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Thanks to all who have shared your thoughts and concerns about this new feature. The moderators  have read them and will discuss them.

Lately, I’ve been dealing with several issues/violations  coming from bumping up old threads. Most have been reported for personal attacks and misinformation about providers. The majority of these reports are originating from the Deli.

Recently, I  started a thread in the Lounge asking for your help after a “newbie” (possibly an old user  under a new name) posted 7 replies, resurrecting old threads, to attack different providers with damaging information.  

Just the other day another “newbie” resurrected 4 old threads to announce that a retired provider was returning to the business. It wasn’t true but in his multiple messages he shared the providers current personal contact information. 

I appreciate the memberships help in reporting & identifying these messages. All these posts had one thing in common, they were threads dating back several years. All actions had to be handled by the moderators. This is very time consuming and, as you know, we only have a few moderators. Sadly, no one answered our call for volunteers to help.

By adding this new feature, we are hoping to cut back on these violations. Please, let’s give it a try. If problems do arise, let’s discuss it and see how we can accommodate you. 

If you have a personal concern, please feel free to contact us privately by either posting in the new Forum: “Ask A Moderator”,  or “ “contact us”. These messages will be received & seen only by the Moderators. 

Cooper

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If a poster tries to resurrect a post that’s been inactive for 2 years maybe the “the system” could automatically intercede and warn:

“The thread you are responding to is over two years old. As such your post will not “go live” until it has been reviewed by a moderator to ensure it remains useful to the discussion.”

I suspect most posters would chose not to reopen the thread. But if they decided to move forward the post would then automatically go to the moderator review queue for blessing.

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27 minutes ago, not2rowdy said:

If a poster tries to resurrect a post that’s been inactive for 2 years maybe the “the system” could automatically intercede and warn:

“The thread you are responding to is over two years old. As such your post will not “go live” until it has been reviewed by a moderator to ensure it remains useful to the discussion.”

I suspect most posters would chose not to reopen the thread. But if they decided to move forward the post would then automatically go to the moderator review queue for blessing.

This sounds like a great idea!

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3 hours ago, Cooper said:

Thanks to all who have shared your thoughts and concerns about this new feature. The moderators  have read them and will discuss them.

Lately, I’ve been dealing with several issues/violations  coming from bumping up old threads. Most have been reported for personal attacks and misinformation about providers. The majority of these reports are originating from the Deli.

Recently, I  started a thread in the Lounge asking for your help after a “newbie” (possibly an old user  under a new name) posted 7 replies, resurrecting old threads, to attack different providers with damaging information.  

Just the other day another “newbie” resurrected 4 old threads to announce that a retired provider was returning to the business. It wasn’t true but in his multiple messages he shared the providers current personal contact information. 

I appreciate the memberships help in reporting & identifying these messages. All these posts had one thing in common, they were threads dating back several years. All actions had to be handled by the moderators. This is very time consuming and, as you know, we only have a few moderators. Sadly, no one answered our call for volunteers to help.

By adding this new feature, we are hoping to cut back on these violations. Please, let’s give it a try. If problems do arise, let’s discuss it and see how we can accommodate you. 

If you have a personal concern, please feel free to contact us privately by either posting in the new Forum: “Ask A Moderator”,  or “ “contact us”. These messages will be received & seen only by the Moderators. 

Cooper

It's good that the moderators have taken such a proactive approach to stamping this out. Some of the vitriolic and toxic commentary in the deli is probably why few providers come on here. Such remarks also lessen the credibility of this site. It runs the risk of looking like a place where the worst among clients can come, complain and pile on someone. It is one thing to raise objections or criticisms of a provider, entirely different when it is debased to personal insults and unsubstantiated claims attacking that provider's character. Just my opinion as a longtime provider who was on the receiving end of such behavior in the past years ago and wasn't here to respond. 

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7 hours ago, rn901 said:

Then we shouldn't be shocked that most leave the business around two years or less. Such short retention also means a decline in overall quality long term. In any other job, one wouldn't want to have complaints from several years ago used against them permanently. Who would want to stick around for that?

Most escorts who leave the business do it because they don't like, they found a better way to make money, there's not much demand for them, or other personal reason.  Sean Xavier for instance has retired and come back to the business at least twice. 

Feedback is feedback... even if those old threads can't be bumped potential clients will read them if they search. We can always start several thread on the same guy. 

Unfortunately few members on here search the way @samhexum does before posting. 

 

 

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On 10/13/2021 at 2:05 PM, marylander1940 said:

Most escorts who leave the business do it because they don't like, they found a better way to make money, there's not much demand for them, or other personal reason.  Sean Xavier for instance has retired and come back to the business at least twice. 

Feedback is feedback... even if those old threads can't be bumped potential clients will read them if they search. We can always start several thread on the same guy. 

Unfortunately few members on here search the way @samhexum does before posting. 

 

 

There is a myriad of factors as to why there is such a short retention rate in the business and why most escorts last two years or less. Emotional exhaustion from difficult clients is up there as a leading factor. Sure, there are other things at play like not being good at it, jealous partners, drugs, the stigma of the work ect. There is no single factor. However, if you think it helps to achieve a longer retention rate by bringing up this or that complaint from several years ago under a different name where only a single-sided narrative is given and the escort was not there to respond, then I would disagree. That hurts what is already a poor retention rate and it erodes the quality of providers to chose from in the long term. I will attest as someone who has done it a long time, that burn out is often mentioned to me as to why this or that person left the biz. Not good, and this site could either lessen that problem or worsen it depending on the norms it establishes and which course it chooses. Moderators taking a proactive approach in stamping out vitriolic remarks and toxic conduct in the deli is a positive development in the right direction. Disabling comments after multiple years of inaction of a thread is another. How far back are we are to track name changes poses questions. 

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8 minutes ago, rn901 said:

There is a myriad of factors as to why there is such a short retention rate in the business and why most escorts last two years or less. Emotional exhaustion from difficult clients is up there as a leading factor. Sure, there are other things at play like not being good at it, jealous partners, drugs, the stigma of the work ect. There is no single factor. However, if you think it helps to achieve a longer retention rate by bringing up this or that complaint from several years ago under a different name where only a single-sided narrative is given and the escort was not there to respond, then I would disagree. That hurts what is already a poor retention rate and it erodes the quality of providers to chose from in the long term. I will attest as someone who has done it a long time, that burn out is often mentioned to me as to why this or that person left the biz. Not good, and this site could either lessen that problem or worsen it depending on the norms it establishes and which course it chooses. Moderators taking a proactive approach in stamping out vitriolic remarks and toxic conduct in the deli is a positive development.  

Thank you for sharing it with us!

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On 10/13/2021 at 9:37 AM, Cooper said:

Just the other day another “newbie” resurrected 4 old threads to announce that a retired provider was returning to the business. It wasn’t true but in his multiple messages he shared the providers current personal contact information.

By adding this new feature, we are hoping to cut back on these violations. Please, let’s give it a try. If problems do arise, let’s discuss it and see how we can accommodate you.

This is a great initiative and I was about to recommend 5 years instead of 2, given that despite the low retention rate of escorts in the market, there are providers who are the exception but also a minority. When you put it that way, it totally makes sense. Nothing like an explanation from those who get their hands in the dirt. Thank you for all your hard work @Cooper.

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On 10/14/2021 at 8:23 PM, lonely_john said:

This is a great initiative and I was about to recommend 5 years instead of 2, given that despite the low retention rate of escorts in the market, there are providers who are the exception but also a minority. When you put it that way, it totally makes sense. Nothing like an explanation from those who get their hands in the dirt. Thank you for all your hard work @Cooper.

seems like a reasonable choice! 

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Guys, remember that sometimes the moderators need to implement things in a way which minimizes the amount of work they need to do to support this forum.   Their work is unpaid, and there is a LOT of it.  We are lucky that they welcome our input and banter, in turn we need to respect the decisions they make.    Thank you @RadioRob @Cooper and all the moderators for all you do!

 

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On 10/12/2021 at 11:31 PM, mike carey said:

I applaud this initiative. I'm not entirely convinced that two years is the right gap but that's a detail....

What would you prefer as the "right gap"? For the most part, I'd be in the camp of those who've been a little tired of seeing old threads resurrected, not realizing they're old threads until I go back, then roll my eyes. And yes, a certain member we know has been doing a lot of this. I agree with others that I don't see much value in having this apply to the Legacy Gallery, but maybe it's too much work to exclude just that forum. 

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