*Snoop Dogg makes anti LGBTQ comments

[pubic_assistance]

1 minute ago, caramelsub said:

Snoop’s representative, says he never apologized for making the anti-lgbt comments.

Well...if he doesnt view his comment as "anti-LGBT" then there's nothing to apologize for. 

If I were Snoop, THAT is the position I would take in this over-blown gay panic narrative. 

[caliguy]

2 hours ago, caramelsub said:

So another twist to this ongoing story. Apparently Snoop’s representative, says he never apologized for making the anti-lgbt comments. He says the apology was fake and done by someone else. I don’t know what to believe at this point! 😮 

Snoop Dogg homophobic comments apology is fake - reps confirm

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The rapper actually hasn't said sorry, his reps have confirmed

 

He sounds more like a politician now. 

[pubic_assistance]

1 hour ago, caliguy said:

He sounds more like a politician now. 

He sounds like a celebrity who protects his brand on his terms. 

He did nothing wrong. so WHY would he "apologize" ? 

[+ José Soplanucas]

29 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

He sounds like a celebrity who protects his brand on his terms. 

He did nothing wrong. so WHY would he "apologize" ? 

I kind of agree. He does not need to apologize, he needs to educate himself. It is quite easy to explain how a child has two parents of the same gender, at least you are troglodyte. 

[josh282282]

On 8/26/2025 at 10:02 AM, pubic_assistance said:

NEITHER of us introduced the concept of same-sex relations to our children until they were about 10.

 

On 8/26/2025 at 10:02 AM, pubic_assistance said:

to...but it could be more of an age appropriate issue

Hi

I wonder if you could elaborate? I'm interested in understanding your opinion better.

What do you mean regarding age-appropriateness in tv, cartoons,  chidrens movies etc with opposite sex couples?

I distinctly recall seeing as a very small child (before even 5 yrs old) on children's cartoons, movies, tv etc  opposite sex married couples being portrayed. I don't mean seeing couples actually having sex, kissing, or anything like that. I just recall seeing opposite sex couples in media, the school reading books, media etc doing basic things family activities.  For example,  Sesame Street had multiple opposite couples: Gordan & Susan Robinson & Luis & Maria for starters.

Was that age-appropriate or inappropriate display of human sexuality in your opinion?

Thank you in advance for your thoughtful reply.

Josh

 

[josh282282]

On 8/26/2025 at 8:05 PM, Vulgarii said:

. I do not support lgbt characters and themes in children's entertainment. 

Hey there.

Could you explain a bit further? What specifically you mean by "LGBT characters"? 

Also, specifically what "themes" do you not support? It such a broad topic that it's almost impossible for the reader to understand what you meant.

Could you supply some examples? I'm just confused and would enjoy exploring your views more.

Josh

[maninsoma]

I'll take him at his word that he isn't anti-gay but merely didn't know how to respond to the question.  I had no difficulty responding to a similar but more personal question from the nephew of my then boyfriend nearly 40 years ago.  His extended family was out for a walk and his 6 year old nephew got paired up with me to be safe while crossing intersections.  He asked me out of the blue how I could be with his uncle since we were two males and couples were supposed to be male and female together.  I simply said sometimes two men love each other just like a man and a woman love each other.  He accepted the answer and didn't ask any follow up questions.  He definitely accepted me as if I were his uncle as well.  His mom overheard our conversation and praised me for my answer later.  It's easy to answer a question like this in an age appropriate manner unless you get hung up on thinking that anything that isn't hetero normative means you have to think about/talk about people's actual sex lives.  That isn't what a kid is asking about.

I know Snoop's situation involved the characters having a baby, so there's the question of "how do two women make a baby together" that wasn't present in my situation but if Snoop had just thought about it he'd realize the kid wasn't really looking for a lesson in biology.  He could have simply said something like, "I don't know how they had the baby, but they love each other and baby, just like your mom and dad" or something along those lines.

[+ SirBillybob]

Poor Calvin … fo’ shizzle shoulda chosen this film …

Edited September 2 by SirBillybob

[+ MikeThomas]

Snoop is lucky he doesn't live in the UK.  If he did, there is a very high probability he would have been arrested for his tweets.

[+ Act25]

My son's best friend in elementary school had two moms and it was all perfectly normal. Not common, but normal. 

Kids should be told that families come in all flavors: one mom, one dad, two moms, two dads, one mom, one dad, etc.  We've equated it to what goes on in the bedroom and kids don't care or think about that. 

Kids need to be raised with love; the gender and quantity of their parents is irrelevant. 

[+ José Soplanucas]

13 hours ago, josh282282 said:

Hi

I wonder if you could elaborate? I'm interested in understanding your opinion better.

What do you mean regarding age-appropriateness in tv, cartoons,  chidrens movies etc with opposite sex couples?

I distinctly recall seeing as a very small child (before even 5 yrs old) on children's cartoons, movies, tv etc  opposite sex married couples being portrayed. I don't mean seeing couples actually having sex, kissing, or anything like that. I just recall seeing opposite sex couples in media, the school reading books, media etc doing basic things family activities.  For example,  Sesame Street had multiple opposite couples: Gordan & Susan Robinson & Luis & Maria for starters.

Was that age-appropriate or inappropriate display of human sexuality in your opinion?

Thank you in advance for your thoughtful reply.

Josh

 

13 hours ago, josh282282 said:

Hey there.

Could you explain a bit further? What specifically you mean by "LGBT characters"? 

Also, specifically what "themes" do you not support? It such a broad topic that it's almost impossible for the reader to understand what you meant.

Could you supply some examples? I'm just confused and would enjoy exploring your views more.

Josh

[BSR]

2 hours ago, Act25 said:

Kids need to be raised with love; the gender and quantity of their parents is irrelevant. 

Of course kids need to be raised with love, but statistics prove that the quantity of parents very much matters.  Children raised by single mothers are “five times more likely to commit suicide, nine times more likely to drop out of high school, 10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances, 14 times more likely to commit rape (for the boys), 20 times more likely to end up in prison, and 32 times more likely to run away from home.”

[+ José Soplanucas]

21 minutes ago, BSR said:

Of course kids need to be raised with love, but statistics prove that the quantity of parents very much matters.  Children raised by single mothers are “five times more likely to commit suicide, nine times more likely to drop out of high school, 10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances, 14 times more likely to commit rape (for the boys), 20 times more likely to end up in prison, and 32 times more likely to run away from home.”

If people like you stopped using stats and other devices to stigmatizing single parent families, I bet you those numbers would look better.

[caramelsub]

16 minutes ago, BSR said:

Of course kids need to be raised with love, but statistics prove that the quantity of parents very much matters.  Children raised by single mothers are “five times more likely to commit suicide, nine times more likely to drop out of high school, 10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances, 14 times more likely to commit rape (for the boys), 20 times more likely to end up in prison, and 32 times more likely to run away from home.”

Those statistics might be true for straight women, whose baby daddies left the household. What about single fathers? Any statistics on that? Gay or straight. There are so many other factors that determine how a child will grow up and survive in this world. Unfortunately, race and ethnicity are factors as well. I know there is a narrative particularly in Black American culture, to have a “nuclear family” with a mom and a dad, and that single moms can’t raise boys. I’m not a parent, so I can’t comment on that. Plus, many gay couples and individuals choose to adopt, so that is already giving a child a second chance at life, versus having a life in foster care.

[BSR]

4 hours ago, José Soplanucas said:

If people like you stopped using stats and other devices to stigmatizing single parent families, I bet you those numbers would look better.

You have it bass ackward.  First the children of single mothers (and absent fathers) drop out of school, become substance abusers, commit crime, end up in jail, and/or commit suicide, then they collect statistics on the damage that single motherhood inflicts on their children and on society as a whole.

[Lotus-eater]

6 hours ago, José Soplanucas said:

If people like you stopped using stats and other devices to stigmatizing single parent families, I bet you those numbers would look better.

The statistics reveal biological and social reality (e.g., The Two Parent Privilege). Normalizing single parenthood (overwhelmingly female) will not magically eliminate its large negative effects on children, particularly those who are least advantaged, because those negative effects are not caused by being stigmatized.

 

Edited September 3 by Lotus-eater

[+ José Soplanucas]

7 minutes ago, Lotus-eater said:

The statistics reveal biological and social reality (e.g., The Two Parent Privilege). Normalizing single parenthood (overwhelmingly female) will not magically eliminate its large negative effects on children, particularly those who are least advantaged.

 

Of course I am not saying that normalizing single parents would solve all the challenges. That would be as reductionist and stupid as the reading of the stats that you are advocating for.

[+ José Soplanucas]

2 hours ago, BSR said:

You have it bass ackward.  First the children of single mothers (and absent fathers) drop out of school, become substance abusers, commit crime, end up in jail, and/or commit suicide, then they collect statistics on the damage that single motherhood inflicts on their children and on society as a whole.

You know (I guess)  that there are solid statistics showing that homosexuals, bisexuals, and other members of the LGBTQ+ spectrum present higher incidence of depression, substance abuse, and suicide compare to the heterosexual population. Following your logic, we should eradicate all non conforming sexualities to avoid the damage.

[Lotus-eater]

5 minutes ago, José Soplanucas said:

Of course I am not saying that normalizing single parents would solve all the challenges. That would be as reductionist and stupid as the reading of the stats that you are advocating for.

Whatever weak stigma against single parenthood remains is not a main driver of the negative effects, so normalizing it even more won't help in that regard. And reducing the remaining stigma will make it more common and thus exacerbate its negative effects. Focusing on it is a just cheap distraction.

[mike carey]

I was writing something challenging the prevailing narrative about the causes and effects of single parenting (my parents divorced when I was eight) but as I did so, I remembered that this thread is about Snoop Dog's remarks and related issues about how to portray gender roles in age-appropriate ways, not on parenting in general or other specific parenting issues. I don't want to start such a conversation, although other may wish to do so elsewhere.

[BSR]

9 hours ago, José Soplanucas said:

You know (I guess)  that there are solid statistics showing that homosexuals, bisexuals, and other members of the LGBTQ+ spectrum present higher incidence of depression, substance abuse, and suicide compare to the heterosexual population. Following your logic, we should eradicate all non conforming sexualities to avoid the damage.

You know (I guess) that it is impossible to eradicate homosexuality and bisexuality.  Do LGB people suffer from a higher incidence of depression, substance abuse, suicide?  That might have been true in the past, not so sure about now.  I need to see current statistics.  Trans is a very different issue, because their suicide rates are sky-high.

In any case, nonconforming sexualities are an immutable trait.  The solution is to help people of nonconforming sexualities cope with their mental health issues.  In stark contrast, single motherhood and absent fatherhood are the consequences of bad life choices and irresponsibility, elective human behaviors that 1) can very much be changed, and 2) whose pernicious consequences on both children and society as a whole need to be more widely made known.  

[+ ApexNomad]

14 hours ago, mike carey said:

I was writing something challenging the prevailing narrative about the causes and effects of single parenting (my parents divorced when I was eight) but as I did so, I remembered that this thread is about Snoop Dog's remarks and related issues about how to portray gender roles in age-appropriate ways, not on parenting in general or other specific parenting issues. I don't want to start such a conversation, although other may wish to do so elsewhere.

You should reconsider starting a new topic and sharing your thoughts.