From Therapeutic to Fleshjack: Longtime Masseur Surprises Me

[+ 7829V]

I’ve been seeing this masseur for several years. He never advertised on the usual sites, and our sessions were always purely therapeutic. He always had girlfriends, kept me draped, and never gave any sign of going down the sensual route. I kept him in my rotation because I liked his massage style. It was always a proper full-body massage, including sensitive areas like abductors and glutes. He would uncover the area he was working on and cover it again afterwards.

It was obvious at times that I was hard and even leaking a bit. Once I came close to ejaculating, but when by accident my erection slipped out, he just covered me back up and continued.

We lost touch for a couple of years, he moved and traveled, and I didn’t hire him again until earlier this year. He reached out to say he was back in town and asked if I wanted to book a session. I did, and this time things were a little different.

He was more casual with the draping, spent more time on my ass, and even brushed my anus with his hand. At one point, when I flipped over, he left me fully exposed and asked, “Would you like to try a sex toy?” I was stunned. I asked what he meant, and he said, “A Fleshjack.” I agreed, and he proceeded to give me a hand-assisted release with it. I was very surprised by this change, but I enjoyed it.

In later sessions, he continued using the Fleshjack, and his touches became more suggestive, brushing against my erection with his arms and hands while massaging nearby, but so far he hasn’t given me a release with his bare hands. He never gets nude or shirtless, and he’s never placed his dick in a position where it brushed against my arms or hands while massaging me.

He’s an all-American guy: muscular, professional, and very likeable. There’s been no upsell, no pressure, just a different dynamic.

So I wonder, why the change? To make me more happy as a client? What would be a good following step without being too forward or obvious? I was thinking maybe ask him to try other sex toys, buying some and seeing if he wanted to incorporate those? I’m happy with how things are turning. If you have any advice, please let me know. 

One quick note, out of respect, I’m not comfortable revealing the identity of this masseur, so please don’t ask. Thanks for understanding!

[+ JamesB]

It’s tough to give advice without knowing more about the dynamic between you two, but initially I’d suggest starting by increasing your usual tip to show appreciation for the new extras, and then letting him take the lead on how any additions to the session unfold.

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

1 hour ago, 7829V said:

So I wonder, why the change?

Yours is a very typical experience for me.  I've had a dozen masseurs over the years who started with therapeutic massages with full draping and nothing sexual.  We talk about their wife and kids, etc.  Then, after a few years and dozens of massages, they forgo the draping and start being more sensual.

People change.  The only thing constant in life is change.

[+ 7829V]

1 minute ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

Yours is a very typical experience for me.  I've had a dozen masseurs over the years who started with therapeutic massages with full draping and nothing sexual.  We talk about their wife and kids, etc.  Then, after a few years and dozens of massages, they forgo the draping and start being more sensual.

People change.  The only thing constant in life is change.

Do you usually just let a masseur move forward at their own pace, or do you do things that encourage the session to become more sensual? What is your style and what have you done in the past? 

[DMonDude]

Kinda just sounds like the kinda thing where during the time you were out of contact with him maybe he just picked up new "skills"/routine/methods for doing this to remain competitive, and now it's just part of the normal experience he offers. I think if you want to add new stuff/try new things, you probably should be able to just ask and he'll either say "totally yeah" or "oh that's not something i'm comfortable with" and it'll be all good.

[+ 7829V]

2 hours ago, JamesB said:

It’s tough to give advice without knowing more about the dynamic between you two, but initially I’d suggest starting by increasing your usual tip to show appreciation for the new extras, and then letting him take the lead on how any additions to the session unfold.

We’re on friendly terms. He shares a lot about his personal life, and I feel he’s genuinely happy to see me. He’s very effusive in showing it, always greeting me with a hug and sending me off with one too. He’s also curious about my life, but I notice he opens up more about his than I do about mine. We also exchange random texts throughout the week.

[+ 7829V]

1 hour ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

I let the masseur move forward at his own pace.  To encourage him, I tell  him when it feels good.

That’s cool. Have any of you ever had a masseur you thought was straight or 100% therapeutic… and then with time, turned into full service?

[+ 7829V]

1 hour ago, DMonDude said:

Kinda just sounds like the kinda thing where during the time you were out of contact with him maybe he just picked up new "skills"/routine/methods for doing this to remain competitive, and now it's just part of the normal experience he offers. I think if you want to add new stuff/try new things, you probably should be able to just ask and he'll either say "totally yeah" or "oh that's not something i'm comfortable with" and it'll be all good.

Yeah, that could be. I just wonder if he’s like that with all his clients, or only with the ones who get “very happy” during the massage. I also wonder how far he goes with women. One thing he has done from the very beginning with me is that jumps onto the bed to massage my back. When I’m face down, he opens my legs to make room for himself to kneel on the bed while working on me. I find that very unusual, especially for a supposedly 100% therapeutic masseur. Not that I’m complaining. 

[+ JamesB]

33 minutes ago, 7829V said:

We’re on friendly terms. He shares a lot about his personal life, and I feel he’s genuinely happy to see me. He’s very effusive in showing it, always greeting me with a hug and sending me off with one too. He’s also curious about my life, but I notice he opens up more about his than I do about mine. We also exchange random texts throughout the week.

 

It sounds like you’ve got a really good thing going, you enjoy his therapeutic style and there’s already some level of friendship there. I stick with my earlier advice: show appreciation for the new extras and let him take the lead. No need to risk what you have by pushing his boundaries, just be patient and let things develop naturally.

[HMLondon]

He sounds great and I would respect his boundaries, but explore them. You could say that you would prefer to use your own fleshjack (I don’t think I would want to use one that’s used in a professional setting ), and bring your own plus an alternative or two.  I just googled for you, and they have silicone sleeves (like the Tenga Egg), that are more “hands on.”  Give him the choice and see if he pushes his own boundaries.  I would say: “I wanted to bring it as it just sounds nicer to use my own and I can then wash it, if you don’t mind. And I brought some alternatives, which may be fun, but only if you’re comfortable to explore them together.”  The last sentence lets him know you’re interested, lets him know you want him to be comfortable and lets him decide. Then tip accordingly. 
 

(Does he wash the flashback after he uses it on you?  That’s a saint of a man. If I was straight-ish, I would prefer to touch a bare penis than wash a fleshjack.)

[soloyo215]

14 hours ago, 7829V said:

So I wonder, why the change? To make me more happy as a client? What would be a good following step without being too forward or obvious? I was thinking maybe ask him to try other sex toys, buying some and seeing if he wanted to incorporate those? I’m happy with how things are turning. If you have any advice, please let me know. 

One quick note, out of respect, I’m not comfortable revealing the identity of this masseur, so please don’t ask. Thanks for understanding!

I'd be very curious myself if I was in that situation. Sounds interesting. I think the reason(s) for the change can only be given by him. Without much knowledge about him it's difficult to establish or even guess a reason.

A good following step [in terms of actions] is to just let him be in control of the situation as it seems he has been. As a masseur, there are no rules regarding what else can happen. He calls the shots. In terms of communication, I wonder how comfortable are you with simply asking. I think it's a fair question to ask, after years of sessions suddenly there's a change. Asking the right way and the right time, not coming across as greedy or creepy, can give you a clear idea of what's in his mind(set).

[Nightowl]

34 minutes ago, soloyo215 said:

In terms of communication, I wonder how comfortable are you with simply asking. I think it's a fair question to ask, after years of sessions suddenly there's a change. Asking the right way and the right time, not coming across as greedy or creepy, can give you a clear idea of what's in his mind(set).

I was thinking the same thing.  If you already have a good rapport and openly talk about your lives, you could just tactfully ask him:  “When I first started seeing you, your massages were strictly therapeutic but now they’ve become more sensual.  Can you share with me what changed?” He could be like a lot of us, myself included, who have wives or girlfriends but realize after a number of years/decades that being with a man is also something they want to explore.  

[+ Pensant]

When I get a deep tissue massage, I’m not interested in anything sexual. I wear a Pump jockstrap and don’t become aroused since my masseur, married and self-identified as a Christian, doesn’t attract me sexually. He comes over to keep me tuned up muscle-wise so that I can continue my very active physical lifestyle. I’m very much an outlier on this board with respect to masseurs. When I want action, I hire an escort.

[Whoisyourdaddy]

Very sexy story, 7829V. 

I love occasionally giving providers massages. 

I wanted to give massages when I was younger, but I was too scrawny.