whmf Posted April 2, 2024 Posted April 2, 2024 I went to a session with one of my preferred providers today (Rainer of LA). I see him from time to time, but this has happened with a few others that I like as well. At the beginning they honor the time that we agreed on. I usually ask for 90 minute sessions. Over a few sessions, I find that the session is maximum an hour long. It's a good session, but it's not what I paid for. In some cases, the difference in cost between 90 and 60 minutes is very significant. Because I really like these few providers where this issue is happening, I'm a little anxious to bring up the topic, because I'm worried that it will sour a very good/natural relationship. At the same time, I'm annoyed. I'm wondering if any of you have a preferred way of addressing this issue, or if you guys leave it alone to not ruin the relationship... If any providers are reading this, how would you want it addressed if you were the provider in this case?
CuriousGuy714 Posted April 2, 2024 Posted April 2, 2024 For this very reason, I never schedule 90-minute sessions. You pay massage therapists for their time, so if they short you, you should compensate accordingly. By using the word “relationship” a couple of times in your post, it also sounds like you’ve grown attached to your favorites. At the end of the day though, you’re just a client to them. 90 percent of the masseurs in LA overcharge anyway, so take your hard-earned cash elsewhere if they begin to cut your appointment times short. If you absolutely can’t live without their massage, then bring it up and they should understand. If not, move on! Again, so many take advantage of the service they’re providing and are getting paid $150+ an hour for just a mediocre massage. I know everyone in LA seems to be millionaires but these guys are making the same per hour as someone on a $300K+ annual salary. For that kind of money, their hands shouldn’t be coming off your body until the 90-min mark. Lotus-eater, Njguy2, Johnrom and 6 others 1 1 4 3
mike carey Posted April 2, 2024 Posted April 2, 2024 39 minutes ago, CuriousGuy714 said: ... By using the word “relationship” a couple of times in your post, it also sounds like you’ve grown attached to your favorites. At the end of the day though, you’re just a client to them ... The word 'relationship' is very flexible, so I wouldn't read too much into it. A professional relationship is still a relationship if it involves periodic contact, whether it's your doctor, accountant or masseur. If you go to the same cafe every morning, your relationship with your barista is probably one of your closest (and they may know more about you than anyone else!). Johnrom, starman05, whmf and 1 other 2 2
+ JamesB Posted April 2, 2024 Posted April 2, 2024 I really dislike when my time is cut short, which unfortunately has occurred several times. If it's the first encounter with that provider, I opt not to hire them again. However, if they're a regular provider, I approach the situation differently. I believe some of them may take clients for granted and assume they don't need to put in effort to retain them. Typically, I may lightly mention the issue of ending sessions early, and most providers understand the hint. If they don't, I'll have a conversation with them before considering hiring them again to address the matter directly. whmf, Simon Suraci and Johnrom 1 2
pubic_assistance Posted April 2, 2024 Posted April 2, 2024 I think with all human interactions when you have an uncomfortable situation like being shorted on time and you're afraid to bring up the subject for fear of upsetting the other person......act dumb. "Oh..are we done already ? I could have sworn I booked for 90 minutes not 60. Am I wrong ? " whmf, Simon Suraci, Lohengrin1979 and 4 others 5 2
Johnrom Posted April 2, 2024 Posted April 2, 2024 Agreed. It is disrespectful when time is cut short. For a 60 minute session, the massage should last close to 50 mins with ten minutes allowed to get dressed, clean up, final chat and part ways. I think with regulars they can start taking you for granted which is unfortunate. I think it might be unintentional but it lacks professionalism. I agree, play dumb and mention the time issue. Otherwise you will stew and sulk and feel cheated. At the end of the day, it is still a business transaction. Speak up and stand up for yourself. You can do it in a nice polite way. pubic_assistance, Simon Suraci and whmf 1 1 1
dbar123 Posted April 2, 2024 Posted April 2, 2024 When that happens, I just ask them to massage another part of my body that needs a little more. Sometimes it pays to take a little control in a nice way Johnrom and + Vegas_Millennial 2
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted April 2, 2024 Posted April 2, 2024 (edited) 59 minutes ago, dbar123 said: When that happens, I just ask them to massage another part of my body that needs a little more. Sometimes it pays to take a little control in a nice way I do this, too. If I see him starting to clean up at an hour when we've booked for 90 minutes, I'll say, "For the last 20 minutes, can you focus on my feet and calves?". I've never had a masseur say no. One time, I just paid him for the hour rate instead of the 90 minute rate. He had no problem with that. But being shortened on time rarely happens. Most masseurs finish right on time, or even go over by a few minutes and then I tip accordingly. I always book 2 hour sessions if available. Edited April 2, 2024 by Vegas_Millennial Simon Suraci, + keroscenefire, Johnrom and 2 others 5
Monarchy79 Posted April 2, 2024 Posted April 2, 2024 16 hours ago, fs12395 said: I usually ask for 90 minute sessions. Over a few sessions, I find that the session is maximum an hour long. Suggested Solution: Book 60 minute sessions moving forward. The rate will now be a direct match with the service. thomas, Lotus-eater and Dr.Daddy 2 1
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