Providers moving appointment times

[Guest leftbench23]

Is it just me or are providers taking liberties in moving confirmed appointment times later by 30-60 minutes? I'm not talking about a few extra minutes to get ready, especially when he is bottoming.

My most recent exchange was with a provider where I made an appointment more than 24 hours in advance for 6-8pm, but he texted at 545pm asking if we could meet at 7pm since he was just getting out of the gym. 

Is this socially acceptable now or am I just old fashion where you show up on time?

[Trick]

I’ve gotten this several times.  The gym excuse has often been used, sometimes dinner.  At times I’ve even been made to wait more than 15-30 minutes outside the hotel.  I just assume the appointment before me may have gotten overtime.

As a bottom I jokingly say, in my mind, “Hurry up, poop is gonna get to my lower colon soon”

[MikeBiDude]

“I’m on my way but I’m going to stop and get something to eat…I haven’t eaten all day”

I’ve gotten that one many a time. And the “gym” one too.😖

[+ DrownedBoy]

I wrote a thread on my personal experiences here in Ask a Provider.

TLDR:

As a client, you have to be firm, and willing to cancel a session or cut off a provider, to make sure they arrive on time.

As for providers who arrive on time - that's how you tell who the professionals are.

 

EDIT: At the risk of sounding like an old curmudgeon, I'd add that I see this pattern most often with younger providers. Must be a side effect from the whole "social promotion" trends in public high schools - as long as you show up, you graduate.

Edited October 11, 2022 by DrownedBoy

[+ ThroatCummer]

Hey, if you're totally jacked and your gym session is running really late -- and you're heading over to me right after -- I am NOT going to complain. Keep lifting bro. 😈 🤤 

That said some people are just chronically late in all aspects of their life. I tend to book late in the day and early evenings, and typically don't have anything to do after, so no sweat off my back as long as it is within reason and we're communicating (e.g., don't just show up late without warning). As a client who is booking, if I had a definite end time, I might offer that up in the conversation before we even meet to set expectations. Just something I have learned from years in business.  

I once booked with MuscleVIP in NYC who confirmed that morning (around say 8-9 am), but went radio silent and texted a solid hour after we were supposed to meet (7 pm) that he was running late and he was still at his house starting to get ready. No actual reason was offered up to explain.

As hot as he is, I politely said sorry you missed our time -- even though I had zero other plans that evening and had all the time in the world. It was a simple sign of respect that wasn't shown. Sad, because every time I see his picture, I kind of regret that decision. But my time is also worth money and it's a two way street.  

Edited October 12, 2022 by ThroatCummer

[Cliff]

4 minutes ago, ThroatCummer said:

Hey, if you're totally jacked and your gym session is running really late -- and you're heading over to me right after -- I am NOT going to complain. Keep lifting bro. 😈 🤤 

That said some people are just chronically late in all aspects of their life. I tend to book late in the day and early evenings, and typically don't have anything to do after, so no sweat off my back as long as it is within reason and we're communicating (e.g., don't just show up late without warning). As a client who is booking, if I had a definite end time, I might offer that up in the conversation before we even meet to set expectations. Just something I have learned from years in business.  

I once booked with MuscleVIP in NYC who confirmed that morning, but went radio silent and texted an hour after we were supposed to meet he was running late and still at his house starting to get ready. As hot as he is, I politely said sorry you missed our time -- even though I had zero other plans that evening and had all the time in the world. It was a simple sign of respect that wasn't shown. Sad, because every time I see his picture, I kind of regret that decision. But my time is also worth money and it's a two way street.  

That has always been MuscleVIP’s MO. He’s hot AF but runs on a timetable unrecognizable to most humans. I saw him 3 times - but I had booked him SIX times. Three strikes and he was out, for me. Don’t regret it, TC. There are other “VIPs” in Manhattan. Lots of ‘em. 😉

[Spursy]

I have some tolerance for a guy being up to an hour late if there's communication in advance that he's running behind--and I don't mean 5 minutes before the agreed upon time.  If he's going to be a little late, fine.  But don't make me sit around unable to make use of the time because I have no idea when we're starting.  Obviously, emergencies or the unexpected can happen.  But that's not what we're talking about here.

What has become a dealbreaker for me is the same-day request to reschedule for a totally different time--say, from that evening to the next morning.  My erstwhile regular did this to me two or three times.  The last time he did it (and the reason he's an erstwhile regular, LOL), he was upfront that it was because someone else wanted to see him the evening I had booked with him and he wanted to try to see both of us by moving me to the next morning.  (As it turned out, the other potential client bailed on him, so trying to move one to add another produced a result of zero.)

[acks01]

I'm younger and IMO it's just one of the more common things that happens, even socially. I personally don't like last minute changes but I can understand that sometimes things come up. Someone doing a change very last minute might just mean I cancel though if I feel like they don't respect my time.

At the end of the day, you can't change other people. You can only change how you deal with them.

[DMICS]

1 hour ago, ThroatCummer said:

Hey, if you're totally jacked and your gym session is running really late -- and you're heading over to me right after -- I am NOT going to complain. Keep lifting bro. 😈 🤤 

That said some people are just chronically late in all aspects of their life. I tend to book late in the day and early evenings, and typically don't have anything to do after, so no sweat off my back as long as it is within reason and we're communicating (e.g., don't just show up late without warning). As a client who is booking, if I had a definite end time, I might offer that up in the conversation before we even meet to set expectations. Just something I have learned from years in business.  

I once booked with MuscleVIP in NYC who confirmed that morning (around say 8-9 am), but went radio silent and texted a solid hour after we were supposed to meet (7 pm) that he was running late and he was still at his house starting to get ready. No actual reason was offered up to explain.

As hot as he is, I politely said sorry you missed our time -- even though I had zero other plans that evening and had all the time in the world. It was a simple sign of respect that wasn't shown. Sad, because every time I see his picture, I kind of regret that decision. But my time is also worth money and it's a two way street.  

Didn't know this was a "thing" with VIP. I've seen him once, but that was after a reschedule. He hit me after our intended time slot that he was running late, so I moved on and made plans with friends. I was already out the door by time he messaged.

He did make it up the following day though.

In my experience I can only think if one other time a popular provider either pushed an appointment back or early. Typically they're always on time. 

 

[+ nycman]

Yes, it is becoming extraordinarily common. 

On a recent trip, 3 different provides had confirmed more than 24 hours in advance. Each waited until 5 minutes before the appointment to tell me that they were "running a little late" and would be over an hour late.

All three got axed immediately and lost out on meeting a great client. 

Unfortunate, but so be it. 

[tennisjock]

My time is very valuable and this irks me to no end when providers text while I am parking and say hey I am still cross town see you in a hour. I politely but firmly state I can’t wait an hour for you so we can try this again sometime .. vague I know …. What’s worse is waiting in some hotel lobby or out on the street for a good 20-30 min after it’s been confirmed when u are

I tell them i leave at 20 min and stick to it . Here in Southern California there are quite a few guys to choose from so I just move down the list.

One European escort Steven Draker replied when I told him I was parking at his hotel that he is just waiting for breakfast in the dining room and he needs a good 1-1.5 hrs to meet me ….. this is on top of confirming the Nite before and even that morning when i was an hour away as pre arranged .   I am thinking he is gonna eat right before he bottoms and have all that coffee? Thank you no. I said sorry it didn’t work out and never spoke to him again and I was seeing him regularly Thru the years every time he hit Los Angeles or San Francisco etc so a good dozen appts we had had 

Edited October 12, 2022 by tennisjock

[Guest davebk]

Had arranged a meet with a “flexible time” in the evening on a set day. That afternoon I said I was flexible and what time. At 7pm, he says “I can be there by 8.”  I say great. He says “leaving soon.”  At 8:40, in inquire. No reply. At 9:40pm he replies “fell asleep, but I can be there in 30 minutes.”  
 

I said yes. I was still charged up and wanted it, and didn’t want to be pissy if I was going to meet him. To his credit, he stayed almost 2 hours.  But there was definitely no sense of contrition on his part for the tardiness. 

[Jostar]

I had that happened to me too. When I had to reschedule my appointment 3 times to see Maxlorde. Just to fit his need. When it was finally the time to see him no reply what so ever. I get a hour late text saying he was at the gym and he wanted to see if I was available the next day. I told him nope. Totally not professional 

[GLEE]

I'll just say some of these "changes" have made me go from being upset to confused. For example, at first I was annoyed with my Uber/Lyft drivers speak on the phone with others without acknowledging to me first. I swear there were multiple times their staff members telling me that it is unacceptable. But such situations have grown exponentially over the years to an extent that I started questioning myself...

Back to the thread, as time goes on, I am more leaning towards only meeting with the gents I've met before who respect both of our time. If, for any reason, I'd like to have decent amount of communication beforehand just to make sure we are both aware of the time we schedule to meet. If anything happens, I accept most of notices beforehand should the providers are going to be late. Some people out there suggest on their RM ad something like, "no time wasters," "let's not waste both of our time..." Those are absolutely correct. But our time should be respected as well. It's just a shame that we as clients don't necessarily have a platform like RM to claim we don't like our time be wasted just because you come out of the gym late. 

[pubic_assistance]

22 hours ago, leftbench23 said:

Is this socially acceptable now or am I just old fashion where you show up on time?

Being on-time is sooo last century. 😆 Millennials never show up to anything on time. ( Not sure how old your "date" was...but if he's under 30, this kind of behavior is the new normal )

[tennisjock]

10 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Being on-time is sooo last century. 😆 Millennials never show up to anything on time. ( Not sure how old your "date" was...but if he's under 30, this kind of behavior is the new normal )

What i do with the youngins for a business event or dinner or meeting I have false times 1-2 hrs earlier than the event was set for and when they catch on , i change it to an hour early or even 30 min early and if they are working with me I have zero patience for people being late in the business world .. without calling etc as I’m caught in traffic, got Covid on the way over, wreck on the freeway etc at least they are re aware they will be late and keeping us posted. 

[pubic_assistance]

4 minutes ago, tennisjock said:

I have zero patience for people being late in the business world

I gave up.

Millennials think you're insane for expecting them to show up at 6:00 pm when you say 6:00 pm.  When you question them, their answer is "nobody does that". ( In their age group..that may be true ). Very sad.

I was always the guy who got to every meeting 10 minutes early because I always left extra time to get there.

 

[guru68]

[Becket]

well....."Hit the road, Jacked."

sorry

[+ Pensant]

It’s getting very difficult to give someone $500 these days! Wait til the recession hits.

Edited October 12, 2022 by Pensant

[+ DrownedBoy]

20 minutes ago, Pensant said:

It’s getting very difficult to give someone $500 these days! Wait til the recession hits.

Yup. The newer, younger escorts (even those new to RM without a single review to their name) are asking too much. A recession will give them the course in economics they need. Like someone above said, I also live in an area with pages of escorts who want my money...and in the past month or so, there were even more.

Since the so-called "business world" came up, I should also mention that with the coming recession, CEOs and other executives have announced that the first candidates for layoffs will be the people who refuse to come to the office, or don't get there enough or in a timely manner. An entire generation is going to have to grow up quickly and drop their bad habits.

[+ Pensant]

Although I dread recessions, the economy needs an enema.

[pubic_assistance]

1 hour ago, Pensant said:

It’s getting very difficult to give someone $500 these days! Wait til the recession hits.

You're in a recession.

Maybe you meant wait until the DEPRESSION ?

 

Edited October 13, 2022 by pubic_assistance

[guru68]

4 hours ago, Pensant said:

It’s getting very difficult to give someone $500 these days! Wait til the recession hits.

Stop, I feel like I should be deciding whether to keep my 401k on the ventilator or not.

[+ ThroatCummer]

5 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

CEOs and other executives have announced that the first candidates for layoffs will be the people who refuse to come to the office, or don't get there enough or in a timely manner. An entire generation is going to have to grow up quickly and drop their bad habits.

Without going into too much detail, I have eliminated an entire department over this.

You live 30 minutes from our office but refuse to come in ever again? .. and you still want that $180k salary? Nah, it don't work that way.

Historically, Asia and India outsourcing was a fucking train wreck because quality was never there. But now there's an epic crap ton of countries and people with the same skills that will do your job for a fraction of the price. I can get someone in South Africa, Brazil, or Romania to replace you in ten seconds. Oh, and there's a hundred million of them lined up applying.

Welcome to globalization.

My highest performer (our Chief Compliance Officer) can do her job from the Lido deck of a cruise ship and never come into the office ever again, and I won't give a fuck. Because she's a master at her work and she gets shit done. 

But now, when we need a new person, our universe of hiring is the entire planet. It's going to be a really hard lesson for the tech skilled workforce in the USA to learn over the next few years. No company is going to pay $180k for a software engineer that wants to sit at home down the street from the actual office in Manhattan. I need you in the office to be creative because there's value in that. If you don't want to do that, then you're going to be replaced by someone in Lebanon or Croatia.   

WOAH. Need to put down the keyboard.

Wait, what were we talking about? Open markets and how they influence escort prices? 'Night  

Edited October 13, 2022 by ThroatCummer