Paying for the Uber

[Islesguy]

To me that seems like comparing apples to oranges. Do you require your customers to pay the delivery driver directly and make the delivery arrangements themselves? That’s what’s happening when a client arranges Uber for a provider.

If you parse that way, sure, but from the 50' perspective, it's not any different. Someone is paying for "delivery of service."

[+ RJD]

If you parse that way, sure, but from the 50' perspective, it's not any different. Someone is paying for "delivery of service."

Actually, in your example, someone is paying for delivery of merchandise, not service. The cost of that merchandise was incurred by your candy company when purchased from a distributor and sold to a customer at a small profit margin. That small margin necessitates a delivery fee so you can maintain a profit after incurring those delivery expenses. The escort is not delivering merchandise. There isn't a small profit margin to be maintained. To be clear, I'm all for paying a higher rate for outcall to cover travel, whether it's Uber, taxi, or gasoline for their car. I'm not ok with paying the higher rate and additional for transportation for a local escort.

[Daniel84]

Requesting Uber is not uncommon in my area, although I prefer if the providers are big boys and manage their own transportation. Perhaps this is a way to weed out flaky clients, because it’s money up front and the address is shared.

 

If I see a new client I never seen before I have them book the Uber. They are more likely to be at the said location. I have gone to outcalls and the client never responded when I arrived.

 

It’s a great way too weed out real clients.

[Islesguy]

Actually, in your example, someone is paying for delivery of merchandise, not service. The cost of that merchandise was incurred by your candy company when purchased from a distributor and sold to a customer at a small profit margin. That small margin necessitates a delivery fee so you can maintain a profit after incurring those delivery expenses. The escort is not delivering merchandise. There isn't a small profit margin to be maintained. To be clear, I'm all for paying a higher rate for outcall to cover travel, whether it's Uber, taxi, or gasoline for their car. I'm not ok with paying the higher rate and additional for transportation for a local escort.

I was agreeing with you about escorts who charge more for outcalls than for incalls. My first post stated exactly that about pricing yourself to avoid nickel and diming people.

 

If you are going to increase your fee for an outcall, that should cover the transportation costs especially if you aren't traveling far. I won't pay extra for "delivery of goods/service". OTOH, If you don't have a different price for and in and out calls, I would be willing to pay a "delivery fee."

[NJmusclelover]

If you parse that way, sure, but from the 50' perspective, it's not any different. Someone is paying for "delivery of service."

I don’t buy anything on line without free shipping either

[+ blondeq]

I am agnostic to the amount an escort charges. Depending on that charge, I decide if the potential session is worth it. if an escort quotes a price then adds an Uber fee, we are done. Travel fees are a low class gouge. My concierge physician does not charge me for travel, so I expect the same courtesy from an escort.

[MikeBiDude]

If I see a new client I never seen before I have them book the Uber. They are more likely to be at the said location. I have gone to outcalls and the client never responded when I arrived.

 

It’s a great way too weed out real clients.

I’ve had Uber used before as a way to establish my client “creds”. Was a short distance, minimal cost, I did it.

 

Flip side? I like sending an Uber bcs I can see when the provider is picked up, when they will arrive, etc. Lends certainty to the whole arrangement.

[lonely_john]

To me that seems like comparing apples to oranges. Do you require your customers to pay the delivery driver directly and make the delivery arrangements themselves? That’s what’s happening when a client arranges Uber for a provider.

Same. I’m not looking for a man who needs help with transportation.

CAVEAT: Not every Metropolitan area has a reliable public transportation system. I would understand the need for an Uber in that case but the ideal scenario as others have pointed out on this thread is that the cost is included in the rate, and not as an additional cost that the client must arrange and pay for as it certainly projects the idea that the provider is a prima-donna even if he isn't. If an Uber is definitely needed to weed out timewasters in the case of a 1st-time client in a distant location, then the provider would need to be tactful about it and explain that because the city doesn't have a reliable public transportation system and the trip is +50m/1h each way, he would need some help with that. Good manners always go a long way.

 

I don’t buy anything on line without free shipping either

I also love Free Shipping ? but I also don't know how much of a problem are timewasters or client no-shows in NYC. I just know it's one of the most competitive markets in the world. I understand 1st time meetings come with their trust issues especially in America where Sex Work is an illegal activity. I just wouldn't feel ok about a request for an Uber considering I'm a long-established client on RM who lives in the city and the escort lives less than 5 miles away from me.

 

I’ve had Uber used before as a way to establish my client “creds”. Was a short distance, minimal cost, I did it.

 

Flip side? I like sending an Uber bcs I can see when the provider is picked up, when they will arrive, etc. Lends certainty to the whole arrangement.

Great and fair point. For me, it's just not the norm. I also never express any interest in escorts who are too far from me. For the most part, I prefer to do incalls and go to their place.

Edited April 19, 2021 by lonely_john

[Islesguy]

Personally, I hate using Uber in Manhattan. The two times I tried were a disaster in trying to find the car picking me up in modtown. Much rather just hail a cab even if ends up being more expensive. That is if I'm not using the subway which is much more typical for me.

[The Dude]

My job doesn't cover my transportation costs to and from work; this is the same concept.

[Daniel84]

My job doesn't cover my transportation costs to and from work; this is the same concept.

 

I agree but your Job will be there when you arrive. You have no idea how many guys would hire me. I get to the hotel a job and nobody’s at the hotel it was some loser just fucking with me wasting my time. It probably wasn’t even a real client maybe it was one of my competitors

[Cruiser7]

Has anyone order flowers or candy for delivery and not paid the additional amount for the delivery cost? I don't see how that's different than paying a guy's transportation costs to you. My family's candy shoppe provides free delivery for any place within 5 miles. Any farther and we start charging a delivery fee to cover the costs of delivery.

But do you charge extra for the flowers and candy because they’re being delivered? No. You charge to deliver them.

[MiamiLooker]

If an escort or masseur requires their transportation paid for by the client in order to do an outcall, it should be stated in their ad.

Edited April 19, 2021 by MiamiLooker

[hardgrinder]

NYC subway is not very efficient

I can see asking for an Uber to an appointment for veracity. But Uber back home? Baby, it takes money to make money!

[lonely_john]

I agree but your Job will be there when you arrive. You have no idea how many guys would hire me. I get to the hotel a job and nobody’s at the hotel it was some loser just fucking with me wasting my time. It probably wasn’t even a real client maybe it was one of my competitors

This one is easy. When I travel and stay at hotels most times providers ask for the hotel and room number to call and confirm that I'm physically there.

[+ luckydog]

Uber is a hard no for me. I’m not their personal assistant booking and scheduling their transportation. I presume the out rate is more because of transportation. Though I have given many rides to places after. It’s only come up a few times and I say no and move on if necessary. Fortunately in a big city their are plenty of other options.

[+ DrownedBoy]

I strongly prefer providers who handle it themselves, even if it's with an increased fee. You ever order someone an Uber, then send screen shots so they know the car and license plate? Or have a provider miss the car (since they're not paying, they don't care about cancellation fees)? PITA. I'm not paying, as someone said, to be someone's social secretary.

 

If a provider is from out of town, I prefer they adjust their fees accordingly.

 

It's a hard stop for me if someone agrees, then only later demands an Uber. I just cancel- that's the same as demanding extra money at the last moment. Common scam.

 

Also, extra Uber fees should only be for established, reliable escorts. I've encountered kids with no reviews who think they're worth 300 plus Uber. One of them thought that if he held out, I'd get horny and agree to his Uber an hour later. Cute.

 

As far as "cheap" is concerned- how many times has someone said it? If I pissed away my money like that all the time, I wouldn't have money to hire. And it's more about my self respect than the money.

[Daniel84]

My rule of thumb is if it cost more then $50 to travel back and fourth it isn’t worth my time. Granted I don’t escort I just do massage on a part time basis . I get many clients requesting to travel to NJ which I am to busy with my other business to travel 2 hours.

 

If I have a new client that wants a Outcall That I have to Uber to I will discount the cost that he ubered. It’s a great way for me to weed out fake clients.

 

I have had a few clients where I would show up for a late appointment and the client fell asleep. I was out $100 and 2 hours of travel time.

 

Of course I receive some push back about new clients paying for the Uber. My response is come to me instead and after we meet I would have no problem paying for the Uber for a Outcall.

[BuffaloKyle]

When I hire the discussion of rate is after I state a place and time I'd first like the appointment to occur and then I ask how much. So whether or not they have charged me extra I don't know.

[Brad1212]

Uber them to you, they'll be happy you're treating them as gentlemen even before meeting them.

 

 

 

Exactly! It's a way for both the provider and the client to know they're for real and not flaky. Considering so many clients complaining about no shows I think it's a great idea for him to know the guy is actually coming.

 

 

 

if you're deducting the price from your payment you're not actually paying for it.

 

You have used the same phrase before, very few times posters (clients and escorts) refer to their activity as "work". Technology and times do change! Years ago escorts had no iPhone and before not even a cellphone. Uber is a new tool for them, why not using it?

 

If a client wants someone ASAP and it's late at night he should pay for the Uber or even better Ubering the guy to him.

Agreed. Keep it classy!

[coriolis888]

Like any other business-related fee, for any other profession, I believe that an escort should factor it into his hourly rate.

 

Attorneys, doctors, hairstylists, house cleaners, or any other proprietor does not ask for a separate Uber fee, so why should an escort.

 

Also, IMO, it comes off kinda tacky, especially since the average escort earns a MINIMUM of $300 per hour.

 

 

What would we say if our attorney, doctor, hairstylist et cetera charged us $300.00 hourly then asked us for Uber reimbursement?

 

Some escorts and clients have lost focus on reality.

[lonely_john]

One of them thought that if he held out, I'd get horny and agree to his Uber an hour later. Cute.

OMG you made me LOL.

Edited April 19, 2021 by lonely_john

[Epigonos]

I have been hiring escorts for twenty years and I usually require out calls. This is not rocket science. When I contact an escort: 1.) I ask him if he does outcalls to my area, 2.) I tell him that I am interested in approximately a three-hour arrangement. One hour for a meal and two for play time. and 3.) I ask him if he is interested in that type of arrangement and if so, what his fee would be. At this point the ball is in the escorts court. He has sufficient information to determine all his costs regarding our possible get together. Thus, I expect him to provide me with a single figure NOT an itemized estimate. If and when he does I determine if his fee appears reasonable to me. If it does, we continue making arrangements to meet. If it does not, I thank him for his time and break off communication.

 

I have traveled with escorts on a number of occasions. In those situations, I certainly pay all costs; airfare, hotels, meals, and all other costs except for personal items the escort chooses to purchase. Comparing airfare to Uber fare is ridiculous and absurd.

[DMICS]

You ever order someone an Uber, then send screen shots so they know the car and license plate?

 

I have...a few times with reputable providers I've hired for an outcall (key being reputable). And in all cases things went smooth with the Uber arrangement.

[WaGa]

He’s not your employee. Why should you pay for his transport?