+ José Soplanucas Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 I was nicely surprised by this article published in Metro Weekly. I fondly agree with the author: a call for civil disobedience in Homophobic America. Cancelling LGBTQ Prides Spits on the Spirit of Stonewall WWW.METROWEEKLY.COM We must push back, harder, stronger, together, and not let up. Because who can be proud of a community... + BOZO T CLOWN, BSR, + augustus and 3 others 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ FrankR Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, José Soplanucas said: I was nicely surprised by this article published in Metro Weekly. I fondly agree with the author: a call for civil disobedience in Homophobic America. Cancelling LGBTQ Prides Spits on the Spirit of Stonewall WWW.METROWEEKLY.COM We must push back, harder, stronger, together, and not let up. Because who can be proud of a community... And the haters will comment negatively in 3…2…1… KeepItReal, + José Soplanucas and marylander1940 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Ugh. I'm so tired of every disenfranchised group calling for "civil disobedience". At this point, everyone has grown deaf to this sort of protesting. Who DOESN'T protest today ? The Chinese are out protesting, the Muslims are out protesting. You have women's rights / gay rights / trans rights / labor rights / immigrant rights / abortion rights ...all groups using the same tired strategy. You want influence - run for office instead of holding signs and yelling slogans. + nycman, + BOZO T CLOWN and + augustus 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Lucky Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Isn't it nice to see gay people standing up for themselves? Gays are under increasing attacks from the right. Let's not get rolled over. Danny-Darko, pubic_assistance, KeepItReal and 5 others 1 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ José Soplanucas Posted June 18, 2023 Author Share Posted June 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, FrankR said: And the haters will comment negatively in 3…2…1… LOL. I love how you drop the bait, and they start dropping their masks. + Italiano and + Lucky 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBiDude Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 37 minutes ago, José Soplanucas said: LOL. I love how you drop the bait, and they start dropping their masks. 3…2….1… Until this thread goes political. Please consider this an early warning. Danny-Darko, + José Soplanucas, mike carey and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ José Soplanucas Posted June 18, 2023 Author Share Posted June 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, MikeBiDude said: 3…2….1… Until this thread goes political. Please consider this an early warning. I will try to be a good (queer) boy. + Lucky and MikeBiDude 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: ...Who DOESN'T protest today ?... Without protests, nothing happens, and bad behavior continues. We would still have bar raids were it not for Stonewall, etc. There would be even more George Floyd-like deaths. Women wouldn't have the right to vote. Obviously, not everyone can successfully run for public office--even if one were to assume that this an efficient way to effect change (which it definitely is not). There's a reason that the right to protest is a cornerstone of democracy and a free society. Those who don't like public protests should spend some time living in the Russian Federation, the Islamic Republic of Iran, or the DPRK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ José Soplanucas Posted June 18, 2023 Author Share Posted June 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Unicorn said: Without protests, nothing happens, and bad behavior continues. We would still have bar raids were it not for Stonewall, etc. There would be even more George Floyd-like deaths. Women wouldn't have the right to vote. Obviously, not everyone can successfully run for public office--even if one were to assume that this an efficient way to effect change (which it definitely is not). There's a reason that the right to protest is a cornerstone of democracy and a free society. Those who don't like public protests should spend some time living in the Russian Federation, the Islamic Republic of Iran, or the DPRK. The issue is only when the protesters are queer or People of Color. I do not want to ignore the admins' warning, so I do not want to bring to the table a recent "protest" widely celebrated by the Troglodytes here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Unicorn said: We would still have bar raids were it not for Stonewall, etc. I didn't say you should not have HAD them. I am saying going forward it's falling on deaf ears. The continuous pot-banging from EVERY group these days is tiresome and therefore losing its ability to get attention. Everyone is bored with the same old protest marches. Times for new and better strategies. Edited June 18, 2023 by pubic_assistance grammar + BOZO T CLOWN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Lucky Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: I didn't say you should not have HAD them. I am saying going forward it's falling on deaf ears. The continuous pot-banging from EVERY group these days is tiresome and therefore losing its ability to get attention. Everyone is bored with the same old protest marches. Times for new and better strategies. It's tiresome to you but I doubt that you participated in many, if any protests. The nice thing about being bisexual is that you can cross back over the line to being straight when trouble comes. Not saying that you do that, but it is available to you and you seem to have such trouble with gay activism. + BOZO T CLOWN, mike carey and + José Soplanucas 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: ...The continuous pot-banging from EVERY group these days is tiresome... You're right--the peasants are revolting! 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 6 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Ugh. I'm so tired of every disenfranchised group calling for "civil disobedience". At this point, everyone has grown deaf to this sort of protesting. Who DOESN'T protest today ? The Chinese are out protesting, the Muslims are out protesting. You have women's rights / gay rights / trans rights / labor rights / immigrant rights / abortion rights ...all groups using the same tired strategy. You want influence - run for office instead of holding signs and yelling slogans. you can do both, right? I think you're stuck decades ago. Grassroots movements with social media could reach successful! Civil disobedience? The American Revolution started that way, we refused to pay taxes without representation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ augustus Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) When it’s forced on anyone, it’s no longer about inclusion. Tolerance is all that is reasonable. Their Pride Cometh to A Fall. Edited June 18, 2023 by augustus + BOZO T CLOWN and Danny-Darko 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, augustus said: When it’s forced on anyone, it’s no longer about inclusion. Tolerance is all that is reasonable. Their Pride Cometh to A Fall. Marriage equality is forced to anyone? If they dislike it they could just look aside, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ augustus Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 An exercise in narcissism. marylander1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, José Soplanucas said: I was nicely surprised by this article published in Metro Weekly. I fondly agree with the author: a call for civil disobedience in Homophobic America. Cancelling LGBTQ Prides Spits on the Spirit of Stonewall WWW.METROWEEKLY.COM We must push back, harder, stronger, together, and not let up. Because who can be proud of a community... Disobedience? I take my money where is wanted and boycott those who prefer not to have it, is that enough civil disobedience? BTW, there was a previous thread on a similar subject, the main thing is this video. Edited June 18, 2023 by marylander1940 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ augustus Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: Marriage equality is forced to anyone? Nothing to do with marriage equality or being gay. There wouldn't be such a backlash if they would leave children alone. Edited June 18, 2023 by augustus marylander1940, pubic_assistance, Danny-Darko and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, augustus said: Nothing to do with marriage equality. There wouldn't be such a backlash if they would leave children alone. We leave the children alone! We're not groomers, tell your the other members of your cult to stop calling us "groomers"! Edited June 18, 2023 by marylander1940 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ robear Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, augustus said: Nothing to do with marriage equality or being gay. There wouldn't be such a backlash if they would leave children alone. Who is "they" and in precisely what way are any children being harmed by gay activism? + José Soplanucas, mike carey and + FrankR 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ augustus Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) I and many others supported equal rights, supported same sex marriage, supported the issues of adoption, supported through don't ask don't tell. Yet some show their gratitude by targeting our youth and children and creating division. Separating the child from the parent. Medical experiments on minors. It is simply horrible. Just look at the thousands of anti-pride protestors at the LA Dodgers game. This has never happened before in modern times! The backlash is going to be tremendous. Edited June 18, 2023 by augustus + BOZO T CLOWN, pubic_assistance and Danny-Darko 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavitv Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Pride is political. it’s a nice article. Separating children from their parents? What in the Tucker? + José Soplanucas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ robear Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, augustus said: Yet some show their gratitude by targeting our youth and children and creating division. Separating the child from the parent. Medical experiments on minors. Again, what do your words even mean? WHO is targeting "OUR" youth (and whose "youth") and children, how "creating division." When and where in this context are children being separated from parents. And WHAT "medical experiments"? You're just a bomb-tosser throwing words around without meaning. + José Soplanucas, mike carey, + Charlie and 3 others 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ José Soplanucas Posted June 18, 2023 Author Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: Disobedience? I take my money where is wanted and boycott those who prefer not to have it, is that enough civil disobedience? BTW, there was a previous thread on a similar subject, the main thing is this video. The difference is that the article does not stop at remembering the Stonewall riots. History in the report is the fundament to question gay conformism and advocate for recovering the original meaning of Stonewall. It also reminds privileged homosexuals that we owe much of our rights and comfortable position to the braveness of drags, trans, and hustlers, the same ones being looked down on and discriminated against now. Edited June 18, 2023 by José Soplanucas marylander1940, mike carey and + Charlie 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ José Soplanucas Posted June 18, 2023 Author Share Posted June 18, 2023 37 minutes ago, augustus said: When it’s forced on anyone, it’s no longer about inclusion. Tolerance is all that is reasonable. Their Pride Cometh to A Fall. Bull shit. With guys like you, we would still have slavery. Danny-Darko, pubic_assistance, mike carey and 3 others 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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