QUESTIONS ABOUT TATS

[marylander1940]

I don't mind them unless they reach the neck, hand and specially face. 

Now it's unusual to find someone doing porno or escorting who's not inked and I know guys who sometimes get hired because they are the only ones without tattoos. 

[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

The term "attractive tattoo" is an oxymoron.

Bozo would never hire an inked escort. Period.
First, I find tattoos to be hideous, repulsive, and low-class. Putting ink on a well-built physique is like throwing red paint on the Mona Lisa. It's defiling a work-of-art.
Second, Bozo would be embarrassed to have an escort with visible ink on his body come to his apartment or hotel room.

Anyone who thinks it is cool to get a tattoo in their 20's, 30's or even 40's, just wait for Mother Nature and the laws of gravity to take hold. The skin will sag and the tattoos will fade.
In a few years, it won't look cool. More like gross.

Here is some free advice to anyone who feels the need to express themselves or memorialize an event in their life by desecrating their body with ink: Take a photo. It is much cheaper, it will last longer, and it can always be deleted.

BoZo

I agree with you but I would prefer to say it in a more kind tone.

Desecration? According to some gay men do that daily!  

Let's be little less judgy 

Edited August 16, 2023 by marylander1940

[jusmeinbr]

It is very rare to find a young provider without tattoos and, in my opinion, they are keenly aware of that fact and therefore know they can command a higher hourly rate.  Further, I am willing to pay that higher rate because I find tattoos to be a major turnoff.

I previously posted that I met with a provider visiting New Orleans at the start of this year six times in the week he spent visiting from Boston.  With tips, he earned $2,400 from me alone, and he was worth every penny of it from my vantage point.  Had he placed tattoos over his gorgeous body, he wouldn’t have gotten the first dime from me.

I told him what a rare find he was given the propensity for guys his age to have tattoos, and he told me that he found them to be “disgusting.”

There just may be a chance these tattoos are costing some providers more than they ever dreamed of and certainly more than the cost of the tattoos themselves.

[+ KensingtonHomo]

30 minutes ago, jusmeinbr said:

I told him what a rare find he was given the propensity for guys his age to have tattoos, and he told me that he found them to be “disgusting.”

There just may be a chance these tattoos are costing some providers more than they ever dreamed of and certainly more than the cost of the tattoos themselves.

You sound like MItt Romney. The vast majority of people like or are unfazed by tattoos, piercings and other body art. 

This relentless obsession that some of you have with wanting physical perfection (which is, of course, entirely subjective) is a huge boner killer. It makes you sound completely out of touch with most human beings. 

[Guest]

When I think of tattoos, I think back on what Ronald Reagan said regarding nuclear missiles.  "It would be better to have none than to have some. But if there must be some, it's better to have few than to have many."  I don't mind tattoos on the arms, back, buttocks, or legs. Face, neck, and hand tattoos are a no-no for me. Chest tattoos should be subtle and artistic, if necessary. And I agree with some other posters than I prefer an artistic tattoo to one in which the dude writes a mini-novel on his chest.                                                                                                                                                                                           

[JourneysEnd]

Tattoos can look wonderful and artistic or cheap and tacky. They can really complement someone's appearance or jar horribly. It depends entirely on the tattoo(s) and the person.

Much like clothes...

[JourneysEnd]

Just now, JourneysEnd said:

Tattoos can look wonderful and artistic or cheap and tacky. They can really complement someone's appearance or jar horribly. It depends entirely on the tattoo(s) and the person.

Much like clothes...

Having said that, I do think there's something insanely hot about muscular guys with full body tattoos.

[Simon Suraci]

Diversity is a good thing. If we all had tattoos or none of us did, that would be boring. 

Personally, I don’t really care that much about whether other people get inked. Face tattoos are particularly distracting, but still really not a big deal.

One client had a Medusa on his back and the eyes kept following me as I massaged him. Like Moira Rose in the giant family portrait. Super creepy! I just look away and continue my work.

Another client got a tattoo without his consent. His friends got him passed out drunk one night and got him a tattoo on his butt. It’s a rubber duck. So random. Funny in a moment, but here we are, he and I, talking about it decades later. If that were me, I’d be pissed and pursue legal action against my “friends” right after it happened. It’s so wrong for them to do that without his consent.

For myself, I refuse to apply any permanent body art. It may seem fine in the moment or even a few years later, but fashions change, trends shift, and ink fades and blurs, not to mention gravity takes a toll. I know in 5, 10, or 30 years from now I probably won’t like the way it looks on my body. It will also probably mean something different to me then than it does now.

The worst part is you can’t remove it very easily. It takes many treatments to remove a problematic piece. I remember my stepdad had one of his high school sweetheart emblazoned on his bicep. He hasn’t been with her in decades and tried removing it but never could get rid of it completely. What an unfortunate thing to carry around for the rest of your life.

Aside - sometimes you can successfully ink over old tattoos or incorporate them into new designs. Often easier than removal.

I don’t want what I like and feel in a moment to permanently mark and define my body, and by extension me…especially if what I do for a living requires me to show off my body in some way or another. I’m a simple guy next door type. NOT having tattoos is part of my image and brand. That appeals to some, and I lean into it. It’s hard to find men my age or younger that don’t have any ink, so continuing life without it is actually working in my favor. Plus it fits more closely with who I am. No jewelry, no modifications, no adornment. Just me being confident and comfortable in my own skin. That’s sexy.

More power to the inked guys. You’re sexy too, and I like the look on many of you. It’s just not for me.

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

7 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

The vast majority of people like or are unfazed by tattoos, piercings and other body art. 

It makes you sound completely out of touch with most human beings.

Care to cite statistics or studies that show "the vast majority of people like or are unfazed by tattoos"?
Based solely on the posts in this thread, your statement is patently false.

And what you consider to be "body art", many, if not most, others consider to be body graffiti.

7 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

Literally, no one cares what you think. I have beautiful tattoos that are meaningful to me. You sound like an entitled gaysic dude who thinks bourgeois values (which tend to be sociopathic) are better than millennial old traditions like body art. 

It's fine that you can look at your body ink and claim it is "beautiful". You should be equally open to the opinions of others like Bozo and the majority of posters on this thread who have a different take on tattoos.
Your lashing out with personal attacks doesn't make your opinion any more valid than mine or others'. 

BoZo...   
proudly un-inked

[+ KensingtonHomo]

28 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Care to cite statistics or studies that show "the vast majority of people like or are unfazed by tattoos"?
Based solely on the posts in this thread, your statement is patently false.

Sure, as you can see the vast majority of people see tattoos as a non-issue. A minority of people find them unattractive or indicative of someone being less respectable. But, again, it's a minority. 

United States - perception of people with tattoos 2015 | Statista

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This statistic shows the results of a 2015 survey among adult Americans on the perception of people with...

 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

36 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

It's fine that you can look at your body ink and claim it is "beautiful". You should be equally open to the opinions of others like Bozo and the majority of posters on this thread who have a different take on tattoos.
Your lashing out with personal attacks doesn't make your opinion any more valid than mine or others'. 

Go back and read what you wrote. If you said, "I don't care for tattoos", that's fine. But you called them disgusting an went on a complete diatribe about those of us who have them. 

I don't care for facial hair on 99% of men. Search this forum and see if you ever find me saying that beards are "disgusting, ruin people's face" or anything that is equivalent to your remarks. 

[jusmeinbr]

8 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

You sound like MItt Romney. The vast majority of people like or are unfazed by tattoos, piercings and other body art. 

This relentless obsession that some of you have with wanting physical perfection (which is, of course, entirely subjective) is a huge boner killer. It makes you sound completely out of touch with most human beings. 

Hey, the OP asked for our thoughts about tattoos, and I gave him (and others) mine.  I find it ironic you would use the words “physical perfection” as if almost making a tacit admission that tattoos somehow block that.  I certainly don’t seek out “physical perfection,” but I do pass on guys with tattoos constituting a large part of their “display advertising.”
 

If you love tattoos, great!  I personally have a strong distaste for them and refrain from hiring guys who make them such a prominent part of their bodies.  
 

I have tracked a number of young providers who don’t have tattoos, and the number of reviews they have is sky-high, and those reviews come from many different countries, so perhaps there’s a ton of us who are “out of touch,” and are willing to pay premium prices to get what we desire as difficult as it is to find now (which is precisely why they can command that higher hourly rate, which I submit just may be the root cause of your venom and anger).

[+ KensingtonHomo]

7 minutes ago, jusmeinbr said:

I have tracked a number of young providers who don’t have tattoos, and the number of reviews they have is sky-high, and those reviews come from many different countries, so perhaps there’s a ton of us who are “out of touch,” and are willing to pay premium prices to get what we desire as difficult as it is to find now (which is precisely why they can command that higher hourly rate, which I submit just may be the root cause of your venom and anger).

This entire paragraph is just confirmation bias. You follow some guys without tattoos and see they get good reviews but you have no control group, you have no way of discerning if their lack of tattoos is meaningful. I've already posted an actual study that shows you're in the minority, and that minority is growing as boomers die out and millennials and Gen Z make up more of the population. 

I'm not an escort so I don't know why you think I'd be angry or venomous about a minority of anonymous clients being opposed to them. Since most escorts have some tattoos it's more for me! 

[jusmeinbr]

1 hour ago, KensingtonHomo said:

This entire paragraph is just confirmation bias. You follow some guys without tattoos and see they get good reviews but you have no control group, you have no way of discerning if their lack of tattoos is meaningful. I've already posted an actual study that shows you're in the minority, and that minority is growing as boomers die out and millennials and Gen Z make up more of the population. 

I'm not an escort so I don't know why you think I'd be angry or venomous about a minority of anonymous clients being opposed to them. Since most escorts have some tattoos it's more for me! 

I never said we may not be the minority (hence having to pay more), and my whole focus has been the New Orleans market for the 20 years I’ve hired, and I think I know it pretty well, but don’t take my word:

 

Go to the 6:00 mark of this New Orleans escort’s video, 

 and you’ll hear him say, “The going rate in New Orleans is $200/hour.”

He is spot-on (trust me, I know), but I only hire now that rare provider who comes along who fits what I really seek and, as I said, it’s rare to find, but that’s why I was more than happy to pay double that $200 “going rate” (his base rate was $300/hour, but I happily added a $100 tip each time because he was that good in my eyes).

 

I provide the young man’s video above only to prove my point about the price differential.  I have never met with Skyler.

 

The escort with whom I met six times (one hour each) earlier this year and was happy to pay the $400/hour I did was MZB:  

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Edited August 19, 2023 by jusmeinbr
Add link and correct typo.

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[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

This 2023 survey shows that many of the younger people who got inked regretted later in life when they were older and wiser.

Unlike a pair of socks or an old sweater, you can't just toss a tattoo away when you get bored with it.

 

SURVEY REVEALS 1 IN 4 AMERICANS REGRET AT LEAST 1 TATTOO

 

Americans’ Tattoo Preferences and Regrets Data Study 2023

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Advanced Dermatology’s latest report explores Americans’ opinions on tattoos and tattoo regret and removal in 2023.

Buyer's Remorse

Tattoos are not always a lifelong love affair: 1 in 4 Americans admit to regretting at least one of their tattoos. The types of tattoos people regret most include lettering/script tattoos, symbol tattoos, names, animal designs, and tribal tattoos.

Regret is a feeling that can settle in at various points in time after getting a tattoo. Interestingly, 51% of respondents reported their regret did not fully sink in until two or more years had passed since getting the tattoo. However, for others, regret was immediate, with 18% experiencing it just a few days after getting the tattoo, 16% felt regret within one week to three months, and 15% realized their regret within six months to one year. It may not come as a surprise that 48% say the tattoo they regret the most is one they got spontaneously.

 

Tattoo Removal

With tattoo removal becoming an increasingly popular option for those looking to get rid of their ink, nearly 1 in 4 (23%) Americans plan to have tattoos removed in the future. In fact, 51% plan to have one tattoo removed.

BoZo

 

Edited August 19, 2023 by BOZO T CLOWN

[SometimesBi]

On 8/9/2023 at 12:30 PM, ICTJOCK said:

So there probably isn't any real answer to this question.   I have had clients talk about "too many tats",  "not enough" and what they find just right on a provider.    I get clients that make recommendations.     Some tell me too much is a total turn off.     If you are a provider,  what do you hear from your cleints and do they like yours?    Do clients even expect tats on escorts?     If you are a client,  what do you like.    Just curious.

Getting back on topic...

I don't have tattoos, and I would never get any myself. 

And yet, I find myself enjoying seeing the art on other guys. So much so, that when I'm shopping for a pro, the presence of a few tats can be the tipping point if I can't otherwise decide between two providers. 

But I agree 100% with others ... none on the face. 

[marylander1940]

5 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Care to cite statistics or studies that show "the vast majority of people like or are unfazed by tattoos"?
Based solely on the posts in this thread, your statement is patently false.

And what you consider to be "body art", many, if not most, others consider to be body graffiti.

It's fine that you can look at your body ink and claim it is "beautiful". You should be equally open to the opinions of others like Bozo and the majority of posters on this thread who have a different take on tattoos.
Your lashing out with personal attacks doesn't make your opinion any more valid than mine or others'. 

BoZo...   
proudly un-inked

I think your opposition to tattoos is based on your faith, obviously not all of your personal choices are based on what's recommended in it. 

desecration?!

Edited August 19, 2023 by marylander1940

[+ KensingtonHomo]

6 hours ago, jusmeinbr said:

The escort with whom I met six times (one hour each) earlier this year and was happy to pay the $400/hour I did was MZB

He does nothing for me. He couldn’t pay me to be massaged by him. That you choose to pay more for a masseur without tattoos is fine. People pay more for youth, looks, musculature, etc. maybe it’s the NYC market but there are plenty of providers who don’t have tattoos. 
 

Why is it so hard for people in here to not “yuck other people’s yum?” If you don’t like tattoos, don’t get any and don’t hire guys who have them. 
 

What you do not have to do is post on here about how tattoos show that people are desecrating their bodies, showing they’re low class or any other moral or ethical judgment. 

[jusmeinbr]

15 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said:

He does nothing for me. He couldn’t pay me to be massaged by him. That you choose to pay more for a masseur without tattoos is fine. People pay more for youth, looks, musculature, etc. maybe it’s the NYC market but there are plenty of providers who don’t have tattoos. 
 

Why is it so hard for people in here to not “yuck other people’s yum?” If you don’t like tattoos, don’t get any and don’t hire guys who have them. 
 

What you do not have to do is post on here about how tattoos show that people are desecrating their bodies, showing they’re low class or any other moral or ethical judgment. 

What you need to do is pay attention to who posts what!!  Show me the first post I made saying anything remotely close to what you have FALSELY accused me of posting!

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

3 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

I think your opposition to tattoos is based on your faith, obviously not all of your personal choices are based on what's recommended in it. 

desecration?!

Thank you for the psychoanalysis, Dr. Phil.

Is that free or should Bozo expect a bill in the mail?

BoZo

23 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said:

What you do not have to do is post on here about how tattoos show that people are desecrating their bodies, showing they’re low class or any other moral or ethical judgment. 

Why is it so hard for you to understand that many of us find the thought of permanently applying ink to human skin to be an abhorrent act?  You feel differently, and I respect that. I don't attempt to mock or denigrate your opinion.
And to see an otherwise well-built, handsome young man ink up his body with multi-colored strange designs, I find to be distracting at best, destructive at worst.
FOR ME body ink is a non-starter when I am hiring.

Is Bozo being judgmental? Of course. The OP was asking our opinions about tattoos. 
It is hard not to be judgmental when I am asked to make a judgment.

BoZo

 

Edited August 19, 2023 by BOZO T CLOWN