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Data from four years ago is laughable. You can’t take one survey focused on one topic and another survey focused on another topic and say that the results from one are valid hypothetical results for the other. The data is better…than your conflation. You just don’t have the data you’re conflating. The old farts can’t laugh from the grave 🤷🏼‍♂️ If anything has shown us is the world changes and adapts, and while there are metarealities over time, the arc of history bends to change to accommodate new realities. Otherwise those who poo-pooed the necessity of indoor toilets in the 1920s would still be laughing – but we have indoor shitters now and would consider it an under the acceptable standard of living if someone didn’t. Just imagine if DCF found out a kid at the elementary school would come in and let slip his family was using an outhouse instead of an indoor toilet. Times change – whether the old cranks like it or not

Cited from an article in 2021. Hardly contemporary. Also…”plenty of surveys” is hearsay.

Still. You can’t make that assumption about the data provided. You’re simply looking to portray Gen Z in a poor light and pulling from here and pulling from there to do so. You make a jump that might not be warranted. When the older generations age out, companies will adapt. The thing about old farts is they die and all those pesky youngins come in and change “the way it always was. And what, exactly, does your opening line with “ok Boomer” have to do with what I said? Another red herring. I did, admittedly, refer to folks who weren’t Gen Z, but it wasn’t a dismissive remark about Boomers. You once again imported meaning that wasn’t there in order to attack something not at hand.

False association. The article didn’t stipulate that the applicants were looking to work from home. You assigned that and then proceeded to assail that. I know plenty of folks who aren’t Gen Z who expect to keep getting paid what they were pre-pandemic when they worked from an office but transitioned to primarily working from home during Covid. Nonetheless, you imported WFH the discussion where it wasn’t before. It’s almost like you enjoy ridiculing Gen Z, @Lotus-eater.

Even this fails to appropriately understand the world changes. Today’s world is different from 1925. And 2055 will be different from today. Some homes in America didn’t have indoor plumbing in 1925. Today not having indoor plumbing is borderline if not outright unconscionable. The idea that today’s convenience is tomorrow’s necessity is nothing new. And each generation bitches about the next generation requiring what once was seen as convenience, which was once luxury. Flush toilets weren’t a thing for Cæsar…No Billy Jo has one in his doublewide on the bayou.

That’s because companies don’t actually care about their employees. Employees are a liability and an expense – hence the mentality of simply axing them in the federal government right now. My board at work a few years back was faced with a tough budget year. The solution the Finance Committee sent us was to slash employee salaries. The Finance Committee is made up of Boomers and Gen X. They couldn’t fathom how cutting salaries at a non-profit was a huge morale blow. The board sent it back and demanded other things be cut. The point is that a certain generation just accepts human capital as expendable. It’s nice to see millennials and Gen Z pushing back against that, frankly, unethical view. The highest good isn’t necessarily just turning over a higher revenue.

Aside… It always amazes me which topics take off to multiple pages and which ones get no traction. To me, this topic at this stage can be summed up with the gif below:

👏🏻 👏🏻 @Danny-Darko makes a huuuuuuge generalization if he truly believes that gay men are putting on a show or costume if they’re masculine…or vice versa. I know effeminate straight men and masculine gay men. It’s personality…

That’s why, while I agree with @Jamie21that laughing bothers them and they hate it, what really they can’t stand is outright ignoring their demands, such as not answering the question – after saying I wouldn’t engage anymore – “Where do you get your news.” To him, that was a deciding factor on whatever merits-based assessment he uses to determine someone’s worthiness for respect. By not engaging that, I robbed him not only of his only source of conversational ammo but also silently told him I don’t kowtow to his infantile demands simply because he makes them.

Hence why I didn’t engage after I said I was done. But where do they come off thinking they have that power? Obviously someone has given it to them or told them they deserve it.

Fell into a trap. I know better. I do. But there I was, wasting my time in a Facebook political discussion with a straight, white, Gen X/Boomer man. You already know how this went. I made my points clear, articulate, thoughtful. He responded with reheated talking points, the kind that feel like they’ve been sitting under a heat lamp at a gas station deli for a few decades. Not an original thought or articulation… Then he asks: Where do you get your news? Ah, the question. The one meant to invalidate anything I just said, because if I name a source that isn’t Fox, the Wall Street Journal opinion section, or some crypto-bro podcast, I might as well have said, I hear the voices of Karl Marx whispering to me in my sleep. But I’m not new to this, so I tell him I’m not answering because it would just lead to him dismissing me. And wouldn’t you know it? He keeps going. I literally say I’m done. I lay it out. I remove myself. And yet he keeps responding. More talking points. No original thoughts. Asking again where I get my news. As if I owe him an answer. As if he’s entitled to a response. And that’s s what gets me. The entitlement. The assumption that they are always owed the last word. That they speak, and the world must pause to marvel at their wisdom. That their worldview is the default setting for reality, and we are simply guests in it. Where does this come from? Who gave them this confidence? Because I know damn well it wasn’t merit. I’ve seen this play out in every setting imaginable. They dominate conversations, dismiss any challenge, and yet somehow we’re the ones accused of being emotional, uninformed, or too sensitive. We’ve all watched them pull this move at family gatherings, in the workplace, even in our own spaces. It’s especially funny because Gen X men like to pretend they’re above it all, but put them in a room with a millennial or Gen Z who dares to push back, and suddenly they’re one step away from typing in all caps about not respecting authority. Boomers at least have the excuse of being Boomers. Gen X? You were right there when the world was shifting, but instead of rolling with it, half of you just aged into Joe Rogan subscribers. So tell me…why do they think they’re the final authority on everything? And how do you handle it when they just keep talking?

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You can learn new things…if you want. That’s all I’m saying. It’s not age-dependent.

My experience is that a lot of Boomers do know how to use technology when it benefits them. When it becomes a responsibility or a burden, then they’re analphabets. Ignorance by convenience, not age. For example, I work with a lot of (A LOT) of boomers. They are constantly sharing shit on FB - stupid, trite shit. And political misinformation a lot of times too. Anyhow, point is, they know how to like and share. When our organization has a campaign or some event or whatever and the promotional materials are put on social media, especially FB, and we tell the members and affiliates to like and share to drive up interaction and visibility, the Boomers are the first to say, “I don’t understand all this technology.” No, Myrtle. You just don’t want to because I’ve seen you share a gazillion stupid cat reels and a gazillion saccharine acrostics.

Wow. I guess I’m out of touch. I don’t know what G is…

Yes. But it’s a shame too. There is nothing new under the sun.

Older age shown as major risk factor in falling for phishing scams » McKnight Brain Institute » University of Florida MBI.UFL.EDU Easy-to-administer lab test offers strong indicator of who is most susceptible, new study shows. Seek…and you shall find. Maybe the idea of generalizing based on age isn’t a good idea after all? 🤨 Or do we still like judgment calls based on our preconceived notions?

Amazing how that works…Bitch about the ineptitude and unreadiness for the world that Millennials and Gen Z are, yet in an ever increasing technology-driven world, it’s the Millennials and Gen Z who have to assist Boomers with this fundamental skill. It’s almost like the Boomers are ill-equipped to deal with a society that’s changing!

Cf…re: offensive sweeping conclusions based on age It’s pretty a known fact that boomers are not nearly as tech savvy as later generations and that they struggle. Sure – some are proficient, but most are bumbling about it…and will say so quite openly, almost as exculpatory justification for why they shouldn’t be responsible for something that requires technological understanding.

…it’s give-and-take when some do it but but when I and some others do it’s rich? 🤨

I’ve gotten two different spam texts from two different clearly not official email addresses today telling me to pay my PA toll taxes to avoid legal proceedings. I look at them and wonder how people fall for this shit. Then I think – Boomers…technology…right…clear now.

I really don’t know why these guys don’t update their photos. I mean, I do. But it’s so dishonest. And then clients are painted as the ones who deceive…

I agree. This is technically illegal, all this, but people are so paranoid. Don’t be a jerk and you’ll be fine.