Do companions segment their client base?

[Jarrod_Uncut]

He paid them... they had sex with him because of his money. Some maybe got a car or a house from him...

 

 

 

Another wealth guy hired and someone simply craved more!

 

Jarec Wentworth Released From Prison After 70 Months • Instinct Magazine

 

"Brank warned that he would tell people that Burns was gay and paying for an escort if he didn’t pay $500,000 in cash and hand over his $100,000 Audi sports car. Burns quickly followed Brank’s demands, but that only led to Brank wanting more. Brank then demanded that Burns give him Burns’ Los Angeles apartment and $1 million in cash. While Burns agreed, he also called the FBI."

 

I don't want to get wrapped up in gossiping about a person's downfall, because at the end of the day we don't really know the situation as it played out. but this example reeks of White privilege. It sounded like the guy was already making good coin as it is, yet he abused the situation far beyond what was necessary.

 

Yet it seems like the 3rd degree is given when a genuine provider asks for a cancellation fee or deposit: despite the provider already spending money out pocket in anticipation for a booking that may or may not happen.

Edited April 6, 2021 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I have one super rich friend, and I mean super rich. All I’ll say is this. He does use escorts and with everything else in his life would not pay one cent more than he thought was reasonable. I think there is a mistaken notion about very rich people, namely that they through their money around like pretzels at a party. My friend can smell a mile off anyone after his money.

 

I know people like that also. I mean, if we've learned anything over the last 4 year's: a person can be a billionaire and still be frugal and treat people with little worth. I used to come across guys like that all the time:

 

I knew an older guy (not a client, but just had miscellaneous boy toys he'd take out to dinner, etc) years ago when I was younger and dumber, who was decently wealthy: not rich, but had a home in Miami and Pennsylvania. He was so cheap, I had a vehicular emergency occur in his driveway. Had AAA tow me to the shop. Repair bill was like $250. I was already in the area from out of town, which made it worse. He didn't even try to offer me anything, so I could at the very least; make it to a client if one called.

 

But then again, I've found some of the worst "rich" guys are the ones who keep Black "boy toys" around. They have their 1 trophy they keep around and take care of all their expenses...but anytime their others have an issue, they categorize them as just another guy with "problems" and their insensitivity kicks in.

 

That's why I don't care to keep the company of "rich" guys unless we're in a communicated exchange situation. Not that it always has to be about money, but with the understanding that if I need it, they'll be willing to share likewise as I'd be willing to share my craft. But if they think they can get access just because they offer me a room in their home or a fancy dinner... please.

 

That's why I'm so glad on my last tour, I took MYSELF out to eat majority of the time (except when out with my buddy @jbm500 who was courteous to treat a couple of times) and stayed in a hotel nearly every night of the trip except 2. I've grown tired of people doing things for me and thinking since they did it, they don't have to do anything else or that I'm somehow "indebted" to be grateful for what they offered, no questions or substitutions asked

[+ nycman]

Super wealthy do not need to use escorts.

Disagree....David Geffen by example.

This is precisely my point. Geffen had boyfriends, not escorts off rentmen.

Well ask Donald Burns.

News flash kids!

 

Both of them have boyfriends....AND use rentmen.

 

The two arrangements are not mutually exclusive.

[big-n-tall]

News flash kids!

 

Both of them have boyfriends....AND use rentmen.

 

The two arrangements are not mutually exclusive.

 

New flash kid!

 

I don't disagree with your statement. I didn't say the two arrangements weren't mutually exclusive. I was just using Burns as a reference point because I know he was hiring Sean Cody guys who escorted. I hired a couple... one in particular was with him a lot.

[marylander1940]

"Brank warned that he would tell people that Burns was gay and paying for an escort if he didn’t pay $500,000 in cash and hand over his $100,000 Audi sports car. Burns quickly followed Brank’s demands, but that only led to Brank wanting more. Brank then demanded that Burns give him Burns’ Los Angeles apartment and $1 million in cash. While Burns agreed, he also called the FBI."

 

I don't want to get wrapped up in gossiping about a person's downfall, because at the end of the day we don't really know the situation as it played out. but this example reeks of White privilege. It sounded like the guy was already making good coin as it is, yet he abused the situation far beyond what was necessary.

 

Yet it seems like the 3rd degree is given when a genuine provider asks for a cancellation fee or deposit: despite the provider already spending money out pocket in anticipation for a booking that may or may not happen.

 

and despite the client being SO freaking wealthy...

 

I've heard about clients that if they have to cancel they send the fee anyways. I doubt 2000 was anything else than change in his pocket.

 

At the same time Jarec Wentworth could have been nicer and move on, thinking about all the likely next appointments with Burns.

[cany10011]

Money is supposed the be the great equalizer. However, in this case, the escort became too greedy.

[HoleTrainer]

I don't segment clients by wealth- in terms of giving them a different level of service for the same session booked. However, my rate structure necessarily enforces a hierarchy of experiences according to what someone is willing and able to pay. Most of my clients can only afford a one, two, or three hour session. A good percentage can also afford more like 4-6 hour bookings. It's a bit rarer for me to get someone who books me for an overnight or a weekend- because my rates are high for these services. In this way, you could argue that wealthier clients who are able to afford $10K for a weekend are getting a much higher level of service from me. But a client who is not at ALL wealthy, who comes across a $10K windfall and chooses to spend it on a weekend with me, is getting just as good of a level of service from me throughout the weekend as the wealthier client who booked the same session. Likewise, a very wealthy client who chooses to book only an hour with me is not getting any better service than every other client who books an hour.

[BtmBearDad]

I do not believe providers classify their clients based on net worth, then charge accordingly at all. However, I do know from a provider they may be more apt to cancel on a “regular” client if a HNW one comes around. Not because they’ll charge more, but more about what accompanies the HNW client. As the provider put it “a couple of hours at the Marriott Marquis vs an overnight to Bermuda is not a hard choice”.

[cany10011]

I do not believe providers classify their clients based on net worth, then charge accordingly at all. However, I do know from a provider they may be more apt to cancel on a “regular” client if a HNW one comes around. Not because they’ll charge more, but more about what accompanies the HNW client. As the provider put it “a couple of hours at the Marriott Marquis vs an overnight to Bermuda is not a hard choice”.

 

I understand this point of view, but if the escort breaks the commitment to his regular in favor of an overnight, then he’s not really someone worth seeing again. I’ve made commitments I’ve had to keep despite better offers coming along.

[BtmBearDad]

I understand this point of view, but if the escort breaks the commitment to his regular in favor of an overnight, then he’s not really someone worth seeing again. I’ve made commitments I’ve had to keep despite better offers coming along.

 

Sorry mate! I misused the word “regular” - should have realised how it could be read - mea culpa.

In this context, I meant regular as in not a HNW client, just an average Joe so to speak.

 

BBD

[Luv2play]

I have one super rich friend, and I mean super rich. All I’ll say is this. He does use escorts and with everything else in his life would not pay one cent more than he thought was reasonable. I think there is a mistaken notion about very rich people, that they throw their money around like pretzels at a party. My friend can smell a mile off anyone after his money.

I have known fairly intimately a number of what I would call very rich people, not super rich like a Bill Gates, but the type who don’t worry if their money will run out and what will be left for their children or grandchildren. The type who inherited millions on their 21 st birthdays or married into the same kind of wealth, going back generations,

 

To every single one, they knew the value of money and were and are careful while spending it. They live well, even grand lives, but appear to me to be exceedingly value conscious. They know the difference between gold and dross.

[Luv2play]

I do not believe providers classify their clients based on net worth, then charge accordingly at all. However, I do know from a provider they may be more apt to cancel on a “regular” client if a HNW one comes around. Not because they’ll charge more, but more about what accompanies the HNW client. As the provider put it “a couple of hours at the Marriott Marquis vs an overnight to Bermuda is not a hard choice”.

Haha, I’ve done the Marriott Marquis scenario with an escort but never an overnight in Bermuda. If I’ve ever suffered the consequences, at least I’ve never been aware of it. Never had an escort cancel on me after agreeing to a date. So I guess I choose pretty well.

[Quincy_7]

With reference to the rich guys using escorts debate, I know of one escort who was taken off the market by a wealthy benefactor who he initially saw as a client. The former escort's instagram is now embazoned with pictures of him in several exotic destinations (with his daddy out of frame of course). It's just one example, but it's not hard to imagine how a rich guy could initially hire someone and then take them off the market with an exclusive offer.

 

I'm personally hoping their relationship crashes and burns because I want my boy back:)

[cany10011]

With reference to the rich guys using escorts debate, I know of one escort who was taken off the market by a wealthy benefactor who he initially saw as a client. The former escort's instagram is now embazoned with pictures of him in several exotic destinations (with his daddy out of frame of course). It's just one example, but it's not hard to imagine how a rich guy could initially hire someone and then take them off the market with an exclusive offer.

 

I'm personally hoping their relationship crashes and burns because I want my boy back:)

 

Have you reached out to your "guy" - perhaps he can still see you??? There are several RM escorts that are not listing themselves, yet are available to me as a former client. I've never asked if they are "off" the market, or presume they have enough regulars? I see 2-3 of them weekly. I'm comfortable but would never think of committing myself to just one. Have done so in the past and the breakups are sometimes difficult to extricate onself. One lived with me for 5 months after I broke it off as he had a hard time to find a place to live. I have so many varied tastes in guys that it would be hard to chose just one. Sometimes I want a blonde twink, other times a muscular hairy guy, and sometimes a dark haired mediterranean.

Edited April 16, 2021 by cany10011

[NikoLeto]

I think the topic here got a lot derailed, but as an escort, I figured I'd chime in. Like @Jarrod_Uncut, I structure my fees around what's expected of me, not what the client can pay. I can't see this being a successful strategy. Unless you bring incredible things to the table, or are gifted in pretty specific ways, you'll lose the client to someone charging local prices.

[Quincy_7]

Have you reached out to your "guy" - perhaps he can still see you??? There are several RM escorts that are not listing themselves, yet are available to me as a former client. I've never asked if they are "off" the market, or presume they have enough regulars? I see 2-3 of them weekly. I'm comfortable but would never think of committing myself to just one. Have done so in the past and the breakups are sometimes difficult to extricate onself. One lived with me for 5 months after I broke it off as he had a hard time to find a place to live. I have so many varied tastes in guys that it would be hard to chose just one. Sometimes I want a blonde twink, other times a muscular hairy guy, and sometimes a dark haired mediterranean.

 

The former escort is now domiciled in his daddy's city so reaching out is not an option. And I definitely get your concerns with exclusivity. One of the perks of being uber rich is being able to bed any gay man you want. Why limit yourself to one when you can have them all?

[cany10011]

The former escort is now domiciled in his daddy's city so reaching out is not an option. And I definitely get your concerns with exclusivity. One of the perks of being uber rich is being able to bed any gay man you want. Why limit yourself to one when you can have them all?

Agreed. I'm making up for a lost year right now.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I think the topic here got a lot derailed, but as an escort, I figured I'd chime in. Like @Jarrod_Uncut, I structure my fees around what's expected of me, not what the client can pay. I can't see this being a successful strategy. Unless you bring incredible things to the table, or are gifted in pretty specific ways, you'll lose the client to someone charging local prices.

 

definitely facts. And at the end of the day, one can’t always tell how much a client is “worth” beyond what they choose to pay us. I know a guy who drove an old (not antique, but old) Pontiac around in his “vacation” city. He upgraded to a regular Honda car.

 

But one day, he invited me to his home up north. He has a Lincoln SUV, a Cadillac convertible, and a pickup truck. Sitting on acres of land in a McMansion. He originally told me he has a mediocre job, like a chiropractor. But later revealed he owned a medical practice. I guess he trusted me at that point to not go haywire, but our 1st meet was at a Ritz Carlton mountain resort, so that was a dead giveaway lol.

 

But just goes to show. People will only let known what they want to be known, so it’s pointless trying to do a “sliding scale” of rates. But if an escort is true to themselves and know their worth, they can get their rates regardless if the client shows up in a Pinto or a Bugatti

[CalTec]

One thing I've noticed with the HVC's I've been hired by is that they want to book many guys in one session. I've been asked how many I can bring along, or if I'm cool with other guys being there with me. I always ask which other hires are going to be there and either tell him that I'll pass and wait for our 1 on 1 or go and enjoy.

 

They're also usually into some unconventional fetishes which I'm happy to accommodate. ?