Quincy_7 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Say you wanted to take an escort off the market and have him be your personal boytoy. What would be an appropriate monthly stipend for this arrangement? What are the additional costs besides the monthly stipend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2play Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I would say north of $150,000 per year, tax free, plus a car allowance, plus guaranteed 4 annual vacations, one per season, to mutually agreed destinations. Plus an expense allowance for clothing, personal appearance care but excluding any cosmetic surgery (if they need that forget it and move on to the next candidate), plus contributions to an IRA in his name. As an alternative, look up what Aristotle Onassis gave to Jackie Kennedy when he married her. coriolis888, + Axiom2001, + BenjaminNicholas and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2play Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Oh, I forgot gym membership, any other club memberships which you may also have so you can eg. golf together, play tennis etc. + augustus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ ThroatCummer Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 You know the saying: "If you have to ask the price....." This equation is so complex it and variable down to the two individuals involved, you can't really put a price on it. Let's start with: Are you looking for a full-time "employee" ?? Danny-Darko, MscleLovr, MikeBiDude and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MscleLovr Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, ThroatCummer said: down to the two individuals involved, you can't really put a price on it So true. But I can make a stab at what it will cost the OP. I’m old now but years ago, I had boytoys: several but only one at a time. The biggest difference in cost is whether he lives with you or not. (And if he doesn’t, how will you know that he’s stopped working with others?) IME the stipend might run as little as $2000 a month assuming you pick up all the bills (groceries, restaurants, theatre, concerts, travel, gym membership, clothing, iPhone, weekend trips, overseas vacations etc). The total costs overall for me might have run as high as $10-12000 a month. It’s for the OP to decide what exclusivity he requires, how often he wants companionship etc and it’s a matter of negotiation between him and the working guy. FWIW I was always very open and direct (about what I enjoyed and expected from the young man) from the very start so that misunderstandings were avoided. Quincy_7 and cany10011 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Luv2play said: I would say north of $150,000 per year, tax free, plus a car allowance, plus guaranteed 4 annual vacations, one per season, to mutually agreed destinations. Plus an expense allowance for clothing, personal appearance care but excluding any cosmetic surgery (if they need that forget it and move on to the next candidate), plus contributions to an IRA in his name. As an alternative, look up what Aristotle Onassis gave to Jackie Kennedy when he married her. That's a pretty outrageous sum, and I doubt anyone gets earnings like that, other than an extraordinarily handsome fitness model or pro athlete under the wing of a sheik/prince or CEO. And, as a point of fact, if the "earnings" are "tax-free," then the person is ineligible for an IRA (which maxes out at $6500 per year anyway, and would be a drop in the bucket compared to the "$150,000 per year"). That being said, if you think you can transfer $150,000 per year to someone and not have the IRS (or CRA, etc.) be aware, think again. @MscleLovr's assessment is probably more on point, though if you live in a country without government-funded insurance, the health, dental, and auto insurances and costs must be considered as well (though even Platinum coverage isn't much for someone who isn't earning anything). Edited July 15, 2023 by Unicorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2play Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) When I said tax free I meant what the boytoy would receive after he paid his taxes on the $150,000. Considering the average CEO of a fortune 500 company earns in excess of $10million, I don't think $300,000 (including stipend and perks) is out of line. Of course there are many others in the .01percent ranks other than CEOs such as trust fund heirs or small or medium sized business owners who enjoy similar incomes from their investments and enterprises. I also recognize that there are people who can enjoy the exclusive access to a boytoy for less than what I posited. But it would depend on the marketability of the young man and his physical and other attributes. A highly powered sugar daddy would likely want someone who can easily rub shoulders with others in the top echelons of society and the boytoy would of necessity have to exhibit good breeding and education to fit in easily in these surroundings. Edited July 14, 2023 by Luv2play BonVivant and + augustus 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, Luv2play said: ...Considering the average CEO of a fortune 500 company earns in excess of $10million, I don't think $300,000 (including stipend and perks) is out of line. Of course there are many others in the .01percent ranks other than CEOs such as trust fund heirs or small or medium sized business owners who enjoy similar incomes from their investments and enterprises... I doubt the OP earns $10 million a year (though there are some quite successful members here). It's probably extremely unusual for a small business owner to have anywhere near such an income. Since the vast majority of people earning $10 million (or even high 7-figures) a year aren't gay to begin with, the market for people willing and able to dish out hundreds of thousands per year is quite small. Yes, there are the Tom Daley/Dustin Lance Blacks of this world, but that's a pipe dream for most. The vast majority will have to "settle" for not having to worry about any expenses, plus enough money to have fun. How many David Geffens are out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DERRIK Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I suspect it’s a gradual process occasional provider loses housing / partner / dayjob / school client offers move in temporarily soon. One or the other feels taken advantage of (justified or not) splitsville coriolis888, + augustus and + Pensant 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blck37 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Quincy_7 said: Say you wanted to take an escort off the market and have him be your personal boytoy. What would be an appropriate monthly stipend for this arrangement? What are the additional costs besides the monthly Whats the amount you can spare without putting yourself in bakruptcy? That would be the answer. Now whether or not said amount is sufficient to get the guy that you aim for, that is a separate issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socurious Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I need a sugar daddy. Where can I fill out the applications? Archangel, thomas, + augustus and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ augustus Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 These situations always end badly. I'd say see other men for variety and save a bundle. BSR, marylander1940, Luv2play and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, augustus said: These situations always end badly. I'd say see other men for variety and save a bundle. Scott Thorson - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG Without a doubt! Someone will get dumped for another hotter, younger and more accommodating guy available and think he's owned something because of wasting his youth, getting accustomed to a certain lifestyle he can't afford on his own and later comparing his reality with his glorious past. Sad but true! Trouble in Paradise for Marc Jacobs and Jason Preston WWW.THECUT.COM We've never seen <a href="http://nymag.com/fashion/fashionshows/designers/bios/marcjacobs/">Marc Jacobs</a> and boyfriend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Quincy_7 said: Say you wanted to take an escort off the market and have him be your personal boytoy. What would be an appropriate monthly stipend for this arrangement? What are the additional costs besides the monthly stipend? Depends on many things... Cohabitation and its conditions. Does monogamish goes both ways? Cash allowance or just lifestyle. Can he save money for the future? Marriage now that is possible. Is the boy in the will and can he be removed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, augustus said: These situations always end badly. I'd say see other men for variety and save a bundle. Well, everyone dies eventually, but long-term happiness is also possible. Look at Tom Daley and DLB. My first arrangement lasted over 13 years, and my current beau and I have been together for well over 2 years. If you prefer variety, that's great. Some people are capable of LTR's. If so, avoid the Elizabeth Taylors of this world. Edited July 14, 2023 by Unicorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, Unicorn said: Well, everyone dies eventually, but long-term happiness is also possible. Look at Tom Daley and DLB. My first arrangement lasted over 13 years, and my current beau and I have have together for well over 2 years. If you prefer variety, that's great. Some people are capable of LTR's. If so, avoid the Elizabeth Taylors of this world. I thought you were going to bring up the "bordello" thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Coolwave35 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) My last live in one got $1,250 a week and all expenses paid for. Additionally, he had a full time work from home job. It lasted 18 weeks and was really fun while it lasted but we both outgrew the relationship. My first one wasn’t a live in. He made $68,000 a year and I bought him a gym to run. That one lasted until he died. In between those, they varied greatly. I’ll never do another live in. That was a rebound summer fling after my divorce. Edited July 15, 2023 by Coolwave35 pubic_assistance and 56harrisond 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 21 minutes ago, Coolwave35 said: ...That one lasted until he died... Congratulations! That certainly contradicts the prediction that "these things always end up badly." Did you wear him out? 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Coolwave35 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Unicorn said: Congratulations! That certainly contradicts the prediction that "these things always end up badly." Did you wear him out? 😄 I wish. The truth was that he was living a life he hadn’t quite earned entirely by himself and the success messed him up and he didn’t survive it sadly. It was beautiful and tragic and I miss him every day, and learned A LOT about how money sometimes overwhelms people that may have mental health issues. Edited July 15, 2023 by Coolwave35 Jamie21, musclestuduws, + The Big Guy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newdad Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, Coolwave35 said: I wish. The truth was that he was living a life he hadn’t quite earned entirely by himself and the success messed him up and he didn’t survive it sadly. It was beautiful and tragic and I miss him every day, and learned A LOT about how money sometimes overwhelms people that may have mental health issues. How long were you two together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Coolwave35 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, newdad said: How long were you two together? 3 years. He was from 23 - 26. I was from 30-33. Edited July 15, 2023 by Coolwave35 Quincy_7 and musclestuduws 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Hagen Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) If you have something to offer instead of or in addition to money, it can be a partnership. Don Bachardy was "18" when he and Isherwood (40?) met up, and were together decades until Christopher died. Isherwood was never "rich", but was smart and interesting, to say the least, had enough money, a fucking awesome house in the end, and he and the AMAZINGLY beautiful Bachardy made a life together. Digression: Still kick myself for not posing for Bachardy. Edited July 17, 2023 by Rod Hagen musclestuduws, thomas and Luv2play 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) Maybe one day they'll make a movie of our marvelous Hollywood life! 😅 Edited July 17, 2023 by Unicorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Hagen Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Unicorn said: Maybe one day they'll make a movie of our marvelous Hollywood life! 😅 I was there for the opening night screening of the movie and was able to gush to Don and the guy who directed it. keefer and musclestuduws 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSR Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 On 7/14/2023 at 9:16 AM, ThroatCummer said: You know the saying: "If you have to ask the price....." This equation is so complex it and variable down to the two individuals involved, you can't really put a price on it. Let's start with: Are you looking for a full-time "employee" ?? To me, this is like asking how much does it cost to have a car. You can buy a 5yo Toyota Prius, or you can buy a paint-still-wet Lambo. One time at Popeye's, I was able to eavesdrop on the conversation between a mid-50s guy and his 19-20yo companion. Imagine my amusement once I figured out they were discussing a possible sugar arrangement. It took all the self-restraint I could muster to refrain from jumping in and screaming to the kid, "Sugardaddy's treating you to Popeye's?! RUN!!!" + tassojunior, + DERRIK, musclestuduws and 8 others 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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