Morbid = Kinky in ads from Spanish speakers

[DFdub]

So, been wondering why so many Spanish speaking providers describe themselves as “morbid” in English. Saw a provider today with text in English and Spanish and solved mystery.

Morboso is the word translated, which can mean morbid/macabre as an option (morbido is the exact word for morbid though).

But - morboso in sexual context means “kinky” or “freaky” 🤦🏻‍♂️ Somebody open a ticket with Google translate please. 🤣

Edited August 29, 2024 by DFdub
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[marylander1940]

44 minutes ago, DFdub said:

So, been wondering why so many Spanish speaking providers describe themselves as “morbid” in English. Saw a provider today with text in English and Spanish and solved mystery.

Morboso is the word translated, which can mean morbid/macabre as an option (morbido is the exact word for morbid though).

But - morboso in sexual context means “kinky” or “freaky” 🤦🏻‍♂️ Somebody open a ticket with Google translate please. 🤣

They mistranslate morboso which in the Spanish urban dictionary means: kinky, horny, naughty, etc. 

We've talked about this subject in some specific threads about some guys. 

Maybe we should reach out and explain to them not to say that in their profiles. It's always a good idea to have a native English speaker read an ad before making it public. 

On 2/11/2024 at 5:22 PM, azdr0710 said:

"morbid" is a commonly seen "English" word in provider ads poorly translated from Spanish when using GoogleTranslate......they are trying to say soft, smooth, tender (morbido)

 

On 2/12/2024 at 4:12 PM, Peter Eater said:

Thanks. Now I am seriously interested in the horny and morbid boy!

 

[+ azdr0710]

But watch out for the sportif dudes who offer morbid moments and good sexi. 

[DFdub]

49 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

They mistranslate morboso which in the Spanish urban dictionary means: kinky, horny, naughty, etc. 

We've talked about this subject in some specific threads about some guys. 

Maybe we should reach out and explain to them not to say that in their profiles. It's always a good idea to have a native English speaker read an ad before making it public. 

 

 

Yeah, I saw that thread, but it incorrectly assumed the word being translated was morbido vs morboso, which makes more sense in context (to me at least).

[DFdub]

49 minutes ago, azdr0710 said:

But watch out for the sportif dudes who offer morbid moments and good sexi. 

Now that guy I want to meet!

[soloyo215]

3 hours ago, DFdub said:

So, been wondering why so many Spanish speaking providers describe themselves as “morbid” in English. Saw a provider today with text in English and Spanish and solved mystery.

Morboso is the word translated, which can mean morbid/macabre as an option (morbido is the exact word for morbid though).

But - morboso in sexual context means “kinky” or “freaky” 🤦🏻‍♂️ Somebody open a ticket with Google translate please. 🤣

Morboso means more and differnt things than what you state, of course. It also means thrill seeker, and like in English, it's also a medical term. Additionally, it's used in a sexual content, as meaning uninhibited, which not necessarily means kinky. It could also mean attraction or willingness to delve into the forbidden, whatever that means. Of course it can mean kinky, but not necessarily,

It's a mistake to think that equivalent words in one language are used exactly the same way that they are used in English, or in any other language for that matter. It's a common mistake that sometimes English speakers make and look ridiculous using certain words in other languages, thinking that they can use it as they use them in their native tongue.

The way I see it, Spanish speakers use "morbo" as widely as English speakers use their own common terms ("personable", "friendly" "wild in the sheets", etc.) Just a filling expression (IMO).

As much as some of us might love to get kinky with some of them, I'm not sure that's what they all mean. Interesting observation.

Edited August 29, 2024 by soloyo215

[Simon Suraci]

Whew! Glad the Spanish speakers are not a bunch of necrophiles.

[DFdub]

2 hours ago, soloyo215 said:

Morboso means more and differnt things than what you state, of course. It also means thrill seeker, and like in English, it's also a medical term. Additionally, it's used in a sexual content, as meaning uninhibited, which not necessarily means kinky. It could also mean attraction or willingness to delve into the forbidden, whatever that means. Of course it can mean kinky, but not necessarily,

It's a mistake to think that equivalent words in one language are used exactly the same way that they are used in English, or in any other language for that matter. It's a common mistake that sometimes English speakers make and look ridiculous using certain words in other languages, thinking that they can use it as they use them in their native tongue.

The way I see it, Spanish speakers use "morbo" as widely as English speakers use their own common terms ("personable", "friendly" "wild in the sheets", etc.) Just a filling expression (IMO).

As much as some of us might love to get kinky with some of them, I'm not sure that's what they all mean. Interesting observation.

I mentioned that it means other things.  All three of the sexual connotations you listed though are equivalencies of kinky. Kinky means knotted rope, a sexual thrill seeker, and BDSM enthusiast and many things.

It's a mistake to think that equivalent ideas and concepts do not have comparable expressions in English, or in any other language for that matter. It's a common mistake that sometimes English speakers and Spanish speakers (and everyone) make and look ridiculous implying concepts don't have simple similar expressions in other languages, thinking their native tongue alone has a way to convey easily.

Nuance exists in all languages, as do multiple interpretations of a single word that are substantially the same (when not being pedantic anyway). Certainly idiomatic expressions can often be translated perfectly in concept though with words appropriate to the target language. This is one of the reasons the dynamic equivalence approach to translation is often considered superior today. It's the same concept when interpretting words across time within the same language, too. I'm sure each of us can name a dozen words in our native language that do not have the precise same meaning today as 100 years ago.

None of that prevents effective translation IMO. 🤷🏻‍♂️. Great discourse! Love debating ideas. 😁

[+ José Soplanucas]

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Cuelo a pelo con dulces - I fuck bareback with ...? Chupa ya roc - suck now/already ...? Parchar - ? Liga - ? For example "doy liga verga" Morboso - ? For...

 

[pubic_assistance]

6 hours ago, DFdub said:

It's a mistake to think that equivalent ideas and concepts do not have comparable expressions in English,

English is a very rich language because it borrows so much from other languages.

My translation of morboso has always been "naughty". Not sure why no one else knows that. Maybe I'm wrong 🤔 ?

[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

English is a very rich language because it borrows so much from other languages.

My translation of morboso has always been "naughty". Not sure why no one else knows that. Maybe I'm wrong 🤔 ?

Uninhibited too.

[liubit]

Native Spanish speaker here. The morbid-morboso conundrum is a typical case of lost in translation. 

[pubic_assistance]

10 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Uninhibited too.

Well....yes. Which is a big part of being sexually "naughty". 

[DFdub]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

Well....yes. Which is a big part of being sexually "naughty". 

Which is how I always think of as the default for kinky.  Think Austin Powers "kinky, baby..." so game for anything, naughty, uninhibited.

"Kinky." being the more serious "the safe word is kaleidescope" and an optional add-on meaning. 🤣

[+ keroscenefire]

Yeah Denver has several recent Venezuelans/Colombians with some odd translations. Some of them like to say complacent (showing smug satisfaction with oneself) instead of complaisant (willing to please others). 

In Spanish, the verb "mover" is also a false friend cognate and used for short-distance travel when a typical English speaker would just use travel. Viajar is the verb for travel but almost always means a longer distance like between two cities and isn't commonly used for like travel across town or whatever. So one escort in Denver says "he can host or move in" with me in his profile. As much as it might be fun to have a live-in Venezuelan, I think I'd prefer to live by myself for now. Haha.

[+ José Soplanucas]

1 hour ago, keroscenefire said:

Yeah Denver has several recent Venezuelans/Colombians with some odd translations. Some of them like to say complacent (showing smug satisfaction with oneself) instead of complaisant (willing to please others). 

In Spanish, the verb "mover" is also a false friend cognate and used for short-distance travel when a typical English speaker would just use travel. Viajar is the verb for travel but almost always means a longer distance like between two cities and isn't commonly used for like travel across town or whatever. So one escort in Denver says "he can host or move in" with me in his profile. As much as it might be fun to have a live-in Venezuelan, I think I'd prefer to live by myself for now. Haha.

"mover" is never use for traveling, short or long. I may be wrong, of course, but if you see that use, we are probably dealing with Spanglish idioms common in the countries closer to the US.

I would love to see the original wording you are translating from Spanish. The problem may be in the translation, not in the original language.

[+ keroscenefire]

2 hours ago, José Soplanucas said:

"mover" is never use for traveling, short or long. I may be wrong, of course, but if you see that use, we are probably dealing with Spanglish idioms common in the countries closer to the US.

I would love to see the original wording you are translating from Spanish. The problem may be in the translation, not in the original language.

Yeah I always though mudar meant to like move (in the sense to a new town or apartment) where mover meant more to move an object or part of your body.  So I am not sure where the translation broke down. Here is the direct quote from the profile "You can come to my apartment or I can move in."  https://rent.men/FernandotopXL

[+ DrownedBoy]

Does anyone know what it means if a Latino says he's interested in a "king job?" I got a text like that once on Grindr for a guy who was "buscando trabaja."

[+ José Soplanucas]

1 hour ago, DrownedBoy said:

Does anyone know what it means if a Latino says he's interested in a "king job?" I got a text like that once on Grindr for a guy who was "buscando trabaja."

Do you mean a burger king job?

[moonlight]

Interesting thread. Once saw an ad with Spanish and English text. Morbo was translated as "passionate."

[Hlparx]

21 hours ago, keroscenefire said:

Yeah Denver has several recent Venezuelans/Colombians with some odd translations. Some of them like to say complacent (showing smug satisfaction with oneself) instead of complaisant (willing to please others). 

In Spanish, the verb "mover" is also a false friend cognate and used for short-distance travel when a typical English speaker would just use travel. Viajar is the verb for travel but almost always means a longer distance like between two cities and isn't commonly used for like travel across town or whatever. So one escort in Denver says "he can host or move in" with me in his profile. As much as it might be fun to have a live-in Venezuelan, I think I'd prefer to live by myself for now. Haha.

Here are a couple examples from Hunqz.  One from a Spanish escort’s ad and the other from a French Moroccan’s ad.

Edited August 31, 2024 by Hlparx
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[+ José Soplanucas]

1 hour ago, Hlparx said:

Here are a couple examples from Hunqz.  One from a Spanish escort’s ad and the other from a French Moroccan’s ad.

The first one is just a bad translation. "Me desplazo a" is translated as "I can move to", but it actually means "I can go to".

[+ José Soplanucas]

On 8/29/2024 at 10:23 PM, pubic_assistance said:

English is a very rich language because it borrows so much from other languages.

 

Isn't this a feature common to any language?

[+ José Soplanucas]

On 8/29/2024 at 3:48 PM, DFdub said:

It's a mistake to think that equivalent ideas and concepts do not have comparable expressions in English, or in any other language for that matter.

I disagree there, my friend. There are many occasions where there are no equivalencies, although of course we have the tools to explain the meaning. The most known example is the number of words to designate ice and snow by the Inupiat people. Or how would you translate to English the Spanish "sobremesa". You can explain it, but you cannot translate it. 

Of course, English is not handicap, it is a challenge for everyone, as the same happens with some of the concepts expressed in the English language. For instance, when I left Argentina en 2002, I did not know the word "empoderar". As there was no equivalent expression in Spanish for the concept expressed by empowerment, the family of words around "empoderar" (a Spanglish word imported through USA's influence) was borrowed and finally accepted by the Real Academia Española while I was residing in the US.

Edited September 2, 2024 by José Soplanucas

[+ DrownedBoy]

English is different from a lot of other languages. It's a Germanic language, not a Latin-rooted Romantic language like Spanish, Italian, or the other major Romance languages.

However, English speakers never got used to the German practice of creating new words by stringing simpler words together (like "geisteskrank" or "besserwissel"), which allow you to create new words expressing new concepts that regular speakers can still figure out.