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It’s one of the few areas where clients have the upper hand in this business. No one cares about a clients brand - if there’s a problem they can create a new profile, get a burner number etc and no one will be the wiser, harder for a provider where accumulated value is based on reputation, branding etc

To add to the list, a provider once said when I made a similar joke (back handed compliment) about how he was so good he was going to bankrupt me “baby, if you keep making jokes about my rates I’m going to start joking about your performance …” … ouch …

Nothing I guess. Plus you score a few more points on the member scorometer as a newbie as we react.

Be careful … sometimes this can be the prelude to requests for money, a place to crash for a few days etc Not always, but it can happen

Queens is the most diverse place on the planet … if it exists anywhere you’ll find it there! 😊

911 is obligated to come to you if you have need. a provider isn’t, it’s a negotiation.

I rarely make appointments other than the day of - and one of the big reasons is this, as it happened quite a few times (including a couple of forfeited deposits so that’s not the reason as far as I’m concerned). More frequent was when I reached out to confirm only then would they tell me they couldn’t make it anymore (so maybe they would have ghosted if I hadn’t?) I’ve even had ghosting when making an appointment 3-4 hours before the scheduled time - I call / text etc to confirm at every step of my journey to minimize time wasted in event that happens m.

I was just making a joke … don’t read too much into it. yes providers have complimented me on all the things you mention, frequently. Is it “sincere” however? As in did the person issuing the compliment genuinely feel what he expressed verbally (and non verbally 😊)? Who knows? more importantly, who cares? when you say “like it has happened to others” (ie they have received sincere compliments from providers and have reported back) - how can they, similarly, be sure that the compliments are “sincere”? If they seek that validation and feel like they received it, great. If they weren’t seeking it and it was a pleasant surprise, also great. and so forth and so forth. In this hobby we seek an experience made up of many components - and these can be very personal and differ from person to person. I personally don’t need to leave feeling like the provider has validated my looks or skills etc so I don’t put too much weight on all this.

If the question is about wanting anonymity with RM (ie they don’t get your details) one option is to use a cloaked credit card ( many card providers offer this) - so RM doesn’t get your details but it will still show up on your statement (so your ba k will see what you paid for)

There’s of course the other aspect. The industry is unregulated and in some geographies ambiguous legally. It is also by its nature very private and with stigma for both clients and providers (and kudos to those who don’t feel that way). So they are prepared to accept involuntary premiums / discounts and bad behavior as the price of discretion. This is one aspect that holds back natural market forces addressing over (or maybe under) pricing. RM reviews and discussion on this forum, while helpful, don’t count as meaningful regulation despite best intentions; participation is unrepresentative and with bias, and there is no enforcement ability.

Note to providers: if you want a raise, don’t provide the part of your service that lets your clients think they are great in bed … 😜 (nothing personal of course, I know nothing about you, but couldn’t resist)

I hope you are ok, particularly in terms of mental stress. I’d urge people on these types of matters to consult their doctors as first option. 24/7 assistance is available even if you don’t have insurance, doesn’t have to be your regular provider, and the hassle of seeking it out is better than acting on any incorrect or unqualified response from our community. And if you need any immediate prescriptions or treatment, no one here can provide that for you. After the fact guidance or sharing experiences can of course be welcome and helpful. What do the moderators think? I say this not to criticize the OP - but to ensure similar questions are never dealt with incorrectly - we are not medical professionals.

Make sure you confirm what he will and won’t do. Many “straight” providers (including this one, who I can speak of from experience) will be more selective about some services (eg kissing) sometimes based on the client, and sometimes they may not even offer provide at all, so not everything listed to ensure they show up in your searches is actually on the table. Best not to be disappointed and pay for the privilege of of having “straight entitlement” thrown at you (for the record, my experience was of trying to set something up with this particular provider, though I ended up not doing so because of some of these issues - happy to go into more by DM if anyone wants).

… and his profile is no longer available

To add to that … standard strategy applying to a lot of scenarios, if you feel you have a lot to lose (you may not, actually, in the big scheme of things) don’t reveal your insecurities; if your counterparty is “not a nice guy” you are handing him a weapon.

Well don’t assume everyone is desperate to be with him … I can’t be the only one turned off by attitude

I think there’s a perception among many that a masseur gets you an abridged escort experience (even if for the same session time) for less $. some masseurs volunteer themselves as top or bottom … unless they mean simulation I don’t see what that is other than saying they’re open to … everything. I’ve always assumed that means — it’s on offer but you have to discuss with me how ($) that may work

He had “white” in his profile name in several different incarnations (eg Bigwhitecock in this thread) which I always found a little odd. I looked at his profile once, never engaged, but since then he reached out every couple of months, often with a new name. He must have changed it again as the link above doesn’t work.

To me, he ceases to be cute once the attitude comes out - he’s then no different from anyone I might meet online the regular way. At first I thought he might not be a native English speaker and could that explain some of the abruptness but the behavior patterns are definitely there. Which reminds me he also hit me up on one of the online apps. He sent his pic - I didn’t respond as I recognized him straight away, and he then sent a follow up 10 mins later basically expressing surprise that I wouldn’t drop everything to reply. wasn’t clear from either his profile or his texts to me on that app whether he was looking to find clients or hookups.

To be clear, I’m actually saying I suspect those providers were “performing” - I don’t think it was genuine or take all that as a compliment at all (mainly because it’s not of interest to me), and if anything the situation becomes more stressful for me. So not bragging at all. Likewise I’m not saying the others are being dishonest or exaggerating anything in describing events - just that they may be misinterpreting the motivation of the behavior they describe, which they ascribe to their good looks etc when it may really be a provider just doing their job of making a client feel the best they can about themselves. I actually asked one provider about this specific issue of climaxing - as he asked me if I wanted him to or not. When I asked him why would a provider choose to do so if the client wasn’t requesting it, he said it may be to release tension / stress from the session, and to help them “come down” more quickly after the session ends. He pointed out that if providers have a problem being able to perform they are loaded with injections and pills so “saving” it for the next client wasn’t necessarily a reason to hold back.

Haha maybe the providers were just extra brilliant, making the experience seem real and memorable. I always chuckle when some on here post about how they are so hot etc that providers really enjoy being with them more than other clients, give them discounts or makes it easier for them to get appointments etc. I don’t think they realize they are likely with really good providers who make them and all their clients feel validated and desired, as they should, from such an encounter.

It may be that you need to explain this to your provider before the session begins. They are probably going on what they assume most clients want. And it adds pressure to them. Im the opposite with a provider a don’t need or even want them to climax - and a performance synchronized with when time runs out is fine with me if convincing, but unnecessary - though that’s just me. Every so often I’ll actually find myself with providers who want to climax which I’ve never understood since I assumed they’d want to save that for a potential client who might care. And because I always assume this is not actually a genuine experience. I even had providers expressing frustration as they couldn’t get off by the time our session ended as if they were a real hookup or bf. I clearly remember one who insisted on prolonging for 10 mins or so to allow him to climax … (no extra charge for me) and another who kept saying he needed to climax and just needed a few more minutes, but that it would cost me… in 15 min increments. With the latter I made my excuses and got up to get ready … and he acted like a resentful real life partner - I was so selfish getting him close and now leaving, teasing him not letting him have his own pleasure etc - I said to him “I can’t pay you more” (and that’s a point on principle rather than about being cheap, given how the extra cost was introduced) and he just sat there glaring at me stroking his equipment as I made my way out. Yes, I realize he sounds odd and unprofessional but it made the experience feel real which is the ultimate thrill I guess.

There’s a similar place about a mile south … uncle Charlie’s near grand central though I haven’t been in many years. I was introduced to it as a grungier version of townhouse , where the providers, clients and regular hookup options (not to mention cocktails) were far less expensive. younger at the older end and older at the younger (if that makes sense) as I recall

Thank you for articulating that. I’m four decades away from my 80s if I make it that far but do feel that our demographic forgets this reality. See it on this forum often as well and the subject is poignantly relevant when discussing things like why do some seek out providers, should providers have the right to reject (aka ask for a photo) etc

He is known for that, and for having some things to say sometimes on his analysis of what you send (or don’t send). I know this from the experience of others. For the record I once viewed his profile, never responded when he demanded the same things of me, and he kept asking me for a few days. I finally replied and politely told him I wasn’t interested, and his response was far from pleasant.