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42 minutes ago, Midtownguy99 said:

I’ve heard this story of hiring a provider and paying him $600 for an overnight. That’s considered just a nice tip at that point. 

This is about time. Regardless of activity (wild night full of sex, drugs or simply a night of cuddling and kissing), this is still their time and they are entitled to charge as they see fit. 

Have you looked at female provider rates before? One provider has an overnight rate of $7,500 that my best friend has seen numerous times. And on top of that she receives luxury gifts and is wined and dined for an evening. 
 

Why are we as gay clients being so stingy and cheap when hiring a quality guy? 
 

With me personally, I’ve paid $3,000 for a 12 hour overnight with a fantastic provider on more than one occasion. When he arrived to the hotel room I had two gifts for him, wrapped and waiting for him on the bed, along with an envelope with his name on it with his requested donation inside. I made him feel happy, excited and comfortable so we both would be at ease for the rest of the evening.  
 

Now if you can’t afford that or don’t think a provider is worth that, then that’s perfectly ok. Move on and continue on your hunt for your next $42/hour hire. 

I agree with everything you're saying here.  Every. Single. Word.

That said, let's pause for a moment and look closely at the makeup- and past behaviors- of this board.  Guys like you are in shorter supply.  Guys who anonymously come here to criticize are a dime-a-dozen.  It's like cheap therapy for fellas who have social issues, a fragile ego and who take pedantry into performance art territory.  Some do this regularly even when they haven't hired in years.

I will say, it's entertaining as hell.  All of it.  This whole board.  It's never boring :)

There's a much larger contingent of clients out there who know nothing about this place, have enough disposable income to do as they please and treat their hires well.  I very much appreciate those guys or any guy who, like you, who shows genuine respect to the gents he sees. 

Sorry for going so off-topic.  Let's get back to butts...

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28 minutes ago, azdr0710 said:

though the forum is notorious for threads drifting off-topic, I'd like to see us get back to nice butts and get away from vaguely stuffy claims about "luxury service" and price/value ratios.......

Do you suggest another thread we can move our off-topic topic too? I actually think this deserves to be discussed more. 

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5 minutes ago, Midtownguy99 said:

Do you suggest another thread we can move our off-topic topic too? I actually think this deserves to be discussed more. 

if you think this never-resolvable topic deserves to be discussed more, create your own thread!........or use the search function to find the dozens of others threads trying to reconcile what providers request......hours of fun!

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2 hours ago, Midtownguy99 said:

I couldn’t agree more. This is considered a luxury service. You don’t go to Saks or Bergdorf’s with the expectation of finding a collared shirt for $25. Of course those do exist, but you’re better off shopping at Walmart. 

 

I couldn’t disagree more.  I would venture to say that a lot of people on these forums are not millionaires, or even multi-millionaires as I presume yourself to be.  We can’t afford to take escorts on mutli-thousand dollar shopping sprees after the session is over, or give them lavish gifts, or pay $3,000 for an overnight.  I know an escort this happens to every now and then by rich older men with money to burn, so to speak.  “Want that Rolex?” “Sure!”, replies my escort friend.  “Want some new clothes?”  “Why not?” replies my friend.  If money was no object, I’d do the same.

I remember hiring a Hispanic escort from the L.A. area years ago.  He said he was stopping escorting.  When I asked why, he said a client in Florida bought him a juice bar to run.  From what I see on his social media, it looks like he still runs it.  Must be nice!
 

I just got done with an overnight with an escort from New York who told me about his escapades in Chicago recently.  He met a client in luxurious penthouse for an hour.  They never had sex because the client was on drugs, but he was still given $2,000 for the trouble.  Most of us on here are not like that client, nor do we live in luxurious penthouses.  However, there are a few people I know personally on this site that hire:

• a retired high school teacher 

• a retired firefighter from the Bay Area 

• another retired guy who I can’t think of his job that had to stop hiring after prices got beyond $200 an hour mark

I would venture to say that a lot of us fall into these categories—myself included.  I don’t shop at Sak’s or Bergdorf’s, because I don’t give a flying fuck about expensive shirts that last no longer than a shirt I buy at Nordstroms or Macys.  I could probably afford that stuff, but I was raised in a poorer home and by conservative parents.  We were happy going to McDonald’s on a Friday night to eat out.  I didn’t know about Gucci, Balenciaga, and Hermes until well into adulthood.  I never saw the value for those items, and just saw them as overpriced items for things I could get elsewhere.  I was taught to manage money wisely, and that is why I can hire escorts to this day.

I know how much some female escorts can get, as I have friends that hire them.  These friends also do not come from a life of luxury.  
 

This service is not a necessity, so therefore is falls into the luxury realm of things.  Do you need to be a millionaire to afford this service?  No.  Not at all.

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6 minutes ago, HoseMaster said:

I couldn’t disagree more.  I would venture to say that a lot of people on these forums are not millionaires, or even multi-millionaires as I presume yourself to be.  We can’t afford to take escorts on mutli-thousand dollar shopping sprees after the session is over, or give them lavish gifts, or pay $3,000 for an overnight.

I stopped reading after the third sentence. Bottom line, this industry isn’t for you. It’s a luxury service. If you can’t afford it, shop elsewhere. You’ve already mentioned your budget is $42/hour. So go to Walmart. 

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Just now, Midtownguy99 said:

I stopped reading after the third sentence. Bottom line, this industry isn’t for you. It’s a luxury service. If you can’t afford it, shop elsewhere. You’ve already mentioned your budget is $42/hour. So go to Walmart. 

It IS for me, and most other people on here.  I have no problem shopping at Walmart either.  Go back to eating your caviar in your multi-million dollar penthouse, having your butler wait on you hand and foot, and hire those $1,000 an hour escorts.  There definitely a niche for your type too, as those $3,000 an overnight, or $1,000 an hour escorts need someone to hire them still.  I’ll stick to my wonderful $600-$1,500 overnights, and $200-300 hour escorts, as they’re still out there quite plentifully.

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5 hours ago, Benjamin_Nicholas said:

I will say, it's entertaining as hell.  All of it.  This whole board.  It's never boring :)

Damn, I still haven't managed to get that right!

(And as an aside albeit as part of the thread's Great Tangent, there is a thread about overnights. It is in the Ask A Provider forum so technically clients shouldn't be pontificating about our views, but that hasn't stopped us before. I'm sure that there are others as well.)

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14 hours ago, Midtownguy99 said:

With me personally, I’ve paid $3,000 for a 12 hour overnight with a fantastic provider on more than one occasion. When he arrived to the hotel room I had two gifts for him, wrapped and waiting for him on the bed, along with an envelope with his name on it with his requested donation inside. I made him feel happy, excited and comfortable so we both would be at ease for the rest of the evening.  
 

Now if you can’t afford that or don’t think a provider is worth that, then that’s perfectly ok. Move on and continue on your hunt for your next $42/hour hire. 

Extravagant spending there Midtown. I haven't heard such lavish spending since Jimboivyo flying in 'providers' to his remote Texas ranch on his private jet. For a one night gig!

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42 minutes ago, glutes said:

Extravagant spending there Midtown. I haven't heard such lavish spending since Jimboivyo flying in 'providers' to his remote Texas ranch on his private jet. For a one night gig!

I wouldn’t say it’s extravagant spending. $3,000 for a 12 hour overnight equates to $250/hour. I would say this is normal spending. I could’ve paid $2,000 and had him for 8 hours. Is that really what you guys consider to be extravagant? 

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15 hours ago, azdr0710 said:

if you think this never-resolvable topic deserves to be discussed more, create your own thread!........or use the search function to find the dozens of others threads trying to reconcile what providers request......hours of fun!

Agreed.  I get disappointed every time I open this thread and there is no new "nice butt" link to click!

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I went and saw “The Lost City” the other day starring Sandra Bullock & Channing Tatum.  I know he’s not an escort, but there’s a leech scene in there where she pulls off leeches on his butt, abs that is one fine-ass butt for a 42 year old.  Everything I read says that is his butt.

 

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On 3/30/2022 at 3:17 PM, HoseMaster said:

I went and saw “The Lost City” the other day starring Sandra Bullock & Channing Tatum.  I know he’s not an escort, but there’s a leech scene in there where she pulls off leeches on his butt, abs that is one fine-ass butt for a 42 year old.  Everything I read says that is his butt.

 

I thought I was gonna see channing tatum's butt. What a let down. Boo!!!!

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THIS guy has an amazing butt.  Perfectly positioned on top of muscular legs, his butt is plump yet firm.  The ass crack has a surprisingly blonde dusting of soft, natural hair that surrounds a youthful and supple boy hole.  

Although off-topic in this thread - he is a totally nice guy who takes his craft seriously.

I have been there.  And I will go back.

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