DapperGent

When you aren't that into someone you might have more fun with them if they are with someone else.
Don't take it as an insult. There's no predicting what someone is into.
 
 

I've arranged this as a client a number of times over the years and pay each escort their standard rate. If their rates are different by say $50 or so per hour, I put the money in separate envelopes with their names before the encounter. Never had a problem and some of these I have seen again with a different escort partner. Mix and match, I call it. 

As a client, I've thought about hiring two escorts for a threesome, not because the one escort is inadequate but because threesomes can be a lot of fun. However, I wouldn't mention it during a session for the very reason you mentioned - doing so can make the escort feel inadequate! I also wouldn't expect the escort to coordinate, unless he had other escorts with whom he did threesomes. Even then, I'd still make the arrangements unless the escort wanted to do so.
 

Agreed. I'm a total wuss when it comes to pain.

I think everyone should play out their sexual fantasies while our libido and bodies still can. I came out of the closet after my divorce in my 30s and I’ve been experimenting with abandon in a way making up for the lost time… Back to the topic! I particularly do not like the aspects of pain when it comes to a rape fantasy but I’d prefer a scenario where I visit a friend who happens to have a guest over, they get me drunk or high enough to take advantage of me. I would attempt to resist their touches but they’ll talk me into it since I’m at their mercy literally… that’s a hot fantasy I’m looking to play out with trustworthy service providers.

I think everyone should play out their sexual fantasies while our libido and bodies still can. I came out of the closet after my divorce in my 30s and I’ve been experimenting with abandon in a way making up for the lost time… Back to the topic! I particularly do not like the aspects of pain when it comes to a rape fantasy but I’d prefer a scenario where I visit a friend who happens to have a guest over, they get me drunk or high enough to take advantage of me. I would attempt to resist their touches but they’ll talk me into it since I’m at their mercy literally… that’s a hot fantasy I’m looking to play out with trustworthy service providers.

I Second that. I think because the motivations (other than lust) are different, we don’t see the industry with bitterness. In other words, when I decide to hire someone is because there are components that are as if not more important besides their looks. I came out of the close in my 30s but only started hiring in my 40s because one my professional life has become too demanding to spend hours on end browsing and secondly, I’m attracted to certain type of men and big on roleplaying (not everyone is big on verbal in bed) so it requires for me to be very discriminating before agreeing. I have no problem sending someone home (or leaving their place) if they don’t look like in their pictures or they suck at fantasy play. I understand where your pain comes from but you also have to take responsibility on all that 98% of escorts that were not good and took you awhile to come to a point of realization. Thank you for sharing, great topic.

Our experiences have not been nearly as bad as the OP described. Maybe it’s bc we’re in NYC. But most of the guys we’ve hired do look like their pics - some even better. 
 
Our primary reason for hiring is that it’s easier then wasting time on Grindr and Scruff. We’ve had a couple of duds in our time hiring, but probably 80% positive. But I read reviews. I check their social media. I come on here. 
 
I do think you have to be discriminating. What we look for more than anything is someone who seems to genuinely enjoy this work. 

I think everyone should play out their sexual fantasies while our libido and bodies still can. I came out of the closet after my divorce in my 30s and I’ve been experimenting with abandon in a way making up for the lost time… Back to the topic! I particularly do not like the aspects of pain when it comes to a rape fantasy but I’d prefer a scenario where I visit a friend who happens to have a guest over, they get me drunk or high enough to take advantage of me. I would attempt to resist their touches but they’ll talk me into it since I’m at their mercy literally… that’s a hot fantasy I’m looking to play out with trustworthy service providers.

In my youth I would go to sex parties and have sex with more than 40 people in one night . I think my max for ejaculations was seven in one evening. Now in my 50s I can still do three over the course of an evening. Its all about your testosterone levels ..which vary dramatically from person to person. Obviously mine are ridiculously high.

In my twenties, I was so horny that I had no trouble either maintaining an erection or getting a new one after having an orgasm.  I'd have no trouble getting it up and cumming three or four times per day.  I don't remember when that changed -- sometime in my thirties, I'd guess.  But I have met men much older than that whose sex drive is so strong that they can also have an orgasm and keep going, so I think this is an individual thing.  The bottom line (pun intended) is that if you want to be an escort who advertises as a top, then don't take more clients than you can manage.  If that's one per day for you, then respect your limit. 

Most I’d do is 3 a day. Use viagra if I’ve got a few clients in a day but it’s quite unusual to see 3 in a day. I wouldn’t normally schedule that. It’s also not necessary to be horny, although I think the more sex you have the more horny you get. But often I’m not horny before seeing a client, it’s still possible to perform, and in doing that I become horny, if that makes sense? 

(I tried searching for an existing discussion, but they seem to be back in the early 2000s.) Is it wrong to want this? For myself, mind you, or perhaps as a third party with a top and consenting bottom. "But that's not rape," you'll say. Okay... Simulated rape.
I talked to a provider I trust and he's willing to go along with idea, whenever we can get our calendars in sync.

Rape fantasy is pretty common and simulated rape is very hot. Make sure you have a safe word or another means of interrupting a scene if things get too rough (which is okay to do). Actually being raped, not so much, doesn't matter how hot the rapist is.

For me being a porn star is not deciding factor when paying “premium”, for me it’s a package of physical attributes and what are they selling (personality is as important but there’s no way to know that until after meeting them): Is it just their body or body part/s, a perceived attitude or apparent behavior, does he specializes in a kink you are into, his profile seems he is down to roleplaying or something that makes him stands out, perhaps he has college education and can offer exceptional conversation on top of sex, ect. Perhaps, if you see them as people and not just as fast food items you could have a small but high quality rotation of men servicing you 😎

Agreed.  
There have been a lot of posts lately, clogging up various sub-forums that don't really fit the bill.
 

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I know who you are talking about, Bert knows how to use those hands… Concurring with @KeepItReal I would approach the subject during the massage, what are your expectations and he ought to tell you or give you his number.

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I am but, that’s not to say my Clients formulate a clear understanding of who I am in their mind~ When the focus is on their comfort and needs, there is less room/time/consideration to explore who I am~ So, they aren’t always looking, (or care to see), who I am despite being open about it~ Those who take the time and care to explore who I am see me differently then those who only take the time to have me provide for them~ 
 On the other hand… I have lots of long time Clients and we’ve grown together over the years, share life changes etc.~ I thrive/relish/invest myself fully in the mutual experience long term~ 
 Some people only want to know who I am when I’m with them~ They don’t want to know anything about my life escorting outside of my experience with them~ They miss a big slice of who I am as a human being~ 
 Others don’t like to be open about their experiences hiring or playing with others~ These self and mutual honesties vary even in non hire relationships~ For example: I’ve been at  social events in the past where there is a couple claiming exclusivity to each other but, in reality they have both hired me without disclosing that to each other~ Do they know each other outside of their own assumed relationship~?
 

Reminds me of a sociology professor I had who basically said that employers pay employees to set themselves (particularly their emotional selves) aside.  His point was that workers are not just paid to accomplish a task but also to do so without letting themselves get in the way of work.  My favorite escorts have been men who are a good mix of being genuine and providing fantasy.  If someone is too detached, it's very difficult for me to have fun.  I have no delusions that these guys would have chosen to get in bed with me if they weren't working, but a good escort is someone who can create pleasure in the moment with clients and not convey, even subtly, that the only reason they are there is money. 

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