Questioned by hotel security

[AdamSmith]

Back to theme of Hotel Staff Have Seen It All...

 

Maybe not altogether, when they're in Bible country and new to the job! During a conference in Charlotte, I arranged an overnight with an escort who was twenty at the time, and looked even younger. Late evening we ordered room service. When the delivery boy -- twenty-ish, clean-scrubbed earnest Sunday School looks -- came in bearing our tray, he espied yours truly opening the door in business shirt and slacks.

 

Then, seated at the desk playing with the laptop, my gorgeous twink, clad in naught but jockeys and wife-beater.

 

I have never before or since seen anybody's eyes come so close to jumping out of their sockets.

[whipped guy]

Well the only two interesting experiences I have had with hotel staff were once I laid all my toys neatly on the bed for future use as I tend to be highly organized I then went out to dinner. When I returned I found a welcome gift from hotel management. I'm sure the guy who delivered it had seen worse.

 

Another time I had a late check out. The maid thought I had left snd walked into the room while I was tied to the bed. Again I'm sure she had experienced crazier things.

 

Oh, then there was the time that I was with a friend who was on one of those apps that tells you how many inches or miles away a given person is... and we were in the hotel lounge and a hotel employee was in the same room only a few feet away... gee! A gay person working in a hotel! That's a new one!!!

[+ glennnn]

I have this dark foreboding that I will be challenged by security at the Canyon Club Hotel.

 

 

And then you and the security guy will slip into a handy room to work out your differences...... It's Palm Springs!!!!

[+ Lance_Navarro]

Sort of like the Ramada in WeHo!

 

I have no idea what you're talking about!

[Tonyko]

I LOVE HOTELS LOL!! Esp here in NYC always sumthin exciting about going to meet someone there. ONCE on one of my meets with T.B, we met downstairs at the bar of his Midtown hotel like always to have a drink and catch up. I was dressed from a college reunion din I'd come from, and he was in his hot dress shirt and pants. When we stepped into the elevator to head up (I've got a good few years on him) THERE were two typical Southern Belle tourist gals, one closer to his age one closer to mine. AND OMFG THEM EYES WERE BATTIN' AT USSSSSS LOL. THEY EVEN LEANED BACK AGAINST THE SIDE WALL TO FACE US WITH THEM COME HITHER LOOKS LOL. Think we may have nodded a polite hello to them etc, BUT I just LOVED that they had NO idea what these two guys they were flirtin' with would be doing up in that room in ten minutes lol!!!!

[MikeBiDude]

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I LOVE HOTELS LOL!! Esp here in NYC always sumthin exciting about going to meet someone there. ONCE on one of my meets with T.B, we met downstairs at the bar of his Midtown hotel like always to have a drink and catch up. I was dressed from a college reunion din I'd come from, and he was in his hot dress shirt and pants. When we stepped into the elevator to head up (I've got a good few years on him) THERE were two typical Southern Belle tourist gals, one closer to his age one closer to mine. AND OMFG THEM EYES WERE BATTIN' AT USSSSSS LOL. THEY EVEN LEANED BACK AGAINST THE SIDE WALL TO FACE US WITH THEM COME HITHER LOOKS LOL. Think we may have nodded a polite hello to them etc, BUT I just LOVED that they had NO idea what these two guys they were flirtin' with would be doing up in that room in ten minutes lol!!!!

there would have been four of us up in that room if it had been me, lol!!

[corymonroe]

Sorry to say this, but if hotel staff are seeing your presence as something strange and they're finding a need to question you about it, then I suspect you must be giving them a reason to ask invading questions.

 

I have found myself on numerous occasions waiting at or near a hotel elevator for family, friends, or business colleagues, at all hours. I'm known to pace, stare out windows, or sit on furniture while I impatiently wait. No hotel employee has ever asked if I needed help. I guess it's because I look as though I'm supposed to be where I am when they run into me.

[+ Funguy]

I have been known to use the stairs if the room is 3rd floor or lower.

[+ azdr0710]

while helping myself to the free breakfast once (wearing what I wear to sleep in and probably looking like death warmed over), a manager at some La Quinta or similar in Palm Desert accosted me and accused me of not paying my bill.......took a few minutes to get an apology out of him....I suppose I could've really raised holy hell and get a free room out of it, but I'm not that kinda guy......

 

that's my best "questioned by hotel security" story I have......

[AdamSmith]

Sorry to say this, but if hotel staff are seeing your presence as something strange and they're finding a need to question you about it, then I suspect you must be giving them a reason to ask invading questions.

 

I have found myself on numerous occasions waiting at or near a hotel elevator for family, friends, or business colleagues, at all hours. I'm known to pace, stare out windows, or sit on furniture while I impatiently wait. No hotel employee has ever asked if I needed help. I guess it's because I look as though I'm supposed to be where I am when they run into me.

The key to it all.

 

I've waltzed all manner of visibly 'inappropriate' partners through hotel lobbies with n'er a skip.

 

You just have to act like who you are, namely a proper paying guest on normal behavior who is within all his rights to be there carrying on with life in whatever manner he wishes to do so. They are your hosts, not your guards & overseers.

 

Guilty feelings spark guilty-looking behavior. (Just ask Comey! )

[+ sync]

Sorry to say this, but if hotel staff are seeing your presence as something strange and they're finding a need to question you about it, then I suspect you must be giving them a reason to ask invading questions.

 

I have found myself on numerous occasions waiting at or near a hotel elevator for family, friends, or business colleagues, at all hours. I'm known to pace, stare out windows, or sit on furniture while I impatiently wait. No hotel employee has ever asked if I needed help. I guess it's because I look as though I'm supposed to be where I am when they run into me.

 

The key to it all.

 

I've waltzed all manner of visibly 'inappropriate' partners through hotel lobbies with n'er a skip.

 

You just have to act like who you are, namely a proper paying guest on normal behavior who is within all his rights to be there carrying on with life in whatever manner he wishes to do so. They are your hosts, not your guards & overseers.

 

Guilty feelings spark guilty-looking behavior. (Just ask Comey! )

 

I can understand your views having some merit, however, a person loitering who is identifiably Muslim, Mexican, or another minority, may have a different experience.

[rvwnsd]

If I was staying at a hotel, not expecting a visitor, and someone knocked on my door twice, I would call hotel security. If someone was standing or pacing in the hallway I would also call security. That's not to say you were doing anything wrong or are "at fault." It is to say that a hotel's job is to keep its guests safe.

 

Like @AdamSmith , I've met escorts at hotels a number of times in a number of different settings. Never a problem. I've also used restrooms and been directed to hotels' complimentary guest "manager's receptions" when I have not been staying at the hotel. The key, as others have stated, is to look like you belong.

[+ Keith30309]

The key to it all.

 

I've waltzed all manner of visibly 'inappropriate' partners through hotel lobbies with n'er a skip.

 

You just have to act like who you are, namely a proper paying guest on normal behavior who is within all his rights to be there carrying on with life in whatever manner he wishes to do so. They are your hosts, not your guards & overseers.

 

Guilty feelings spark guilty-looking behavior. (Just ask Comey! )

Well said!

 

Carry yourself with a confident demeanor, be polite to staff and everyone else and don't anticipate any need to explain who you are or what you are doing. I've escorted a few guys (and one couple) thru hotel lobbies and never been asked anything other than was I having a nice evening.

[AdamSmith]

I can understand your views having some merit, however, a person loitering who is identifiably Muslim, Mexican, or another minority, may have a different experience.

I think your choice of verb is the giveaway. Nobody should "loiter" around a hotel. As noted by several just above, people should be in hotels visibly intent on their intended business. Whatever that may be.

[LivingnLA]

I think your choice of verb is the giveaway. Nobody should "loiter" around a hotel. As noted by several just above, people should be in hotels visibly intent on their intended business. Whatever that may be.

 

Very true, but @sync is also correct that racial profiling frequently occurs. In a fair number of places around the country, if you are clearly not white, you will be hassled even if you're "visibly intent" on "intended business" since many people have certain negative assumptions about non-whites.

[+ sync]

I think your choice of verb is the giveaway. Nobody should "loiter" around a hotel. As noted by several just above, people should be in hotels visibly intent on their intended business. Whatever that may be.

 

Just to clarify my use of the verb "loiter," I was referencing the scenario described in corymonroe's post "I have found myself on numerous occasions waiting at or near a hotel elevator for family, friends, or business colleagues, at all hours. I'm known to pace, stare out windows, or sit on furniture while I impatiently wait." Anyone could find himself/herself in a similar waiting (loitering) situation at a hotel.

[Larstrup]

I've waltzed all manner of visibly 'inappropriate' partners through hotel lobbies with n'er a skip.

 

But then there was that one business trip to NYC and.......

 

 

[corymonroe]

I think waiting aimlessly and waiting impatiently are two different things. I don't believe I was "loitering" in my earlier description.

[marylander1940]

Very true, but @sync is also correct that racial profiling frequently occurs. In a fair number of places around the country, if you are clearly not white, you will be hassled even if you're "visibly intent" on "intended business" since many people have certain negative assumptions about non-whites.

 

[FilmGeek]

I'm no stranger to hotels, I live in them for extended periods of time for work. I think what caught me was the hotel staff walking down the hallway as a frustrated guest opened the door and I had to apologize and tell him I had the wrong room, and then the same hotel staff guy finding me waiting at the elevators a few minutes later. If it hadn't been for unfortunate timing, I would have been fine.

[+ sync]

I think waiting aimlessly and waiting impatiently are two different things. I don't believe I was "loitering" in my earlier description.

 

Hi Corymonroe,

I have the sensation from your post and also Adam Smith's post that my use of the word loiter is somehow offensive. I ask for your understanding that my use of it was never intended to be an offense. To an observer, the difference between waiting aimlessly and waiting impatiently may not be apparent. In support of my use of the word loiter, I offer the following definition from Dictionary.com (you will notice the "or as if").

 

loiter

 

[loi-ter]

 

verb (used without object)

1.

to linger aimlessly or as if aimless in or about a place:

to loiter around the bus terminal.

 

 

I shall be more prudent in my use of the word loiter in the future.

[AdamSmith]

Just to clarify my use of the verb "loiter," I was referencing the scenario described in corymonroe's post "I have found myself on numerous occasions waiting at or near a hotel elevator for family, friends, or business colleagues, at all hours. I'm known to pace, stare out windows, or sit on furniture while I impatiently wait." Anyone could find himself/herself in a similar waiting (loitering) situation at a hotel.

Federal civil rights law provides severe legal recourse against any place of public accommodation doing any least thing that could be seen as discriminatory against any person because of his ethnic, religious or other identity. I work closely with hotel management in organizing business conferences on their properties, and their profession takes scrupulous pains -- almost paranoic pains, justifiably so -- to be utterly and recordably observant of those civil rights regulations. The very easily reaped legal penalties for any least even perceived violations are yuge. Title II full text: http://users.wfu.edu/zulick/341/civilrightsact1964.html

 

If you could go beyond the generalities and tell specifically what you've seen happen to people because of their being "identifiably Muslim, Mexican, or another minority," under what conditions, by which hotel brands, in which city/cities, and how long ago, those details would help to understand the abuses.

[AdamSmith]

But then there was that one business trip to NYC and.......

 

That one alas showed up in the financial records demanded by the divorce magistrate.

 

Easy cum, easy go!

[+ sync]

Federal civil rights law provides severe legal recourse against any place of public accommodation doing any least thing that could be seen as discriminatory against any person because of his ethnic, religious or other identity. I work closely with hotel management in organizing business conferences on their properties, and their profession takes scrupulous pains -- almost paranoic pains, justifiably so -- to be utterly and recordably observant of those civil rights regulations. The very easily reaped legal penalties for any least even perceived violations are yuge. Title II full text: http://users.wfu.edu/zulick/341/civilrightsact1964.html

 

If you could go beyond the generalities and tell specifically what you've seen happen to people because of their being "identifiably Muslim, Mexican, or another minority," under what conditions, by which hotel brands, in which city/cities, and how long ago, those details would help to understand the abuses.

 

I wouldn't go beyond the generalities, which is why I have taken to putting "loiter" in quotation marks, per current federal administration standards.

[AdamSmith]

I wouldn't go beyond the generalities, which is why I have taken to putting "loiter" in quotation marks, per current federal administration standards.

You're protecting the identity of some hospitality establishment that you know engages in racial discrimination and profiling?

 

Would not the responsible citizen's duty be to report them? Not doing so undercuts your claim of concern.

 

Scratching my head.