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I read things like this and wonder what’s wrong with me. This kind of thing never happens for me. It’s the stuff of porn and erotica, for me, anyhow. My life is so boring compared to yours and others’ here!

Milking the thirsty client for money.

If a guy makes it harder to have initial contact, what’s to say he’s not high maintenance in other regards? Like I said earlier, a very potential red flag. Stick to the center of the bell curve, and there shouldn’t be too much trouble. Anomalies arise, but that’s why they’re anomalies.

Not saying bye to you, Bob. The escort 🙄 I’ll go back and forth with you and florid language as much as you engage. You feed my inner troll 🧌

@SirBillybob, long and short, it shouldn’t be difficult to get in touch with someone offering a service. Make whatever rationalizations you want to excuse the provider (who has a prerogative to setup business however he chooses) but at the end of the day, it’s a largely unnecessary speed bump, as you term it, to make communication more cumbersome than to ease it. I don’t have all the time in the world to play games or march in parades, rain or shine, so if the provider is going to add extra layers of difficulty to getting in touch, bye, Felicia. But you do you.

I smell rationalizing and excuse-making for poor behavior…Why do we need to excuse things we don’t find especially savory? It’s almost like if the provider does it, it’s acceptable. But if the client does it, it’s burdensome or bothersome. These guys aren’t gods. They are allegedly businessmen and some of them have ridiculous business expectations. It’s good to call a spade a spade… Everything here puts the onus on the client. Imagine a contractor who has a website. But doesn’t give an address. No phone number. No email. But there are up-to-date reviews from clients and the contractor has recent info about work done and maybe even some pictures. If they have no way that makes it easy to get in touch with them by conventional means, they have a really queer business model, to say the least. It’s so silly you probably think the scenario is absurd to the point of not happening. And that’s why this notion also applies to escorts who put up hurdles to getting in touch with them for business.

A potential provider who puts his OF prominently in the ad falls in likelihood for me reaching out. I find that hugely offputting.

This. And it irks the living hell out of me. It’s not the primary function of the site – if a function at all. It also conveys to me the client that offering a satisfactory service isn’t the provider’s primary objective but rather satisfying their own concerns. I’m the means to that ends.

When a provider makes it difficult to contact according to the typical ways, it disinclines me to contact them at all. It’s almost a red flag. What are they so worried about? (Spare me the list. I know the risks etc.) If they can’t handle the eventuality of dealing with unpleasantness or other issues around this enterprise, then I’m not interested in investing in them. There’s already enough hassle without added hoops to satisfy whatever reasons a provider has for complicating communication.

Helping me with my gin nightcap after a looooooong day

It’s that kid glove approach that sometimes keeps me from saying I’m a faithful Christian - even if Jesus says if I deny him he’ll deny me. (Mea culpa. Kyrie eleison!) I appreciate you not wanting to offend. I do. But not every Christian is offended by an advance! I have never been advanced upon, by a woman or a man, and that’s independent of them knowing my religious disposition. Now add that if they did know, that would add yet another layer of barrier. Yikes!

At some point, I don’t enjoy paying too much even for a luxury or fantasy. Even if I can afford it, I don’t like feeling like I’m getting ripped off or used. “Taken advantage of” might suggest I actually can’t afford it, but still. At some point the r value received does not match the value given. At that point, I don’t enjoy it – even if it is good. And that’s independent of ability to pay or not. That could just be my personality, but there you have it.

I have because I pay up front.

Better living through pharmaceuticals.

@BuffaloKyle, check out the link to the search results I provided above. 53 options to wade through.

At first, on the heels of your remark about money, I thought you were going to say a significant portion struggle with money management. I’m always so surprised how these guys who make multiple hundreds of dollars per hour and sometimes more than I make in a month for two or three day arrangements never seem to be able to get stabile financially. The substance abuse may play into that…

It’s not just the Abrahamic traditions that censure masturbation.

It’s probably this reason why guys who advertise they can either be your dom or sub don’t do one or the other as well as the other. In a broader sense, it’s always easier to just be who you are instead of putting on an act. Just be who you are. The act might not be malicious; can be well intended. But for most people, acting has an edge to it that can come over as ingenuine.

I don’t do 1hr sessions. But if I did, 10-2 would not be a good time for me. Interesting that it’s the busiest time for some…

No. There are plenty of clients here who have shared poor experiences across the spectrum of interaction. Hire him despite me. Knock yourself out. I care only insofar as I shared a very poor experience. After that, I don’t care whether you have a good or bad experience. I did my part. Don’t criticize me for trying to save you the headache. You read offense into this – prejudicially for I don’t know what reason.

I share your opinion on OF as a ripoff but I was trying to hone narrowly to the OP topic of a specific forum for OF. I don’t see the need.

Search Male Escorts & Best Gay Massage | Rent.Men RENT.MEN Search the best male escorts & gay-friendly masseurs and enjoy an amazing gay massage or gay escort... I hope that link works. But right there, simply putting in “FTM” renders 47 results. That’s more than you get with other searches that I would consider less niche. I didn’t do any further sleuthing, but you could cross-tab reference those usernames here in search to see if any have reviews.

There’s also the “pathetic” angle if you “need” to masturbate it must mean you aren’t able to win over someone for the real thing.

Some providers also seem annoyed they’re not the only gig in town too. Excuse me: I don’t have an exclusive contract with you.

Just put it in The Deli with a different number than 411. Or say OF in the subject. Seems sufficient for me 🤷🏼‍♂️ But what do I know?