The entitlement of straight men

[Archangel]

This was a pretty decent discussion about straight men and their entitlement until a particular post tried to make me the problem. I don’t fully understand why anyone in this forum would want to take the part of someone who’s not here instead of someone who is – akin to the “devil’s advocate.”

I know I've had my fair share of confronting people I disagree with, and disagreeing with people is fine, but assigning blame to someone for an observation they have about someone else's flaws is effectively blaming the victim. Why are a bunch of gay and bi men defending straight male privilege? Do we not accept that's a thing? Forget the Boomer part. Even above @ApexNomad put it well.

[Archangel]

…add to my last post (I’d edit it, but @BenjaminNicholasthinks that’s odd)

…”put it well insofar as straight male privilege goes irrespective of age.”

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

1 hour ago, Archangel said:

I don’t understand. Why have an edit function if it’s not okay to use it? I corrected typos and added more to that came to me after I submitted. It’s like you’re looking for a reason to discredit what I have to say.

You don't understand?  Sure...  If you say so.

You didn't edit for form, cadence or awful spelling.  You edited the headline (and more) to remove your original take on playing a race card.

Own it. 

It's clear what you did.  I just find it fascinating when people get a little blowback and then do an about-face.

 

[Lotus-eater]

1 hour ago, Archangel said:

This was a pretty decent discussion about straight men and their entitlement until a particular post tried to make me the problem. I don’t fully understand why anyone in this forum would want to take the part of someone who’s not here instead of someone who is – akin to the “devil’s advocate.”

I know I've had my fair share of confronting people I disagree with, and disagreeing with people is fine, but assigning blame to someone for an observation they have about someone else's flaws is effectively blaming the victim. Why are a bunch of gay and bi men defending straight male privilege? Do we not accept that's a thing? Forget the Boomer part. Even above @ApexNomad put it well.

The crybullying begins. We are supposed to uncritically accept that a guy demanding that you provide your news sources as a way to discredit your claims is an instantiation of supposed straight, white, Gen X, male privilege when it's a common debating tactic. Let's shed a nano-tear for the nano-aggression that you probably did not suffer.  

[Archangel]

Oh. The original title…

I edited that to be shorter. That’s all. I don’t even recall what I had originally put for a title, frankly.

Now I am the one who’s curious. About just one thing, really. What awful spelling? 🤔 

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

5 minutes ago, Archangel said:

Oh. The original title…

I edited that to be shorter. That’s all. I don’t even recall what I had originally put for a title, frankly....

 🤔 

An even better shortened to title would be "the entitlement of some people".

We've removed race (original title was entitlement of straight white men), and this thread clearly demonstrates that some gay men feel entitled also.   Let's also remove men, because there are plenty of entitled women out there. 😊 

Edited to add:  Even better, change "entitlement" to "opinions".  "The opinions of some people".   The word entitlement can evoke negative stereotypes or something that is owed; but, clearly the man cited in the original post has a strong opinion and that's great for him.

Edited February 27 by Vegas_Millennial

[Archangel]

21 minutes ago, Lotus-eater said:

The crybullying begins. We are supposed to uncritically accept that a guy demanding that you provide your news sources as a way to discredit your claims is an instantiation of supposed straight, white, Gen X, male privilege when it's a common debating tactic. Let's shed a nano-tear for the nano-aggression that you probably did not suffer.  

I guess looking for support and affinity here is expecting for too much. I figured our shared interest and – even if minimal – similar experiences as gay men would create more bound than with someone who’s not even a member here.

[Archangel]

In all sincerity, I cannot see where the original title is that I had written. It seems to me it was more complicated than “The entitlement of straight white men” but I truly don’t recall what I had written. Where are you guys seeing this original title? 

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

1 hour ago, Archangel said:

I guess looking for support and affinity here is expecting for too much. I figured our shared interest and – even if minimal – similar experiences as gay men would create more bound than with someone who’s not even a member here.

I'll ask the gay and bisexual members of this forum about who has the girthiest dick or smoothest hole.  But for discussions of life or society or even hiring escorts in general, I find it easier to discuss opinions of life and society with my white straight men friends than with some of the gays on here.  Straight white men just seem more logical and less emotionally driven as a group, based on the few straight white men in my social circle.

Edited February 27 by Vegas_Millennial

[Archangel]

@Vegas_Millennial – But…that’s an anecdotal generalization. You shouldn’t do that!

Nor can I trust what you wrote. I mean, see below. 
 

[Archangel]

In seriousness, I have few gay friends despite being gay. And I’m always careful what I share with them because I know how they talk about other people when they’re not around. My best friends are straight women. 

[+ PhileasFogg]

7 hours ago, Archangel said:

I decided I’m not allowing a bunch of people who choose to grossly mischaracterize me and indirectly malign me keep me silent. So I’ll keep participating after all.

Good, I do think you should stay engaged even if people disagree with you.  Butm if you want universal affirmation, I’m not sure I’d recommend an anonymous forum, but I do respect your contribution here  

As I shared in my response to your PM, I think it’s completely wrong to label an entire demographic as you did.   It reeks of good old southern prejudice where it wasn’t the fiber of their character but the color of their skin - it’s no different. It was wrong then and it’s wrong now.

i know plenty of people like what you described…and they’re not all white, straight, boomers, and vice versa

[Archangel]

3 minutes ago, PhileasFogg said:

Good, I do think you should stay engaged even if people disagree with you.  Butm if you want universal affirmation, I’m not sure I’d recommend an anonymous forum, but I do respect your contribution here  

As I shared in my response to your PM, I think it’s completely wrong to label an entire demographic as you did.   It reeks of good old southern prejudice where it wasn’t the fiber of their character but the color of their skin - it’s no different. It was wrong then and it’s wrong now.

i know plenty of people like what you described…and they’re not all white, straight, boomers, and vice versa

I’m also going to ignore or even block those who aren’t respectful 🤷🏼‍♂️ That’s a function here for a reason.

[+ PhileasFogg]

Just now, Archangel said:

I’m also going to ignore or even block those who aren’t respectful 🤷🏼‍♂️ That’s a function here for a reason.

If you’re referring to me, I’m curious -   Is civil disagreement disrespect?

[Archangel]

Just now, PhileasFogg said:

If you’re referring to me, I’m curious -   Is civil disagreement disrespect?

Not you 😊 

[CuriousByNature]

10 hours ago, Archangel said:

Now I am the one who’s curious. 

No.  You are not.  I am the one who's Curious.