Would like feedback on disappointing experience ...

[Mark_fl]

2 minutes ago, Peter Eater said:

Aren’t ready? Or aren’t able to, given our (not their) creation of really big economic hurdles - way bigger than I had to navigate when I was young. My first LA apartment rent, adjusted for inflation, was $1,900 in WeHo. Today’s average WeHo rent is $2,500. That’s a very big difference - groceries for a month or two!

Sure, but you have to start with a full time job and maybe a roommate. I've seen video after video of 20 somethings whining about how horrible it is to be expected to work 40 hours a week and how it kills their free time.  And that is what you think is ready for life?

[Peter Eater]

Just now, Mark_fl said:

Sure, but you have to start with a full time job and maybe a roommate. I've seen video after video of 20 somethings whining about how horrible it is to be expected to work 40 hours a week and how it kills their free time.  And that is what you think is ready for life?

Huh? I had a full time job and no roommate. 

And pardon my skepticism about all those whiny videos. The kids are all right.

[Mark_fl]

17 minutes ago, Peter Eater said:

Huh? I had a full time job and no roommate. 

And pardon my skepticism about all those whiny videos. The kids are all right.

If these kids are all right, we're all in big trouble. 

[TJMS]

My daughter heads recruiting for an international securities firm. She sees a HUGE difference in the 20 somethings today compared to even 10 years ago. With few exceptions, they are whiney, entitled and lazy and those are the good ones! One even brought their mother with them for an interview, no joke! 

[ajvanguard]

Absolutely my experience 

[ShortCutie7]

15 hours ago, TJMS said:

My daughter heads recruiting for an international securities firm. She sees a HUGE difference in the 20 somethings today compared to even 10 years ago. With few exceptions, they are whiney, entitled and lazy and those are the good ones! One even brought their mother with them for an interview, no joke! 

This 100%. There’s a big difference between Gen Z and millennials, but we have to have empathy and understand that this difference is largely due to the environment they grew up in.  If this very hot but young provider seems immature, it’s because he didn’t get the socialization that those 10 years his senior did.

[Peter Eater]

Kids have always been a mess. Always. The point is that today’s mess was created by us, not them, and dumping on them for it is the usual abdication of responsibility for our own actions. That’s what “ the kids are all right” means! (A lot of comments here are all about blaming kids for not avoiding the epic failures of adults.) And it will continue to degenerate as the youthful generation of the pandemic  - a disaster that we, not they, engineered - continues to age. 

[Mark_fl]

20 minutes ago, Peter Eater said:

Kids have always been a mess. Always. The point is that today’s mess was created by us, not them, and dumping on them for it is the usual abdication of responsibility for our own actions. That’s what “ the kids are all right” means! (A lot of comments here are all about blaming kids for not avoiding the epic failures of adults.) And it will continue to degenerate as the youthful generation of the pandemic  - a disaster that we, not they, engineered - continues to age. 

A lot has to do with the elimination of shame in society. With the acceptance of single parenting as a choice,  we have a second generation of kids whose parent(s) didn't have a parent at home because they had to work, and often had no father figure to speak of.

Combine that with schools that can't discipline kids and get rewarded for graduating kids who can't even read, and it's no mystery why this generation is largely not capable of being functional adults. Its by no means just their fault, but it doesn't change the fact that some day they will have to face a reality check.

[TJMS]

I grew up at a time when most moms stayed at home with their children. It was also a time when I had two sets of slacks and shirts to go to school. That was the tradeoff for having mom at home, we accepted fewer material comforts. I actually feel sorry for these young folks growing up today, they may have creature comforts in abundance but not what they really need two devoted, nurturing parents.

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

There's another thread where we can share the disappointments with Generation Z:

 

I think a lot of this particular situation can be summarized with "Don't send deposits".  I believe escorts asking for deposits may have been discussed once before on Company of Men ...maybe even twice.

[Peter Eater]

12 hours ago, TJMS said:

I grew up at a time when most moms stayed at home with their children. It was also a time when I had two sets of slacks and shirts to go to school. That was the tradeoff for having mom at home, we accepted fewer material comforts. I actually feel sorry for these young folks growing up today, they may have creature comforts in abundance but not what they really need two devoted, nurturing parents.

Bunk. The overwhelming majority of women around the world aren’t staying at home with the kids, and they never have been. Just because your mom did - and bully for her - doesn’t mean young folks today aren’t being nurtured by devoted parents. 

[Peter Eater]

13 hours ago, Mark_fl said:

With the acceptance of single parenting as a choice,  we have a second generation of kids whose parent(s) didn't have a parent at home because they had to work, and often had no father figure to speak of.

Yeah, it’s the fault of all them horny ladies who got knocked up. 🤭😂

[TJMS]

Peter Eater,

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

9 hours ago, Peter Eater said:

The overwhelming majority of women around the world aren’t staying at home with the kids, and they never have been

Prior to 1970, over 50% of families with children had at least one parent at home, not working for pay.

The rate of families with a stay at home parent has remained stable for the last quarter century, with almost 1 in 5 stay at home parents now fathers.

[Peter Eater]

51 minutes ago, TJMS said:

Peter Eater,

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar

Maybe, but I’m not interested in flies. 

[TJMS]

No, just posting snarky messages