pubic_assistance Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 26 minutes ago, samhexum said: Somewhere your friends are posting about their amigo who annoyingly always shows up exactly when he says he will. Totally. Being on time is equivalent to Nazism according to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Lucky Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 I like being on time and appreciate others who do as well. pubic_assistance and + glutes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 I thought this was all settled last year and we were told we'd never have to change time again, clearly I missed a piece of news!! Really, who killed it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ azdr0710 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, spider said: I thought this was all settled last year and we were told we'd never have to change time again, clearly I missed a piece of news!! Really, who killed it? https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3571007-permanent-daylight-saving-time-hits-brick-wall-in-house/ Edited March 11, 2023 by azdr0710 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 For people with children ( like me ) we are opposed to having our kids head out for school in the pitch black of night. Changing the clock means the mornings are in daylight and the sun goes down after the kids are home. Without changing the clocks it is VERY dark in the Northern Hemisphere when it's time to leave for classes. + Vegas_Millennial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ azdr0710 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 an article on the health results of changing the clocks..... https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/03/11/1162345477/changing-our-clocks-is-a-health-hazard-just-ask-a-sleep-doctor looks like Rubio has re-introduced the bipartisan bill..... https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/fe0d7211-57e1-4b89-90dd-0789768e41dc/1055A4494B96C496B17D26F68F852E1C.sunshine-protection-act-of-2023.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, azdr0710 said: looks like Rubio has re-introduced the bipartisan bill..... https://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/fe0d7211-57e1-4b89-90dd-0789768e41dc/1055A4494B96C496B17D26F68F852E1C.sunshine-protection-act-of-2023.pdf I don't doubt that Floridians are less concerned about dark mornings than Northerners. As there is an earlier sunrise in Florida than there is in New York State. I will hold my comments about Rubio in general, since the political forum is closed for the season. Edited March 11, 2023 by pubic_assistance + Vegas_Millennial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeezifonly Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 For most of my career I worked weekends, so the time change 2x/yr was crucial to showing up at the right time Sunday. Most of this was also without a device (smartphone) for verification. Being retired, the actual time change has less power to jack me up. I’m weary of the arguments about it every year. I don’t give a damn if kids have to go to school in the dark - first world problems. Plenty of people go to work in the dark, come home in the dark. Start school later. Too much sun in the morning? Buy shades. I hope we can just pick one and make it permanent. It’s silly. + azdr0710 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boink Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 The amount of darkness in the morning or lightness in the evening has a lot to do with how far east or west you are within your time zone. For example, in Pittsburgh it can stay light past 9 pm on a nice summer night, while in NYC it's dark by 8:30 pm. Both in the eastern time zone. + Charlie and + azdr0710 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ azdr0710 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) playing around with a sunset/sunrise website, I find that sunset in somewhat-northerly Spokane, WA, fairly near the east end of the Pacific time zone, is at a surprising 3:58pm PST in mid-December!!........obviously, it'd be an hour later with the proposed year-round DST (and so would sunrise for all those kids in the dark!)......nearly due-south in Blythe, CA, also near the east end of the Pacific time zone, sunset is about 35 minutes later on the same day.......just across the Colorado River in Arizona (MST zone), sunset is obviously a more-comfortable hour layer (5:34pm MST).... so, as also suggested upthread, your latitude and your position within a time zone greatly affect your sunset and sunrise times.......could be interesting to see how our representatives and senators vote on this new proposal based on their latitude and position within a time zone!!....... Edited March 12, 2023 by azdr0710 + Charlie and mike carey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeezifonly Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, azdr0710 said: …so, as also suggested upthread, your latitude and your position within a time zone greatly affect your sunset and sunrise times.......could be interesting to see how our representatives and senators vote on this new proposal based on their latitude and position within a time zone!!....... Perfect. Half of our legislature can’t read a calendar or a watch… + Charlie and + azdr0710 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 4 hours ago, jeezifonly said: I don’t give a damn if kids have to go to school in the dark Because you don't HAVE kids. Those of us who do actually care about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeezifonly Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 30 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: Because you don't HAVE kids. Those of us who do actually care about this. Yes, and I am only speaking for myself, just as all of do when posting. I pay sq/ft taxes for a family of five, which go to the great public schools in my city, which I do not burden with kids of my own. I don’t want to rob anyone of their say. We tell our representatives, I guess is how we do that. I just want the semi-annual debate settled one way or another. Some folks will be disappointed, sorry if that will include you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 5 hours ago, Boink said: The amount of darkness in the morning... Morning, as defined by my partner "something that happens before I wake up." 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 8 hours ago, jeezifonly said: Yes, and I am only speaking for myself, just as all of do when posting. I was raised in a way that community is as important as my own opinion ...so I forget that some people act in the most selfish way and don't give a damn about others. But correct. I respect your right to have your own opinion. Just giving perspective as to why MANY people are going to disagree with doing away with it. jeezifonly and + Vegas_Millennial 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samhexum Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 Greenland has decided to stay in DST permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 33 minutes ago, samhexum said: Greenland has decided to stay in DST permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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