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...replace Uber or rideshare with? I understand that using rideshare/Uber to transport the provider can be used to decrease flakiness from either parties, and it can be used to replace any pre-meeting deposit. Then, the client can just pay cash in person to prevent any audit trail. However, doesn't rideshare/Uber also leave an audit trail? What would be the best way to replace it?

I guess, this question is more applicable to countries with stricter laws.

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Personal vehicle or call a taxi and pay cash, there is no absolute anonymous way to use rideshare.  But then there are possibly tolls and traffic cameras that sweep up license plate numbers, which can be used to determine the route you took.  Even walking is not completely discreet since cameras along your route can have facial recognition capabilities. There is no way to guarantee completely anonymous travel in these times.

 

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Make sure your phone is either not with you or is turned off or your travels will be tracked by your phone.  (Okay, I guess you could leave your phone on and turn on airplane mode, but I think it would be safest just to turn it off.)

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2 hours ago, maninsoma said:

Make sure your phone is either not with you or is turned off or your travels will be tracked by your phone.  (Okay, I guess you could leave your phone on and turn on airplane mode, but I think it would be safest just to turn it off.)

Airplane mode wouldn't be sufficient protection.  The phone can still passively receive radio signals and often Wi-Fi and Bluetooth are still active in airplane mode now by default.  It can still track your location as you move about and sync up once it can contact Google or Apple.  Turning the phone off would be the only way to assure no continuous location tracking is active.

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21 hours ago, newdad said:

...replace Uber or rideshare with? I understand that using rideshare/Uber to transport the provider can be used to decrease flakiness from either parties, and it can be used to replace any pre-meeting deposit. Then, the client can just pay cash in person to prevent any audit trail. However, doesn't rideshare/Uber also leave an audit trail? What would be the best way to replace it?

I guess, this question is more applicable to countries with stricter laws.

Use cash, take a taxi or public transit or walk.  Wear sunglasses, hat, and scarf while traveling.

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2 hours ago, keroscenefire said:

At a certain point, you can't be too paranoid to do this hobby.

Good advice.

And like I've always said, if you have a lot to lose, life-changing kinds of things, this is probably not the hobby for you.

Sooner or later, people always slip up.

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12 hours ago, keroscenefire said:

At a certain point, you can't be too paranoid to do this hobby.

Exactly, because what if the tables were turned:

Escort doesn’t show face

Doesn’t provide phone number

Doesn’t host

Only takes cash (meaning all the guys who don’t have access to ATM need to leave and get atm money late at night)

Basically doesn’t even include a picture of himself at all, just a promise to show up (sound familiar?)

I’m thinking of doing an alternative to deposits by just asking for a picture. But some people I know, won’t even do that. But of course that barely matters either because I’m pretty sure either they won’t or, it’ll be something explicit with no face.

 

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2 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Exactly, because what if the tables were turned:

Escort doesn’t show face

Doesn’t provide phone number

Doesn’t host

Only takes cash (meaning all the guys who don’t have access to ATM need to leave and get atm money late at night)

Basically doesn’t even include a picture of himself at all, just a promise to show up (sound familiar?)

I’m thinking of doing an alternative to deposits by just asking for a picture. But some people I know, won’t even do that. But of course that barely matters either because I’m pretty sure either they won’t or, it’ll be something explicit with no face.

 

One of my longtime regulars never showed his face in his ad and only took cash 😂. He is model handsome and has a well paying job.

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I've never sent an Uber for someone, but what exactly is the info that would be captured by the app?  Your info plus the ride start/end/route plus?  A first name of the escort being picked up?  Or does the app ask for more info?

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On 2/29/2024 at 8:58 AM, keroscenefire said:

At a certain point, you can't be too paranoid to do this hobby.

This. It's unlikely the police or law will ever get involved, especially if you're in a liberal city. But if someone has it in for you, you can be traced and followed.

I doubt that many of us have enemies that obsessed or resourceful. I for one am not important enough for that.

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