HPV

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

54 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

How old where you when you got vaccinated?

 

 

[+ nycman]

2 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

How old where you when you got vaccinated?

 

I am outside the "guidelines" (e.g over 45) and not yet on Medicare (e.g. under 65).

[Anthony]

On 4/16/2024 at 5:12 PM, nycman said:

I don’t mind sharing with the crowd.

It is a series of 3 shots at zero, 2 months, and 6 months. I got my 3 shots in the early fall into winter of this past year.

I only had a reaction to the second shot. Interestingly that was also the shot that seemed to attack the wart on my foot. I was "achy’ all over, low grade fever, mild headache, and "felt sick". Took Motrin and got into a hot bath. Total time "not feeling good" was maybe 2-3 hours.

Hope that helps. Get the shots!

Can you please be specific on "felt sick"? I have a case of emetophobia that I discovered and that's exactly what's bothering me. IIRC when young adolescents get the shot, its only 2 shots.  

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

6 hours ago, Anthony said:

Can you please be specific on "felt sick"? I have a case of emetophobia that I discovered and that's exactly what's bothering me. IIRC when young adolescents get the shot, its only 2 shots.  

It's not stomach related.  You won't vomit.  It's the feeling of being tired.

And frankly, wouldn't you rather just deal with the mentality of it for a few days, let it pass and then know you're safely vaxxed against HPV?

Discomfort is a part of life.  It's worth it when the reward makes sense.

Edited April 19, 2024 by BenjaminNicholas

[+ nycman]

8 hours ago, Anthony said:

I have a case of emetophobia

I didn’t experience any gastrointestinal symptoms. Certainly no nausea or vomiting. Just feverish and achy all over. For the unwashed masses, emetophobia is the irrational fear of vomiting. It’s particularly entertaining when someone else vomits near them, and the person with emetophobia passes out as a result. 

I’m sorry you suffer from this, it must be hell when you get food poisoning.

Get the shots. 

 

Edited April 19, 2024 by nycman

[+ APPLE1]

Most people would be more comfortable with vaccinations if the medical community gave us honest expectations and said right up front:
It's likely going to make you feel a little sick, and it's supposed to. That means you immune system is working and reacting to it.

Pain, fever, runny nose, etc are all your body saying "there's a pathogen here. We need to activate systems to kill it, and get it out of here."

Giving a false sense of "you'll feel just fine," makes many people believe that any discomfort is a "reaction" to a vaccine. The reality is that symptoms less than the full blow disease are normal.

 

[+ Tygerscent]

On 1/28/2024 at 2:45 PM, marylander1940 said:

 

I know an escort who is 49, his Doctor told him he's too old to get vaccinated now.

Should he be vaccinated? He still has 5-10 years ahead in this profession!

Well, if the vaccination truly offers prevention of any type of cancer, as is presented in various research, what would be the downside of getting them besides the cost of it out of pocket? 

[+ Tygerscent]

1 hour ago, Tygerscent said:

Well, if the vaccination truly offers prevention of any type of cancer, as is presented in various research, what would be the downside of getting them besides the cost of it out of pocket? 

Although… cancer cells can and do mutate around their treatments~ Depends on their structure~ 

[Anthony]

On 4/19/2024 at 4:11 PM, nycman said:

I didn’t experience any gastrointestinal symptoms. Certainly no nausea or vomiting. Just feverish and achy all over. For the unwashed masses, emetophobia is the irrational fear of vomiting. It’s particularly entertaining when someone else vomits near them, and the person with emetophobia passes out as a result. 

I’m sorry you suffer from this, it must be hell when you get food poisoning.

Get the shots. 

 

It also bothers me if I have to take any medicine because so many medications list vomiting and nausea as side affects. Food poisoning is what initially gave me emetophobia. 

[+ purplekow]

1 hour ago, Anthony said:

It also bothers me if I have to take any medicine because so many medications list vomiting and nausea as side affects. Food poisoning is what initially gave me emetophobia. 

Side effects as listed for medications do not necessarily mean cause and effect.  People can report any side effects to the manufacturer when taking medication and if that measures to more than 2% the side effect is listed as possible related.  Lesser side effects will also be listed, just not was prominently.  

HPV is given as two injections between ages 9 and 14 usually 18 months or so apart.  If not completed additional vaccinations can be given between ages 15 and 26.  If there is immunosuppressive condition, a third vaccination is suggested.  After age 26 until age 45, the decision to vaccinate is a decision between doctor and patient.  Usually it is considered that a person with prior low exposure who might now, at an older age be more exposed, is someone who is eligible for a vaccine in that age group.  

There are no recommendations for immunization after the age or 45.  If you were to receive it, a physician would be giving the medication off label.  If there were a significant reaction, the drug manufacturer would have greater legal protection from liability.  Not all physicians are willing to give medications off label, but many do.  A physician who deals with sexually active mature adults, such as the physician providing PrEP, would likely be amenable to a discussion of the appropriateness of HPV vaccination for anyone who has a concern about it.  

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

17 hours ago, Anthony said:

It also bothers me if I have to take any medicine because so many medications list vomiting and nausea as side affects (sic)

As Purple eloquently replied, correlation is not always causation.

[+ purplekow]

3 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

As Purple eloquently replied, correlation is not always causation.

Geez, your tight tight phrasing is a wonder to behold and in truth that tightness got me more than a little excited. 

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

2 hours ago, purplekow said:

Geez, your tight tight phrasing is a wonder to behold and in truth that tightness got me more than a little excited. 

You know how I keep it so tight?

I squeeze lemon juice on it every morning.

Puckers right up.

 

... Are we still talking about my phrasing?

[HIRINGGUY]

Update FWIW.  My provider finally had me tested for the most "problematic" strains of the HPV virus (those that are known to lead to cancer).  I am negative for all of them.  Interesting because I am having cellular anal dysplasia.   So, the test results are good news.....still uncertain what it all means.

Get your HPV Vaccine!

[AlaskaBear]

The HPV vaccine is truly lifesaving in the sense it can help avoid tough types of cancer, and I strongly advocate for it as well. For people who do oral or anal often, etc, it plays a crucial role in preventing several types of cancer, including cervical, throat, delicate locations. By getting vaccinated, you’re not only protecting your own health but also contributing to other people being safe. It’s effective, quick, and anyone who has casual sex should consider it.

[Constantine]

5 minutes ago, AlaskaBear said:

and anyone who has casual sex should consider it.

 

 

I'd even go as far as to say you should still get it even if you're married. You never know what your partner may have picked up before they met you. And let's not even talk about infidelity. 

[+ PhileasFogg]

On 9/22/2024 at 4:06 PM, Quincy_7 said:

I'd even go as far as to say you should still get it even if you're married. You never know what your partner may have picked up before they met you. And let's not even talk about infidelity. 

I had it in the 80’s and it was lasered off.  My ex-wife and I were together for years, but at least one of us brought it into the marriage.  

[marylander1940]

You're never too old to do it! 

Doctors now are even offering guys in their 50's the vaccine! 

[+ purplekow]

13 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

You're never too old to do it! 

Doctors now are even offering guys in their 50's the vaccine! 

Unless there has been some change in the recommendations,, this vaccine may be given to people up to age 45.  Doctors offering it after that age are doing so off label.  That is not unique but just because it if offered by a doctor does not mean it is FDA approved.  As such, if there is a problem with the medication, the company will likely not be held libel while the admininstering physician will be.  

[marylander1940]

20 minutes ago, purplekow said:

Unless there has been some change in the recommendations,, this vaccine may be given to people up to age 45.  Doctors offering it after that age are doing so off label.  That is not unique but just because it if offered by a doctor does not mean it is FDA approved.  As such, if there is a problem with the medication, the company will likely not be held libel while the admininstering physician will be.  

I'm aware of those recommendations. The more vaccinated the better although that might be a controversial statement to say in this day and age. 

I know a local escort who just finished his vaccinations, I'm sure he's been exposed many times but a close encounter with a younger client who had it made him realized it was time to ask about it to his PCP.

It took some effort by the pharmacists at CVS for his 3rd vaccine to go through though.

Edited October 24, 2024 by marylander1940

[Anthony]

2 hours ago, purplekow said:

Unless there has been some change in the recommendations,, this vaccine may be given to people up to age 45.  Doctors offering it after that age are doing so off label.  That is not unique but just because it if offered by a doctor does not mean it is FDA approved.  As such, if there is a problem with the medication, the company will likely not be held libel while the admininstering physician will be.  

Actually when it comes to vaccines the pharmaceutical companies are not held responsible if they cause harm due to the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 (The Vaccine Act) 

[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, Anthony said:

Actually when it comes to vaccines the pharmaceutical companies are not held responsible if they cause harm due to the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 (The Vaccine Act) 

Agreed!

That bill later inspired by the "Good Samaritan Bill"; many countries have similar laws making it difficult to prosecute those trying to help. 

 

[+ purplekow]

On 10/24/2024 at 1:17 PM, Anthony said:

Actually when it comes to vaccines the pharmaceutical companies are not held responsible if they cause harm due to the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 (The Vaccine Act) 

Did not know that.  Still if a physician does not prescribe it properly, he can be held responsible which was the main point in giving the vaccine after the age of 45.  

[HIRINGGUY]

On 1/17/2024 at 3:57 PM, HIRINGGUY said:

There is some clinical research going on in this area, and I hope finding a treatment can be accelerated by CRISPR technology.

There is a mushroom extract called AHCC which has some success (clinically proven in research studies) in clearing the virus, not directly attacking the virus rather by boosting your immune system to clear the virus.  I took AHCC religiously for 1 year (and other immune-boosting supplements), and simultaneously got the HPV vaccination to see if combined they would bolster my own immune system to clear the virus.  Since there is no test for the HPV virus, not clear if it worked or not but there has been no improvement or change in my cell structures (not sure that is even a "thing").  Have not had to go the freeze/burn route yet but have to be tested (scoped) every 6-12 months.

1 year later.....

So, my most recent anascopy.....showed no irregularities in my anus.   And, my pap smear came back clear.  My provider (PA) ordered a lab test to see if I had one of the top 3 strains of HPV....also came back negative! 

I am optimistically hoping that I have cleared the virus.  I will need to have annual pap smears to confirm.

For others who may be in the same situation, here is the regimen I followed for 1 year (religiously):

• AHCC 3 grams daily
• Probiotic capsule, daily
• KPax multivitamin, daily

All 3 of these are immune boosters, they do not attack the virus directly the idea here is to boost your normal immune system enough that it will attack and clear the virus.    This is an expensive regimen, probably $100-150 per month.  Important to manage your sleep, alcohol consumption and other aspects of taking care of your body.

During the 2nd 6 months of this regimen....I also did the 3-shot regimen for HPV (Gardasil) hoping it would trigger my immune response to the virus (note this is not a sanctioned use of the vaccine, my MD agreed to do this "off label").

I am no longer ruminating daily about getting anal cancer, or worried about passing it on to others.

Happy New Year!

PS I should note, my first negative pap smear happened in 2017. 

1/17: anal pap: ASCUS, HR HPV negative

6/18: HRA no acetic acid enhancement, benign exam. anal pap: LSIL

10/19 - HRA (AM): wart detected

11/20 - HRA (JT): Wart ablated and removed. Cyt = ASCUS

5/21 - HRA (JT): no warts or Cytology = LSIL

5/22 - HRA (JT): Mild AWE throughout TZ. Cytology = ASCUS

8/22 - HRA (JT): Ablation of HSIL lesion at RA

4/23 - HRA (JT): No AWE, No dysplasia identified. Cytology = No malignant cells identified.

Did AHCC regimen Jan 2021-Dec 2021, HPV Vaccine 3/21, 5/21 & 9/21

 

 

Edited January 7 by HIRINGGUY

[HIRINGGUY]

Another year hence:  pap smear is negative, HPV test negative

At this point....I feel like I'm good! Phew!

If you have HPV here is the regimen I followed strictly for one year:

• AHCC 1.5 G daily (mushroom extract)
• KPax vitamin supplement daily (KPax was developed during the AIDS crisis as an immune-boosting vitamin cocktail)
• Probiotic capsule daily

The point of the regimen is to boost your natural immune system to clear the virus.

I also did the full regimen of HPV vaccines simultaneously (3 shots?)

Get your HPV vaccine!