escort - can we bring back the "E", please?

[Smurof]

Out of nowhere this year it seems to be an epidemic with people in an attempt to turn it into an official Webster's Dictionary word by using "Scort". Does this bother anybody lse, I mean else?

[jjkrkwood]

Out of nowhere this year it seems to be an epidemic with people in an attempt to turn it into an official Webster's Dictionary word by using "Scort". Does this bother anybody lse, I mean else?

 

To my knowledge, Scort always was a hybrid garment for women, a mash up of a skirt and a short. ?

[+ Lucky]

I agree. Scort is lazy.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

It just sounds incredibly stupid

[+ José Soplanucas]

I think it is the influence of English learners. I noticed in many South American countries the word "scort" is used frequently. I also noticed in this board that when the shorter form is used, the poster is probably not a native English speaker,

 

Bad news for some of you: we have no control on how language evolves, specially after the Cloud and globalization. If the "e" initial is finally dropped, I would be glad. One less character for tweets!

[Bucky]

For most native Spainish speakers, isn't scort pronounced escort anyways??

[+ José Soplanucas]

For most native Spainish speakers, isn't scort pronounced escort anyways??

 

Yep, but I do not see your point. They are writing it as "scort" anyways.

[BtmBearDad]

It can come off as dismissive, bordering on insulting depending on how it’s used, the context.

 

Wasn’t there at one point a website for providers using “scort” in the name?

[+ azdr0710]

almost as rude and insulting as a client who asks the forum if anybody "has had (insert provider name here)"......

 

remember, we reap what we sow......

[marylander1940]

I agree. Scort is lazy.

 

Agreed!

 

but some posters don't know how to edit the name of a thread, in case @Smurof referring to that poster.

 

I think it is the influence of English learners. I noticed in many South American countries the word "scort" is used frequently. I also noticed in this board that when the shorter form is used, the poster is probably not a native English speaker,

 

Bad news for some of you: we have no control on how language evolves, specially after the Cloud and globalization. If the "e" initial is finally dropped, I would be glad. One less character for tweets!

 

I remember a time when "taxi boy" was used in Argentina and Uruguay.

[+ José Soplanucas]

It is probably my exquisite English, but I am missing the point. Why are we talking about insulting or offending anyone? Does anyone feel offended by the word "scort"?

[+ azdr0710]

Even the word "escort" may be offensive to some......it's one of those wink-wink-nudge-nudge words appropriated decades ago in an attempt to hide prostitution.......out of respect, I usually use the word "provider" these days here in the forum, though many clients (and many providers themselves) are entirely comfortable with the "e" word.......for English-speakers, the "s" word is silly slang, lazy, and demeaning

[lonely_john]

I think it is the influence of English learners. I noticed in many South American countries the word "scort" is used frequently. I also noticed in this board that when the shorter form is used, the poster is probably not a native English speaker,

 

Bad news for some of you: we have no control on how language evolves, specially after the Cloud and globalization. If the "e" initial is finally dropped, I would be glad. One less character for tweets!

What you say is true but we must fight for the conservation of our language.

I hate when young providers write "dominate" instead of "dominant", "discrete" instead of "discreet", and etc.

It's especially shocking when a said provider says he's "attending college."

There's a fantastic FREE tool called Grammarly that every non-native English speaker should learn to use.

[+ José Soplanucas]

What you say is true but we must fight for the conservation of our language.

 

I agree. I am a teacher. However, the ability to write "properly"in any given language is often an indicator of social class. Privileged classes often use their higher language skills to look down to those less privileged. Although I share the goal to keep our language skills as sophisticated and elevated as possible, I do not share the degree of the reaction I see here at something like "scort".

 

If a lot of people really feel so disturbed at "scort", I am very tempted to start using it systematically every time I write.

[lonely_john]

Privileged classes often use their higher language skills to look down to those less privileged.

I get your point but I respectfully disagree.

Correct use of language is (and should) not (be) exclusive to any social class.

 

Systematically and repeatedly using the wrong grammar despite receiving proper education and having access to technological tools to improve their use of language is not an indicator of any social class or "being cool", but an indicator of "poor education" and laziness. Please note that I'm not referring to you but the providers.

 

I'm far more tolerant to incorrect use of grammar in the case of people whose first language is not English and who are new to the country. But if they have already spent a few years in an English-speaking country they should do their best to learn the local language. This doesn't mean that they have to abandon or forget their first one.

Edited May 3, 2021 by lonely_john

[+ José Soplanucas]

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I'm far more tolerant to incorrect use of grammar in the case of people whose first language is not English and who are new to the country. But if they have already spent a few years in an English-speaking country they should do their best to learn the local language. This doesn't mean that they have to abandon or forget their first one.

 

We all sincerely appreciate and thank you for your generous and well hearted advise on what we should do.

 

That said, I do not think you are getting my point. Your response shows no human empathy and no recognition of the fact that access to higher education is co related to economic status.

 

Additionally, in my personal experience, the argumentative line you are following in the quoted paragraph sounds very familiar to me. I do not know you, perhaps you speak several languages and expect from their native speakers to hold you to the same standards you are sharing here for non native English speakers (writers).

 

So, please take this as an attempt to explain why I get so defensive here. Most times I have been faced with these kind of arguments, the complainers expected everyone else to learn English but they were unable to speak a second language.

 

But indeed I think we all can agree on something. We all try to speak and write as well as we can.

[+ WilliamM]

My first cousin lived in France for years, and with extraordinary effort to speak French was exhausted at by 5pm each wiork day from

speaking French. Me too. So the effort is there @latbear4blk

Edited May 3, 2021 by WilliamM

[lonely_john]

I do not think you are getting my point. Your response shows no human empathy and no recognition of the fact that access to higher education is co related to economic status.

Believe me when I say that I got your point.

I acknowledge that there is a certain correlation between income and better education, but it's not absolute or deterministic.

There are wealthy people with terrible grammar and poor people who speak and write beautifully, even in their 1st language.

[+ FreshFluff]

“Scort” sounds more gen Z.

[bostonman]

“Scort” sounds more gen Z.

 

With the emphasis on "gen"

[maninsoma]

I never thought anyone was attempting to be insulting when using the term "scort." It sounds silly to me, but I don't understand why it would be interpreted as insulting.

[+ FreshFluff]

With the emphasis on "gen"

 

Actually, it sounds positively 1987 to my ear. “I met a scort, and the experience was rad.” Everything old is new again or something.

 

As for “generation,” didn’t the word get shortened during the X era?

[bostonman]

As for “generation,” didn’t the word get shortened during the X era?

 

I may have been too cryptic lol. I was referring to "gen" as in "generous" - which of course is one of those quasi-code words used in the industry. (Or at least by guys dabbling in the industry.)

[+ FreshFluff]

I may have been too cryptic lol. I was referring to "gen" as in "generous" - which of course is one of those quasi-code words used in the industry. (Or at least by guys dabbling in the industry.)

 

?

[bostonman]

?

 

That's one too, lol. ;-)