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[Guest Cruiser04]

6 hours ago, Coolwave35 said:

I will PM you his face if you’d like, but a few threads up, I posted a link to his very erect dick.

Yes please

[guru68]

Zander Sparks (or another scammer) has appeared again on SA, this time in LA:

https://members.seeking.com/member/3c7af73b-f109-42e0-802c-90ffba987259

 

 

Edited October 8, 2021 by guru68

[Pd1_jap]

On 9/19/2021 at 1:54 PM, Coolwave35 said:

You hit the nail on the head. I told him while we’re in Paris, it may be fun for him to shoot with a photographer and memorialize the trip with some professional photos he could have forever. He was soooooo excited.  It became a costly part of the trip but he’s totally worth it and I’m glad it makes him happy.  He then goes a little extra to make me happy. 
 

Having this layer of added consideration is definitely interesting and more challenging to navigate than your typical “how much to do this to me for this long” conversation I mastered ages ago. 

You treat people like the best people and magically they give you the best they have to offer. There's no replacement for sincere human kindness. Good on you brother!

[+ goosh69]

So I’ve given that site another try and…we’ll, nothing has changed even now that the guys are mostly vaxxed. Flaky guys who take weeks to even read an email (it says when an email has been read). Perhaps 10% of the time they reply after reading, with something lame like “hey!” Or “what’s up?”. Weeks more go by, and eventually I give up.

OR they list themselves as in your city and when you finally get them to text or WhatsApp or FaceTime you…it turns out that they recently moved back home to the Midwest and are maybe looking for a sugar daddy to possibly fund  their return to the big city. Even though you’ve never met in person. Like I’ll buy a plane ticket for someone I don’t know. Not going to happen.

it’s a slog. 

Edited October 20, 2021 by goosh69

[mixer17]

On 10/19/2021 at 12:13 PM, goosh69 said:

So I’ve given that site another try and…we’ll, nothing has changed even now that the guys are mostly vaxxed. Flaky guys who take weeks to even read an email (it says when an email has been read). Perhaps 10% of the time they reply after reading, with something lame like “hey!” Or “what’s up?”. Weeks more go by, and eventually I give up.

OR they list themselves as in your city and when you finally get them to text or WhatsApp or FaceTime you…it turns out that they recently moved back home to the Midwest and are maybe looking for a sugar daddy to possibly fund  their return to the big city. Even though you’ve never met in person. Like I’ll buy a plane ticket for someone I don’t know. Not going to happen.

it’s a slog. 

I have the same difficulty.  the guys aren't really logging in to reply at all. 

[EastCoastBtm]

I just joined 'Seeking' this morning and I'm a little underwhelmed, but willing to give it a try.

I'm curious and skeptical on many levels and surprised how many guys have looking for 'Men/Women' with profiles talking about sugar mommas.  Are they just opportunists?  

My first message as a paying member from a guy (who also happens to have "Looking for: Men/Women" today was - "I'm always interested in anything that gives me a financial gain ."

I also recognize a few pics from RM providers and boy some of their SA profiles are Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde compared to their RM profiles.

I plan on being VERY guarded for now and not share much personal information.  I do have my sights set on one guy, older who appears to be looking for some 'high end' companionship with a physical component.

Any advice for the newbie?  Things like.... What to write in the profile?  How to balance desire for sex with the companionship components.

[Studsearcher]

Take the conversation off-site before discussing anything physical or your account will get banned. Think about your ideal arrangement and be upfront and honest. It’s easy to waste a LOT of time on that site if you aren’t direct about expectations. But again, take the conversation off-site.

I also recommend immediately blocking anyone who messages you that you aren’t interested in, so they can’t make a frivolous complaint about you. 

[+ The Big Guy]

How does one get comfortable to give out personal info (e.g. non burner phone number) on a site like this?  Seems risky but unless you are willing to expose yourself a bit, I don’t see how you progress a possible relationship.  

[+ goosh69]

10 minutes ago, The Big Guy said:

How does one get comfortable to give out personal info (e.g. non burner phone number) on a site like this?  Seems risky but unless you are willing to expose yourself a bit, I don’t see how you progress a possible relationship.  

WhatApp.

[DMICS]

I signed up my 1st Seeking account a few weeks back. It's just basic so sadly I don't see all the messages I've gotten so far. I'm not paying that $99 membership, but from the sounds of it in these posts there's a lot of time wasting so money saved I guess lol.

[EastCoastBtm]

Well... I think I just wasted $250. 

Every guy wants 'mentorship' and then asks for me to pay their bills...... quite frankly... fuck me or fuck that.  Wish I could put something subliminal in either stating something about them being a top.....

I know this isn't rent.men, but I'd like to think it's a dating site where people of unequal financial status can meet.... I feel stupid and naive.  I'd be more open to paying for 'friendship' and spending real life face time with someone if there were more local guys, but Philly area has very few on Seeking.

[+ DrownedBoy]

7 hours ago, EastCoastBtm said:

fuck me or fuck that

Sounds like a good sig.... 😁

Edited November 5, 2021 by DrownedBoy

[+ Coolwave35]

On 11/4/2021 at 12:24 PM, EastCoastBtm said:

Well... I think I just wasted $250. 

Every guy wants 'mentorship' and then asks for me to pay their bills...... quite frankly... fuck me or fuck that.  Wish I could put something subliminal in either stating something about them being a top.....

I know this isn't rent.men, but I'd like to think it's a dating site where people of unequal financial status can meet.... I feel stupid and naive.  I'd be more open to paying for 'friendship' and spending real life face time with someone if there were more local guys, but Philly area has very few on Seeking.

You don’t get messages like these?  Lol 

[EastCoastBtm]

27 minutes ago, Coolwave35 said:

You don’t get messages like these?  Lol 

Is it ironic that I think that guy messaged me.....

[Prime38]

And who says romance is dead?

[+ Coolwave35]

11 minutes ago, EastCoastBtm said:

Is it ironic that I think that guy messaged me.....

I wouldn’t doubt it! Get him!  

[EastCoastBtm]

14 minutes ago, Coolwave35 said:

I wouldn’t doubt it! Get him!  

Cancelled my membership.... I don't think I have the financial minimum requirements for Seeking.

Edited November 14, 2021 by EastCoastBtm

[+ José Soplanucas]

12 hours ago, EastCoastBtm said:

Cancelled my membership.... I don't think I have the financial minimum requirements for Seeking.

Yep. You need more resources than for regular escorts, especially time to comb away bad matches. I had lots of fun with my explorations, but what I would really like is something like Seeking but international. 

[fedssocr1]

They lured me back in with their black Friday discount.

I thought I might be on the way to a success story. Newbie ad. Texted back and forth with this guy over the last few days. He says he's a straight college guy with a part time job. Since he's straight he would probably not be comfortable with anything physical We talked about setting up a meeting. Sent me a face pic, very handsome guy. Then started the monetary negotiations. I suggested meeting for dinner and see where things go from there. (He had said by now that he wouldn't necessarily rule out anything sexual) He said he'd do a 30 minute coffee date meeting for free, but beyond that he would have other requirements. I asked what he had in mind.

Dinner up to 2 hrs - $300

Sleepover or cuddling/non-intimate contact - $500

Pictures/videos- $50-$100 each

In-person nudity, but no contact - $350

I wished him the best of luck finding what he's looking for. He seems like a nice guy but these numbers are just so out there. I countered with $300 for a meeting with intimate contact. But we were clearly at an impasse.

[Jeffster]

Even in my big A-list muscleboy days where my life revolved around the gym and sex, I always felt that if I accepted anything from anybody, I’d have to put out. I guess I just don’t understand the entitled mentality where somebody can say “pay my bills without me actually doing anything.”

[Lazarus]

2 hours ago, fedssocr1 said:

They lured me back in with their black Friday discount.

I thought I might be on the way to a success story. Newbie ad. Texted back and forth with this guy over the last few days. He says he's a straight college guy with a part time job. Since he's straight he would probably not be comfortable with anything physical We talked about setting up a meeting. Sent me a face pic, very handsome guy. Then started the monetary negotiations. I suggested meeting for dinner and see where things go from there. (He had said by now that he wouldn't necessarily rule out anything sexual) He said he'd do a 30 minute coffee date meeting for free, but beyond that he would have other requirements. I asked what he had in mind.

Dinner up to 2 hrs - $300

Sleepover or cuddling/non-intimate contact - $500

Pictures/videos- $50-$100 each

In-person nudity, but no contact - $350

I wished him the best of luck finding what he's looking for. He seems like a nice guy but these numbers are just so out there. I countered with $300 for a meeting with intimate contact. But we were clearly at an impasse.

Are there really people out there that are that desperate that they would agree to any of these scenarios? 

[+ José Soplanucas]

2 hours ago, Lazarus said:

Are there really people out there that are that desperate that they would agree to any of these scenarios? 

There are all kind of people, sometimes not desperate but just misinformed and/or uneducated on the trade. I am sure someone with disposable income may exist, willing to take this offer. May be one.

Beyond that, these expectations may be easily explained. @fedssocr1mentions that the guy was a newbie. He may be straight or not, he may be honest or not, but if he is really a newbie, he may no know what he is doing and what he has to do to be successful in the trade. If that is the case, perhaps it is a good idea to check him in a few months. When reality strikes him, he may run away or he may adjust and meet reality's demands.

[GTMike]

3 hours ago, Lazarus said:

Are there really people out there that are that desperate that they would agree to any of these scenarios? 

You really do have to be patient and not expect too much, and in my experience be willing to accept that you're taking the good with the bad (regarding even just communication or lack thereof). For the "SD" side the monthly fee does add up so I've dabbled in and out over the past several months and try to establish off site communications and not be dependent on the site.  And wouldn't ya know whenever it's time that I'm gonna let the subscription lapse, there's a sudden uptick in SB's reaching out! Hahaha. (Draw whatever conclusions you like).  

The other thing I've noticed is i swear many of these guys must go to the same "finishing school" or get the same "SB Certificate's Program" that offers 4 or 5 Majors/Concentrations as many of the conversations/approaches/tactics are like cut and paste jobs that it can't all be just big coincidences. Hahaha. 

For what you consider "unrealistic" positions, (know that it can be totally subjective) but when i encounter that,  I always politely explain why that wouldn't be what I'd be looking for but that they very well could find someone whereby it is a good mutual fit. And i encourage them to keep looking. But as one previous member alluded to, market reality strikes and they may or may not then choose to adjust, and you potentially could be hearing from them again.

[fedssocr1]

Yeah, part of it I chalk up to guys not wanting to make any commitments to doing anything before meeting. I've been chatting with a different newbie tonight. I got the "my roommate left me and the rent is due" story. Which may very well be true. He needs $800. He'd like to go on platonic dates for $250 but might be willing to do more intimate things "eventually". Maybe I am too cheap. Or my expectations aren't realistic. But I told him if he's got guys willing to pay that much he should do what's best for him.

When I started with this site a few years ago it was much simpler. All of those closeted frat boys who were just looking to get off for a reasonable amount of money.

[MikeBiDude]

1 minute ago, fedssocr1 said:

Or my expectations aren't realistic. But I told him if he's got guys willing to pay that much he should do what's best for him

My biggest advice on Seeking for both sides of the potential arrangement, is be prepared for wildly varied expectations. Like you @fedssocr1 I simply tell the gentleman that doesn’t meet my expectations to take care, and I’m sure he’ll find a match on Seeking, but it’s not me.

The process takes an immense amount of patience and messaging, it’s not for everyone. That said…I have met some really high quality young men who don’t expect a huge “allowance”. I aim for a hard working student, where what I can share with him makes a difference in his life, sometimes that’s in dollars, sometimes (more rare) that’s just fun experiences. I’m currently seeing two different guys right now, one is a student in the Midwest who has traveled with me a couple times….and wants nothing more than the travel experience…although I Venmo him some cash after each trip.

Another’s a student more local to me who gets a visit allowance very close to what a local RM escort would get…but I get hours of entertainment and fun, not just a one hour appointment.

It’s hit/miss, like I said not for everyone but I’ve been fortunate and enjoy the SA experience.