotic massage is against the rule of their license and if got caught they will lose it. Most massage therapists in New York with a real license can earn a decent living from that job in spa/salon/clinic and because it is so hard to obtain a massage license, they will not risk their career doing sensual/erotic massage. Of course, some will still do it but they do in a private setting and would not advertise openly.  

11 minutes ago, DynamicUno said:

Although your original question wasn't about having an overnight with this client, it does seem to have some similar concerns for you to feel comfortable with it.  If you have done overnight sessions before, what has helped make for a successful session that you both enjoyed?  Some of the same things could help in this case, too, since it sounds like you'll spend several hours together.  

This time it is not an overnight one, client is in another state and we chatted and he likes to meet for a few hours. He thought about travelling to NY but the cost would be even more than inviting me to visit him so he suggested if I could travel to meet him instead. I would be more reluctant if it is an overnight for the first meeting but he assured that it is not and I can fly back the same day if I wish. I have done overnight before and it was really great because I was with someone I have already met a few times. We met early in the afternoon, had a good dinner, went to watch a show together, walking back to the hotel on busy streets and spent the rest of the night chilling. We slept on different beds and in the morning we enjoyed some cuddling and fun before having breakfast together and say goodbye. It was at a nice hotel with spectacular view of the city so we feel like on top of the world. It was a great experience to remember. 

11 minutes ago, big-n-tall said:

Most of the providers I've hired are from other states. I usually bring them to me. Sometimes they visit the area I live in on their own accord or sometimes I visit their state. The furthest place I brought a provider in was from Argentina.

What usually happens if I'm interested in someone from another state is I contact them; introduce myself; tell them what i'm in to; ask their rates for an overnight or weekend; and give a description about myself. If they show interest, I'll give them some meet-up dates and offer to cover travel costs. If we've built a level trust that they'll tell me their real names/info I'll buy their tickets, or offer to reimburse them once they arrive. The vast majority were ok with me buying their tickets. As I mentioned in another forum topic, to me this is my idea of a guaranteed deposit of my seriousness in hiring them. Otherwise, I don't do deposits. 

Sometimes, we discuss expectations before we meet... sometimes the day we meet. Things like, do they need alone time for working out, personal business, etc. I also will sometimes discuss what interests them outside the bedroom. If they stay with me for more than overnight, having things lined up outside the bedroom (i.e. movies, plays, museums, etc.) is always good. On occasion, i've met providers who would prefer to stay in the hotel room almost the entire time together and just fuck. I'm getting old... I can't do that anymore. LOL!

In general, if we're together for extended periods, I feel I'm responsible for travel costs (if they specifically come in to see me); cost of food; and extracurricular activities. For the provider, I expect them to delivery upon whatever we agree upon before the meet up. I know they are only human. So if things don't click, I understand that.  I try my best to make the visit as enjoyable for them as possible. I don't try to plan everything... a little spontaneity is always fun.

Above all, make sure you discuss specifics and expectations before hand. If the client doesn't treat you like a human being... get the hell out of there asap. In turn, don't treat the client like a walking cash register. Well, unless that's what he's into.

You seem like a great client and treat your providers so well. I think for extended trip like this, it would need both parties to be very careful and to make sure that both sides are comfortable spending such a long time together. Ideally, both should have met for a brief time before deciding to do overnight or weekends. However for clients out of state, it would not be an option. Even when dating, people do not see the bad sides of each other until they move in together. As @Simon Suraci mentioned, some providers do not like to do overnight because they don't want client to see the not-so-good side of them such as morning breath, snoring or fighting for blanket at night etc.. People also have different preferences such as room temperature, level of noise, lighting.... and without knowing the other well enough, it would be hard to predict if both would share similar preferences to have a good night sleep. To me I would only spend extended time with a client if I know that it would be a pleasant experience because there is some chemistry.  Overnight can be very intimate, very romantic, very passionate but it could also end up in a nightmare situation where both can't sleep and tired the day after because you can't tolerate the other party sharing the bed at night. Staying up all night to play is not really a thing for most people, the goal of an overnight experience is to simulate a bfe experience as much as possible and couples  do not stay up all night when they date, do they? I always tell myself that overnight or weekends can be lucrative but at the same time it could be your last contact with a good client if it ends up a bad experience, so proceed with caution. 

1 hour ago, KennF said:

I actually have more forgiveness for the overslept part.  Less so for the not immediately apologizing and offering compensation. 

We all make mistakes and it's about what we do after the mistake happens.  It's why I wouldn't write the client off immediately but would be more guarded on the next time. And look for some way to get compensated  either in money or in clarifying the boundaries..

If it is really oversleeping then I would not have any problem with that. However, anyone can see this is just a lame excuse to get out. Between ending of business dinner and walking back to hotel, there are plenty of time to send a simple text replying my request for update but instead he chose to be radio silence and only send a short message "I fell asleep" the next day. A bit more context, the previous 2 meetings were good but same pattern. Meeting was set in early afternoon but only happened late at night. But they did happen though, unlike this time. I also replied to him that I am not happy he stood me up as I have spent time preparing for it and was also worried if anything happened to him since we texted a lot before the day of appointment but he suddenly stopped. His one word reply "Bummer" shows lack of sympathy and at this point I decided to write him off. 

Not a movie but have you watched the TV Series "Spartacus"? Not only there are tons of full frontal muscular men, there are also lots of nude fighting. It is a mainstream TV series but closest to porn ever produced and where male actors are nude more often than female counterparts

1 hour ago, Shawn Monroe said:

hey i’m not saying you’re wrong. common decency would be nice. but it’s often not afforded to us in this industry. even in this forum we get talked down to and talked over. 

the only thing i can say is to develop a thick skin so the next time this happens you won’t be as disappointed. 

and also to develop a contingency plan so when this happens again you’ll know what you want to do. 

You are right, I will have to learn to develop a thick skin and protect myself from these nonsenses. It is also important to have a set of rules for moving on, like I am not waiting for hours, if you do not reply a request for update for more than 30 mins then the meeting is cancelled. If you delay the meeting for more than an hour then it is cancelled. If you miss appointments twice then you are not welcomed any more. 

It is a common perception that providers are lowly educated, have no real job or can't do anything else.

In mingling with some providers, I found that many of them, however, have extremely accomplished careers or are very highly educated.

There are providers who are medical doctor, lawyer, nurse practitioner, college professor, bankers, Phd candidate, just to name a few. Some providers graduated from Harvard, Columbia, Wharton, Oxford, Cambridge, Stanford, UCLA etc.

The reasons they became providers are abundant and sometime very personal but all of them do not regret what they do and most are very happy with this gig.

Have you ever met a provider that are very successful in real life and scratch your head why on earth they became provider? 

22 hours ago, Emir said:

When pics are AI generated

If the pics are AI generated then 100% profile is scam, I am wondering how these photos passed the verification of RM? I saw some profiles with verified photos but the pics are obviously AI generated or even like a cartoon. For those who don't know, you need to take a camera selfie photo with your name hand-written on a piece of paper for them to validate! 

50 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

I'm sorry to hear that! There was certainly chemistry between the two of you, but I think he was playing games from the beginning. Almost all the time someone says he fell asleep is nothing but an easy way out. 

Believe me... the only surprising thing about this is the fact that you've already met him, don't get misbehaviors like this too personal they happen on a monthly basis and please don't write "only right now, no advanced appointment", be flexible. Some folks call at the moment while others schedule days ahead and unlike this guy keep their word. 

Never count your chickens before they hatch, if you have time to meet another client before someone who already booked you just do it. 

I actually prefer advanced booking and hate last minute ones. How do you expect someone to be 100% ready in a few minutes, do you expect the same when you date in real life? Providers are human too and they need time to adjust and prepare before a session. I think if someone wants a good experience, advanced booking is still preferrable. I understand that sometime clients only book when the urge is high, in that case it depends if I am in a ready state to take the appointment, if I feel I am not ready then I would politely reject. 

41 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

 

Never count your chickens before they hatch, if you have time to meet another client before someone who already booked you just do it. 

I agree wholeheartedly but I value quality than quantity so having a good client that you met before always trump meeting a totally new one.  I think what makes me feel bad is that despite having 2 good sessions earlier, this client still behaves like this. Maybe he thinks that all providers are just in for the money and therefore he can treat us whatever he likes as long as he pays. I am sure he will meet with many providers who are in for his deep pocket, but it would be very transactional and mechanical and for him to find someone truly take the effort to make it real fun, he needs to treat them with respect. I always believe in this business, it is to the client benefits to make the providers feel comfortable, you treat him good, and you get better session in return, otherwise you can just play with your toys instead. 

1 hour ago, Shawn Monroe said:

sorry that happened, a lot of us have been there. at this point i’m iffy on clients that have business dinners.

 

business almost always run late. just had a client earlier this week that got roped into one and it ran late. 

i ask them to let me know when dinner is over, but if it’s later than my cutoff time, i’ll  politely say we should meet another time. 

How difficult is it to just text back that he cannot make it for the night so the provider can just move on or sleep early. If the client said something to not let me wait in limbo, then I would feel much better. However, I suspect that this client just shopped around providers or Grindr and then decide to move on with a new one instead of repeating with someone he already met. "Fell asleep" is just a lame excuse which makes me feel even worse. I have decided to block such client on RM and unless he texts me to apologize for his behavior, I won't see him again. I am not doing this solely for a living so losing a client like this is no big deal. 

6 minutes ago, Lucky said:

Make sure that friends know where you are and whom you are with. Personally, I would ask the guy for references from others he has hired in such a fashion.

That is absolutely needed. He has tons of reviews on his profile so I have personally messaged a couple of providers there to make sure he is legit. All excellent feedbacks on the client so far. 

28 minutes ago, DynamicUno said:

I think round trip plane ticket and hotel room cost for the day you're meeting would be reasonable.  Uber for at least the trip to the hotel, as well.  If you stay extra days without planning to see the client, then the extras nights and return to the airport are at your own cost.

I'd say meals are also on your own unless it's part of the appointment with him.

Makes sense, thanks

2 hours ago, DynamicUno said:

How far is the client from you?  Do you have to fly to see him?  If you have to stay overnight, are you staying with the client or in a hotel?

The client should pay for the travel expense up front, and any accomodations if you don't stay with the client.  Otherwise it could be a fun excursion for you.

I will have to take a flight as driving would be 10-12 hours so not practical and will stay at hotel as client cannot host from home. He said he wants to meet for 3-5 hours and not overnight as he wants a good night sleep but agree to pay for the full day expenses. I am thinking of listing out hotel cost, uber to hotel, flight ticket. I may want to stay there for some extra days for my own vacation so perhaps will pay for the extra days myself. Would it be appropriate to ask for meals ' expenses for the day of appointment? 

I've never travelled long distance to meet client but recently has an interesting request from someone in another state to come visit him for a day. After chatting and talking on the phone, I feel client is trust worthy and nice so feel tempted to accept his request but a bit nervous at the same time. What are reasonable asks for reimbursement in this kind of request? Anyone has any experience on this that you can share? Do you ask for a deposit to confirm before buying tickets etc. or ask client to buy it for you? Thanks so much!

Both parties are very civilized and treated each other with respect! I applause to both of you! Sometimes things happen and a provider may not perform at his best (many providers have other full time jobs and may have a bad day before meeting you). I would say this is an unfortunate situation, if I were the provider, I would have politely called to explain the situation and ask for postponing the appointment to another time. If that is not possible, at least client does not waste the time and/or money. I would agree that provider should not take the full charge but a token for travel cost would be appropriate and makes both side feel less uneasy in this situation. 

41 minutes ago, nycman said:

This is the one scenario where I’d be cool with the escort asking for a deposit on the next booking. Although, if I had been the asshole client I would have already I sent you payment for the missed appointment and apologized profusely. Shit happens but a good client knows when they fucked up and they try to make it right. Since you’ve had good experiences with him in the past, I’d give him enough wiggle room to rebound. 

However, if he acts like nothing happened and he balks at a deposit, I’d walk. He’s an asshole and you’re not going to change that. 

I would not ask for a deposit but of course I do not feel like 100% the next time he asks for an appointment which is something he will lose FOREVER. I would take his request as simply an expression of interest and not a firm booking and would not go the extra mile to prepare for the appointment with said client. Once bitten twice shy, if he books me again and if I have nothing on that day, I would meet him,  but if I have other thing to do, his will not be prioritized. If this happens again, of course I would not want to see the client any more. I am kind of forgiving person and I understand sometime things happen, but the way he communicated just show that he did not have any respect to my time or me in general. 

19 minutes ago, justanoldguy said:

I always book a couple of days beforehand and  indicate I'll confirm that day and they can give me their exact address then. I confirm that morning and again when I am on my way. I have been late once and gave him notice and asked if it was an issue that required a reschedule. 

On the other hand, I had a situation where a provider canceled on me twice at the last minute. Once I was traveling to Chicago and made a mid day appointment to see him. It was an incall as I told him I was staying with friends. He texted me a couple of days before to confirm. I reiterated I would text him when I arrived and get his address. When I got off the plane I had a text cancelling, saying he had houseguest he forgot about. 

Then he was traveling to LA, my home town and I thought I'd give him another chance. Same drill. That morning he cancelled, saying he had been up late the night before.  

I am sorry to hear you had such a bad experience. Providers like this will not last long or maybe they are not serious with this gig to begin with. It is frustrating for anyone when last minute cancellation happened. However, a notification of cancellation, even though last minute, is still better than no communication at all. With client ghosting, providers are in a limbo not sure what to do and just waiting in frustration, it is even worse if this is for a repeat client. I have had experience with a client that shops around multiple providers when in the city and  make "tentative appointments" with multiple providers before choosing one. I know this because he cancelled on another provider but that provider did not receive the text so still appeared at the hotel room and it was an awkward situation.  From the client perspective, I understand why he did this, he properly had a lot of bad experiences with providers who cancel last minute and just want to optimize his chance of finding a good one with limited time in the trip. However, by cancelling on others, he is causing an issue of trust with the providers and I am sure he will not be an ideal client the next time he wants to book them. This gig is only fun when both parties treat each other with respect and not wasting time of each other.