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Some of the same vowel usage in South Jersey and Philly. I always ask relatives from SE Pennsylvania to pronounce the triad marry, Mary and merry. In General American, they’re all pronounced the same way. In the Philly area, each is pronounced differently. I’m from the Main Line originally and always pronounced them the same way, as does one of my sisters.

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I apologize ahead of time cause im not known to be pc.

 

Jews in nyc that are typically nice jewish bois are not escorts unless they are Jewish by ethnicity only. However out in some of the rougher brooklyn n queens neighborhood i run into hot first gen russians and east eurooeans who are jewish by ethnicity but act like goidfella gambino types. They come from dirt poor families and often need to make ends meet. Dont think they will be wearin kippahs and going to temple tho. U will sooner see them rolling dice in the park past curfew.

 

Would you make that generalization to most Eastern European escorts?

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I always ask relatives from SE Pennsylvania to pronounce the triad marry, Mary and merry. In General American, they’re all pronounced the same way.

The first time I heard about this (not too long ago) I thought it was weird AF, but I guess I'd ignored it because I'd heard each in context rather than one after the other so hadn't realised they were homophones there. In Australian English they are all pronounced differently.

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Some of the same vowel usage in South Jersey and Philly. I always ask relatives from SE Pennsylvania to pronounce the triad marry, Mary and merry. In General American, they’re all pronounced the same way. In the Philly area, each is pronounced differently. I’m from the Main Line originally and always pronounced them the same way, as does one of my sisters.

 

I'm not sure if this is true. I speak fairly standard American English. While I'm from Texas, I've lived in several "midwestern" states for significant periods of time. While some people in those states said they could tell I was from Texas, many others asked me why I didn't have a Texas accent.

 

So for the pronunciation of "marry"-I'd say the standard sound is that of "a" in apple, ie a short "a" sound-what I was taught in elementary school as an "'a' with a u-shaped mark above it." For the words "Mary" and "merry," to me they sound the same. Both have a "short e" sound depicted as an " 'e' with a u-shaped mark above it."

 

I can exaggeratedly pronounce "Mary" to sound the same as "marry," but it comes out very nasal.

 

Gman

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I'm not sure if this is true. I speak fairly standard American English. While I'm from Texas, I've lived in several "midwestern" states for significant periods of time. While some people in those states said they could tell I was from Texas, many others asked me why I didn't have a Texas accent.

 

So for the pronunciation of "marry"-I'd say the standard sound is that of "a" in apple, ie a short "a" sound-what I was taught in elementary school as an "'a' with a u-shaped mark above it." For the words "Mary" and "merry," to me they sound the same. Both have a "short e" sound depicted as an " 'e' with a u-shaped mark above it."

 

I can exaggeratedly pronounce "Mary" to sound the same as "marry," but it comes out very nasal.

 

Gman

I’ve always pronounced them the same way, as do most of the people in the West.

 

Philadelphians also pronounce horrible as “harrible” and forest as “farest”.

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I'm not sure if this is true. I speak fairly standard American English. While I'm from Texas, I've lived in several "midwestern" states for significant periods of time. While some people in those states said they could tell I was from Texas, many others asked me why I didn't have a Texas accent.

 

So for the pronunciation of "marry"-I'd say the standard sound is that of "a" in apple, ie a short "a" sound-what I was taught in elementary school as an "'a' with a u-shaped mark above it." For the words "Mary" and "merry," to me they sound the same. Both have a "short e" sound depicted as an " 'e' with a u-shaped mark above it."

 

I can exaggeratedly pronounce "Mary" to sound the same as "marry," but it comes out very nasal.

 

Gman

Being a New Yorker, they are all pronounced differently. Marry and merry are pronounced as you would with short vowels but Mary is pronounced as mare with a long e (ē) at the end.

 

I also don't really have an accent except for certain words like coffee, talk and daughter and, apparently, beautiful. When I was in London, everyone said I had a New York accent, but I think they were either just saying yes or equating a NY and an American accent.

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