+ KensingtonHomo Posted Monday at 01:56 PM Posted Monday at 01:56 PM 1 hour ago, d.anders said: There are plenty of men, good-looking and not, who would be thrilled to suck a younger man's cock, and not expect reciprocation. And pay top dollar, depending on how pretty everything is. I cannot imagine paying someone to suck their dick without reciprocation. pubic_assistance 1
pubic_assistance Posted Monday at 02:12 PM Posted Monday at 02:12 PM 13 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said: I cannot imagine paying someone to suck their dick without reciprocation. Different strokes for different folks. Objectification - such as cock worship is a very common theme in sexuality, particularly with gay men. Have you never heard of a glory hole ? + Vegas_Millennial, + Pensant and + BOZO T CLOWN 2 1
+ KensingtonHomo Posted Monday at 02:24 PM Posted Monday at 02:24 PM 5 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: Different strokes for different folks. Objectification - such as cock worship is a very common theme in sexuality, particularly with gay men. Have you never heard of a glory hole ? How many dicks have you paid to suck? Of course, I've heard of glory holes and they are not remotely interesting to me. You seem to need to objectify someone to get off. Again, I recommend therapy because that's not "natural," it's the result of religious intolerance, patriarchy, overconsumption of porn, and marketing and advertising. I don't even like dick pics. A dick detached from a human being is not hot to me. + Pensant, + BOZO T CLOWN, pubic_assistance and 2 others 4 1
pubic_assistance Posted Monday at 02:41 PM Posted Monday at 02:41 PM 14 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said: You seem to need to objectify someone to get off. Well..."need" ? 🤔 No. I am just sexually diverse in my tastes. I may be somewhat specific about what a male sex partner looks like (young/fit/masculine) but I have a wide range of sexual interests. Objectification kink can be VERY hot. NipLuvr212, + Vegas_Millennial and + BOZO T CLOWN 1 1 1
+ KensingtonHomo Posted Monday at 03:48 PM Posted Monday at 03:48 PM 1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said: Well..."need" ? 🤔 No. I am just sexually diverse in my tastes. I may be somewhat specific about what a male sex partner looks like (young/fit/masculine) but I have a wide range of sexual interests. Objectification kink can be VERY hot. You were not discussing a kink. You were claiming that it was required and natural and now you’re moving the goal post. pubic_assistance and NipLuvr212 1 1
pubic_assistance Posted Monday at 06:24 PM Posted Monday at 06:24 PM (edited) 5 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said: You were not discussing a kink. You were claiming that it was required and natural and now you’re moving the goal post. Your reading comprehension is abysmal. I never made any such statement. I said objectification in sexuality is perfectly common especially with men. I never said anything about it being "required". I DO find it to be perfectly natural. To head YOU off at the pass...NO ONE is saying that YOU NEED TO LIKE IT. So you can untangle your panties. No one is telling you that you must have have oral sex with an Asian dominant, and enjoy it. Edited Monday at 08:56 PM by pubic_assistance spelling
d.anders Posted Monday at 06:42 PM Posted Monday at 06:42 PM 4 hours ago, Jamie21 said: I think that’s a common view of those who might not have done it. I've spent my whole life "selling." Sex is just one particular commodity. 4 hours ago, Jamie21 said: you also need to deal with the opinion of society about what you do Lots of escorts keep their work private. It's not impossible. My corporate co-workers did not know I was gay. Society's opinion of sex work is evolving. There are many entrepreneurs out there who don't give a flying fuck about what other people think. Look at the money young women are making on OnlyFans, and many of them are not even stripping. They are raking in millions simply by being good at teasing. 4 hours ago, Jamie21 said: the attitude of some clients towards you In any service business, you have to learn how to deal with asshole customers. I have far more pity for waiters than I do escorts. Customers tend to be more vulnerable when they are naked. 4 hours ago, Jamie21 said: how it affects your own sex life If you're looking for white-picket-fence love, then yes, escorting can get in the way. When I was in my 20's, I was not interested in serious, romantic relationships. I wanted to experience fun sex, as much as I could. I'm sure I'm not the only gay man who loved his independence. pubic_assistance 1
d.anders Posted Monday at 06:44 PM Posted Monday at 06:44 PM 4 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said: I cannot imagine paying someone to suck their dick without reciprocation. As someone who loves 69, I hear what you are saying. I've had my share of friends who love sucking cock, and they did not give a damn about reciprocation. pubic_assistance and + KensingtonHomo 1 1
Nightowl Posted Monday at 06:51 PM Posted Monday at 06:51 PM 5 hours ago, Jamie21 said: I think that’s a common view of those who might not have done it. But as well as laying back and letting some guy suck you off (easy) you also need to deal with the opinion of society about what you do, the attitude of some clients towards you, and things like how it affects your own sex life. Factor those in and you might reconsider that ‘selling sex can be one of the easiest’… One need only read some of the comments on CoM to get a taste of the negative attitude of some clients toward providers. pubic_assistance, + KensingtonHomo and + Jamie21 1 2
+ KensingtonHomo Posted Monday at 07:30 PM Posted Monday at 07:30 PM 50 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: Your reading comprehension is abysmal. I never made any such statement. I said objectification in sexuality is perfectly common especially with men. I never said anything about it being "required". I DO find it to be perfectly natural. To head YOU off at the pass...NO ONE is saying that YOU NEED TO LIKE IT. So you can untangle your panties. No one is tell you that you must have have oral sex with an Asian dominant, and enjoy it. For someone who spends 80 percent of their time on here railing against all the things they dislike and people they find unattractive, you certainly do not like it when your own "failures" are pointed out. No one is telling you to have sex with any of the providers or members that you endlessly criticize, demean, and dehumanize. Yet, you act as if you're besieged by a phalanx of 65-year-old morbidly obese men you MUST have sex with. You're very sensitive for someone with so much heat for other people. JTtorretto and pubic_assistance 1 1
+ Jamie21 Posted Monday at 07:31 PM Posted Monday at 07:31 PM 38 minutes ago, d.anders said: I've spent my whole life "selling." Sex is just one particular commodity. Lots of escorts keep their work private. It's not impossible. My corporate co-workers did not know I was gay. Society's opinion of sex work is evolving. There are many entrepreneurs out there who don't give a flying fuck about what other people think. Look at the money young women are making on OnlyFans, and many of them are not even stripping. They are raking in millions simply by being good at teasing. In any service business, you have to learn how to deal with asshole customers. I have far more pity for waiters than I do escorts. Customers tend to be more vulnerable when they are naked. If you're looking for white-picket-fence love, then yes, escorting can get in the way. When I was in my 20's, I was not interested in serious, romantic relationships. I wanted to experience fun sex, as much as I could. I'm sure I'm not the only gay man who loved his independence. Ah ok, you must be right. Are you on twitter by any chance? mike carey, pubic_assistance, Simon Suraci and 3 others 1 5
mike carey Posted Monday at 07:33 PM Posted Monday at 07:33 PM Brutal, Jamie! Simon Suraci, + claym and pubic_assistance 1 2
BoyGeorgeandMarilyn Posted Monday at 08:23 PM Posted Monday at 08:23 PM 6 hours ago, Jamie21 said: I think that’s a common view of those who might not have done it. But as well as laying back and letting some guy suck you off (easy) you also need to deal with the opinion of society about what you do, the attitude of some clients towards you, and things like how it affects your own sex life. Factor those in and you might reconsider that ‘selling sex can be one of the easiest’… Sorry for being direct! But escorting is a choice! The choice of earning easy cash quickly! There are other options to make a living : Waiter in a restaurant, Sales Assistant in a ZARA store! Will the income be the same? I hugely doubt about it! So you have to accept the eventual negative consequences of the job..... + DrownedBoy and pubic_assistance 1 1
+ Jamie21 Posted Monday at 08:33 PM Posted Monday at 08:33 PM Just now, BoyGeorgeandMarilyn said: Sorry for being direct! But escorting is a choice! The choice of earning easy cash quickly! There are other options to make a living : Waiter in a restaurant, Sales Assistant in a ZARA store! Will the income be the same? I hugely doubt about it! So you have to accept the eventual negative consequences of the job..... Absolutely it’s a choice! Not necessarily easy cash though. Everyone thinks ‘great! $200 an hour…or even more!’. What they don’t see is the days you get no clients….the hours you spend dealing with flakes, the time spent trying to keep fit, the risk of catching something, the time you can’t work because of being unwell (no sick pay), the being available almost 24/7 often with a couple of hours notice. Yeah, easy cash. I’m not complaining though, it suits my temperament and lifestyle but it’s not easy money. Honestly I earned more and it was easier when I had a full time corporate job. But that was utterly soul destroying …so I swapped metaphorical ass licking for literal ass licking. + KensingtonHomo, pubic_assistance, NJF and 6 others 2 1 2 4
d.anders Posted Monday at 08:34 PM Posted Monday at 08:34 PM 59 minutes ago, Jamie21 said: Ah ok, you must be right. Not sure what you meant by this, but it sounds rude. It's not about being right, it's about perspective. I've been selling sex all of my adult life, I just did it differently than you. pubic_assistance 1
DMonDude Posted Monday at 08:35 PM Posted Monday at 08:35 PM 6 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said: How many dicks have you paid to suck? Of course, I've heard of glory holes and they are not remotely interesting to me. You seem to need to objectify someone to get off. Again, I recommend therapy because that's not "natural," it's the result of religious intolerance, patriarchy, overconsumption of porn, and marketing and advertising. I don't even like dick pics. A dick detached from a human being is not hot to me. I think both of you have different definitions of what Objectify means. You're giving it a ton more weight and negativity than they mean it with, and they mean it in a much more easy going way than you do. I think that's the disconnect here. Objectification to some just means there isn't an emotional/romantic connection, which is what is at play when clients work with providers. We go to them for a physical experience and then we both go about our lives after. We pay, they provide a service/specific experience and that's all it is and that's ok. This is not the scenario of victimization or treating them like they are less than a person. And objectifying or interacting with someone purely for their aesthetic or physical ability is not inherently that, especially not when they are consenting to the interaction. And it seems like the notion that it is, is the side of this you're coming from and that's why you and the other person are clashing over this. pubic_assistance and spidir 1 1
d.anders Posted Monday at 08:37 PM Posted Monday at 08:37 PM 2 minutes ago, Jamie21 said: What they don’t see is the days you get no clients….the hours you spend dealing with flakes, the time spent trying to keep fit, the risk of catching something, the time you can’t work because of being unwell (no sick pay), the being available almost 24/7 often with a couple of hours notice. Yeah, easy cash. Sounds like my former, famous husband, the self-employed hairdresser.
BoyGeorgeandMarilyn Posted Monday at 08:55 PM Posted Monday at 08:55 PM 19 minutes ago, Jamie21 said: Absolutely it’s a choice! Not necessarily easy cash though. Everyone thinks ‘great! $200 an hour…or even more!’. What they don’t see is the days you get no clients….the hours you spend dealing with flakes, the time spent trying to keep fit, the risk of catching something, the time you can’t work because of being unwell (no sick pay), the being available almost 24/7 often with a couple of hours notice. Yeah, easy cash. I’m not complaining though, it suits my temperament and lifestyle but it’s not easy money. Honestly I earned more and it was easier when I had a full time corporate job. But that was utterly soul destroying …so I swapped metaphorical ass licking for literal ass licking. I have done part-time escorting in my youth! To be honest, Many clients were more interesting than my dull former boyfriends....But emotionally, It was quite sth! I was just a piece of flesh + Jamie21 1
pubic_assistance Posted Monday at 09:15 PM Posted Monday at 09:15 PM 28 minutes ago, DMonDude said: I think both of you have different definitions of what Objectify means Well...clearly. I have no misconceptions about the subject. Just keep in mind, that @KensingtonHomo never misses an opportunity to find righteous indignation in everything that doesnt suit his elevated view of himself. So the concept of an Asian man allowing himself to be objectified is instantly going to be interpreted as some sort of ABUSE of "White Privilege", so he can call it out and feel good about himself for doing so. Its what he does. Clearly @charmasianman knows what he's doing and simply wants to monetize his Asian-Dominance performance. There is nothing humiliating, or wrong about objectification when the provider is willingly offering . + Vegas_Millennial 1
+ Jamie21 Posted Monday at 09:34 PM Posted Monday at 09:34 PM 10 minutes ago, d.anders said: Not sure what you meant by this, but it sounds rude. It's not about being right, it's about perspective. I've been selling sex all of my adult life, I just did it differently than you. Oh no, I was agreeing with you. Selling sex is the same as selling any product. I’m a washing detergent basically. And Sex worker clients are just like restaurant customers are to waiters (except restaurant customers tip less of course…). Although when I’m in a restaurant I always look my waiter in the eye …unlike my client today who couldn’t look me in the eye. I don’t know why, maybe he was shy? But yes, maybe waiters are due more pity (interesting you say you ‘pity’ such service providers). Their clients aren’t naked. They don’t have the opportunity to take advantage of a vulnerable naked client like sex workers do. And my non work sex life doesn’t really get affected because I’m not looking for white picket fence love, so that’s ok. I thought it might have been affected but because I’m in my 20’s (I thought I was a fair bit older but I’ll take 20’s!) and just looking for as much fun sex as possible. I’m not interested in a relationship. + Vegas_Millennial and + KensingtonHomo 1 1
+ Jamie21 Posted Monday at 10:36 PM Posted Monday at 10:36 PM 1 hour ago, BoyGeorgeandMarilyn said: I have done part-time escorting in my youth! To be honest, Many clients were more interesting than my dull former boyfriends....But emotionally, It was quite sth! I was just a piece of flesh By the way, I’m intrigued by your name. Are you Boy George or Marilyn 🤔….A friend of mine used to be the bf of Marilyn back in the day. Small world.
Spikeguy Posted Monday at 10:39 PM Posted Monday at 10:39 PM 10 hours ago, soloyo215 said: I'm not sure what your point is. We already know the risks, plus, as I stated, risk is always present; it's a matter of our decision to take it and handle it. Plus you haven't mentioned anything that is exclusive to escorting. All those things can happen on your way to a 9-5 job. Boy George did that so it appears to be an attempt at a joke. soloyo215 1
BoyGeorgeandMarilyn Posted Monday at 10:41 PM Posted Monday at 10:41 PM 4 minutes ago, Jamie21 said: By the way, I’m intrigued by your name. Are you Boy George or Marilyn 🤔….A friend of mine used to be the bf of Marilyn back in the day. Small world. Really???? That Marilyn thing is a human detritu these days!
BoyGeorgeandMarilyn Posted Monday at 10:42 PM Posted Monday at 10:42 PM 1 minute ago, Spikeguy said: Boy George did that so it appears to be an attempt at a joke. Boy George did 4 months of prison for chaining a male escort
Spikeguy Posted Monday at 10:50 PM Posted Monday at 10:50 PM 7 minutes ago, BoyGeorgeandMarilyn said: Boy George did 4 months of prison for chaining a male escort Yes that was my point.
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