+ JamesB Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 1 hour ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: some providers on RM seem to be able to make poor reviews disappear- not sure how it happens. There are also providers who, after delivering a poor performance, immediately block the client to prevent them from leaving a negative review. + APPLE1 and + DrownedBoy 2
marylander1940 Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 3 minutes ago, JamesB said: There are also providers who, after delivering a poor performance, immediately block the client to prevent them from leaving a negative review. or get their negative reviews removed, it happened to me twice and I closed my account n RM because of that. + APPLE1 and ProjectX 1 1
+ JamesB Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: or get their negative reviews removed, it happened to me twice and I closed my account n RM because of that. Exactly my experience as well.
marylander1940 Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 On 5/22/2024 at 11:19 AM, SouthOfTheBorder said: check the reviews for patterns. frequently, there are many reviews by same person. also, look at when the reviewer became a member - lots of reviews by people who signed up same month. Or, if several reviews happen in a short period of time. there are definitely some guys gaming the system. not possible w hundreds of reviews tho They can only "game" the system if they create paid accounts with friends CC, as you say that's impossible to do with hundreds of reviews. On a good trip an escort is usually busier than back home, therefore he could get multiple reviews within a few days and after that no reviews for a while, also if the same guy reviews an escort is because he's a regular. I know an escort who has over 300 reviews and still guys ask him if he's a cop... He had 2 negative reviews that were later removed, and potential clients constantly asked him about them: "what went wrong?", etc. To some folks nobody is good enough!
+ JamesB Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 9 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: They can only "game" the system if they create paid accounts with friends CC, as you say that's impossible to do with hundreds of reviews. I have firsthand knowledge of a provider that will give 50% off your next appointment in exchange for a 5 star review. marylander1940 and + DrownedBoy 1 1
SouthOfTheBorder Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 38 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: They can only "game" the system if they create paid accounts with friends CC the assumption is RM would be looking for duplicate CC transactions & they wouldn’t allow a card used by a provider to be used to create a client profile. doubtful RM cares, since they seem entirely focused on money. And accounts can created some as one-time transactions only. for a provider that understands the importance of reviews - it’s a very small price to pay for the ability to post positive reviews & drive client engagement. and there could be some providers splitting the cost to post positive reviews to several accounts there are definitely suspect reviews & patterns on RM - however it happens marylander1940 1
Tane Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 1 hour ago, JamesB said: I have firsthand knowledge of a provider that will give 50% off your next appointment in exchange for a 5 star review. Yes, I've been offered this deal too
MikeBiDude Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 8 hours ago, Quincy_7 said: I remember seeing Milan Twink going from under ten reviews to over 100 in less than a year. That scared me off any further engagements. But one of his real reviews was from me! 😉 Luv2play 1
+ DrownedBoy Posted May 23, 2024 Posted May 23, 2024 5 hours ago, Tane said: Yes, I've been offered this deal too I always get asked nowadays. Guys with no reviews can be desperate, and even guys with lots of reviews push me. I've had to turn down a regular because I don't want to leave that many reviews on a single person. As I said, that's a red flag. One other thing - you always have the option to contact the client who left a review, and ask them about it. I get constant RM messages like that. Usually I tell them to join CoM and PM me here.
Constantine Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 1 hour ago, MikeBiDude said: But one of his real reviews was from me! 😉 I had him before he got famous. MikeBiDude, + DrownedBoy and Your Man in Arlington 1 2
panpanda Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 It depends. I use Rentmasseur and check for reviews. Some masseurs use bots to fill their reviews, and those are easily noticeable because the reviews would often be posted minutes apart, or the way way the review is written looks weird, or the rates don't match up. I think you just have to use your best discretion and judgment for reviewing the reviews.
+ APPLE1 Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 You can game the system indefinitely, especially if you pool resources. I mean really, we have many posts here about the " Murray Hill Gang." How difficult would it be for several providers to kick money into a pool and fund memberships for people who do nothing but write great reviews. + JamesB 1
+ APPLE1 Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 (edited) On 5/23/2024 at 11:31 AM, marylander1940 said: or get their negative reviews removed, it happened to me twice and I closed my account n RM because of that. And that is why, I would much rather donate funds here. I feel like keeping this site alive and solvent, is a much better return on my investment. Edited May 24, 2024 by APPLE1 + DrownedBoy 1
dbar123 Posted May 26, 2024 Posted May 26, 2024 It would be a red flag for me if all of the reviews were for one hour…. I like to see a healthy mix of time durations. If there are multiple reviews from the same person I look to see if the dwell time is increasing with more recent reviews marylander1940 1
hopeman Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 Also keep in mind some clients do tend to give guys 5 stars in the hopes the provider will come back for a second round. Even if they were not 5 star material. MikeBiDude 1
marylander1940 Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 2 hours ago, hopeman said: Also keep in mind some clients do tend to give guys 5 stars in the hopes the provider will come back for a second round. Even if they were not 5 star material. The provider will only come back for a second round if invited $ by the client. Is up to the client to rehire him or move on to someone else. Talking this slight off subject I know some escorts avoid seeing clients who have left negative reviews because they could do it again and they might be just difficult. Obviously not all clients click and save their reviews in their review list.
marylander1940 Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 On 5/26/2024 at 12:02 PM, dbar123 said: It would be a red flag for me if all of the reviews were for one hour…. I like to see a healthy mix of time durations. If there are multiple reviews from the same person I look to see if the dwell time is increasing with more recent reviews Most clients hire for 1 hour! Also not all clients review or nowadays can review because some don't want to have their information saved in RM after what happened to RB. On 5/23/2024 at 1:23 PM, SouthOfTheBorder said: the assumption is RM would be looking for duplicate CC transactions & they wouldn’t allow a card used by a provider to be used to create a client profile. doubtful RM cares, since they seem entirely focused on money. And accounts can created some as one-time transactions only. for a provider that understands the importance of reviews - it’s a very small price to pay for the ability to post positive reviews & drive client engagement. and there could be some providers splitting the cost to post positive reviews to several accounts there are definitely suspect reviews & patterns on RM - however it happens I'm amazed all of the sudden reviews are so important, I recall many threads saying things like "RM reviews are unreliable", etc.
dbar123 Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 52 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: Most clients hire for 1 hour! If all of the reviews are for an hour, that’s usually a “tell” that the provider is pricier than average
marylander1940 Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 3 minutes ago, dbar123 said: If all of the reviews are for an hour, that’s usually a “tell” that the provider is pricier than average Is that good or bad? You can know we're simply ask how much does he charge Again most guys hire per hour, few hire overnight or trips, therefore an overwhelming number of reviews are for 1 hour service
dbar123 Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 3 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: Is that good or bad? You can know we're simply ask how much does he charge IME a lot of higher priced guys don’t respond immediately with pricing. If I encounter this I move on. There are plenty of guys out there who are more responsive.
+ DrownedBoy Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 21 hours ago, dbar123 said: If all of the reviews are for an hour, that’s usually a “tell” that the provider is pricier than average I think a lot of clients are just looking for a quick lay, hence the hour. While a lot of clients here, including me, prefer longer, I get the feeling that's only for openly gay men who are comfortable with their sex life.
+ APPLE1 Posted June 1, 2024 Posted June 1, 2024 10 hours ago, DrownedBoy said: I think a lot of clients are just looking for a quick lay, hence the hour. While a lot of clients here, including me, prefer longer, I get the feeling that's only for openly gay men who are comfortable with their sex life. I was with you until "that's only for openly gay men who are comfortable with their sex life." Mainly, I can't accept the converse that I read into that statement: 'if someone wants just an hour, they are either closeted or not comfortable with their sex life.' We all have different proclivities for sex. Top/bottom, quick dirty/drawn out passion, used hard like a slut/loved tenderly like a BF, etc. I think it's inherent to being comfortable with your sex life to know what you want, what you desire, and even know what you are missing in your non-monetized sex life. Maybe you're both tops or bottoms, or don't want a BF experience, or simply enjoy lots of new "faces". If a guy can bring in a provider to scratch that itch, and it's satiated after 30, or 60 mins, good for him.
SouthOfTheBorder Posted June 1, 2024 Posted June 1, 2024 On 5/22/2024 at 11:19 AM, SouthOfTheBorder said: check the reviews for patterns. frequently, there are many reviews by same person patterns like this + DrownedBoy 1
Simon Suraci Posted June 2, 2024 Posted June 2, 2024 One rather enthusiastic client reviewed me several times. 4x in the screencap below plus two more at later dates. What can I say? He was really happy with my service! So far I have received no other duplicate reviews. One recent client was very kind to post the same review across multiple platforms. You all are right to have your fraud detectors on high alert, but once in a while a legit client leaves multiple genuine reviews. It’s not always fraud. MikeBiDude, + APPLE1 and mike carey 2 1
BuffaloKyle Posted June 3, 2024 Posted June 3, 2024 On 6/1/2024 at 3:32 PM, SouthOfTheBorder said: patterns like this Most definitely has to be a working guy to afford all those lengthy sessions! 😅
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