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I could think of a couple things...

  • inspiring and transparent leaders
  • having a culture of diversity, inclusivity, and belongingness
  • having a 'recreation' room
  • having a particular restroom that has its own glory hole
  • having lots of really hot and horny men that are just open to fucking me during lunch time or right after work
  • a smoothie bar
  • dedicated parking space closest to the elevator
  • at least a 10% base pay increase and 25-30% bonus every year
  • having a 'relaxation' room with a massage chair and table, with a revolving menu of hot masseurs giving erotic massages
  • having a movie or theater room
  • my own office with magnificent views
  • free michelin-star breakfasts and lunches
  • competent staff who love me

other than those, I am a pretty simple, low-maintenance guy. pretty straightforward ?

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I’d be happy if everyone just paid their bills on time and

didn’t expect a free ride.

 

Unfortunately, I live in New York, where everyone thinks

they should get 90% of things for free and the other 10%

should be “negotiable“ after the fact.

 

The only reason I manage to survive is no one else wants

to deal with this bullshit.

 

Viva Micro-Capitalism in a Socialist state!

 

Sometimes I feel like the dude selling American jeans

out of the trunk of his Lada on Red Square circa 1989.

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I’d be happy if everyone just paid their bills on time and

didn’t expect a free ride.

 

Unfortunately, I live in New York, where everyone thinks

they should get 90% of things for free and the other 10%

should be “negotiable“ after the fact.

 

The only reason I manage to survive is no one else wants

to deal with this bullshit.

 

Viva Micro-Capitalism in a Socialist state!

 

Sometimes I feel like the dude selling American jeans

out of the trunk of his Lada on Red Square circa 1989.

 

Sounds like song lyrics!

 

This is 90%, the other 10% is stigma

 

yes, and the double legal standard between workers and those who hire them.

 

The stigma is slowly disappearing among younger generations.

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One major factor would be ease of payment. I think that it must be understood cash is ideal for me. I find Venmo and other payment apps troublesome in that those can be audited.

 

From one provider to clients, please offer cash as an option and have it ready upon arrival. Let’s make it easy for everyone

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Ok, here's my improvement: in the 22 years I've been escorting the industry has not supported my raising my rates, not once. I charged $XXX/hour in 1999 and I charge the same $XXX in 2021, and I could not realistically charge more, nor could I have charged more in say 2009.

 

However, West side Lawyers charged $350/hr in 1999 and are charging around $800 or even $1000/hour now. I don't want to charge $1000/hour, but the fact that male escorts are basically locked in to charging the same rates for the last 22 years, indicates that we are under-appreciated, even though OF COURSE I know we are greatly appreciated.

 

The improvement I want? I want male escorts to be paid more. Not the same as female escorts, which these days are, what, $500/hour? more? but more than we were in 1999, that would be nice. But I can't bitch, I'm doing fine. Or I was before the pandemic.

 

Other Improvements? I guess I wish more explicit reviews returned, though I understand why they can't.

 

I've never had problems with clients not showing up, or rather it's happened so rarely I won't complain.

 

I think RentMen is basically a good site. I know people complain, but I'm just grateful they don't charge RentBoy prices and that RentMasseur doesn't charge MassageM4M prices, so no complaints there.

 

Legalizing it SOUNDS like a good idea, I'm just afraid that might make it more likely my family and friends might find out, and they would not understand.

 

I was resistant to Venmo/Zelle years ago, and in fact lost a client as a result, but I bitch about it less these days. I prefer cash, I also realize that we are moving away from cash.

 

I'm sure other improvements will come to me the moment I hit "post reply". :-)

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One major factor would be ease of payment. I think that it must be understood cash is ideal for me. I find Venmo and other payment apps troublesome in that those can be audited.

 

From one provider to clients, please offer cash as an option and have it ready upon arrival. Let’s make it easy for everyone

 

Good to know that is your preference but I do know for some it's not universal. I had one guy that literally wanted me to pay as we went on Venmo and a few others who just prefer that type of payment (maybe they don't want to be carrying around a lot of cash if they are traveling or whatever). I do tend to pay cash particularly to new guys. But once they are regular, I've started to ask what they prefer and just go with their payment preference.

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I have a basic phone that's running out of space and I don't have a bank app loaded, so that limits me.The last two guys I've hired preferred electronic payment, the first I paid by bank transfer using my laptop, the second with cash. He would have accepted PayPal or PayID. That's an Australian bank-operated instant payment facility that uses your phone number as a reference. Obviously legality isn't an issue here, but still I'm concerned about PayPal's reported attitude to this work. That second meeting was one of only two times I have used cash in the last 11 months.

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I have a basic phone that's running out of space and I don't have a bank app loaded, so that limits me.The last two guys I've hired preferred electronic payment, the first I paid by bank transfer using my laptop, the second with cash. He would have accepted PayPal or PayID. That's an Australian bank-operated instant payment facility that uses your phone number as a reference. Obviously legality isn't an issue here, but still I'm concerned about PayPal's reported attitude to this work. That second meeting was one of only two times I have used cash in the last 11 months.

 

 

PayPal is something I am happy to use.

 

I guess the legality comes down to how the provider sets up their account, do they describe themselves as a masseur or a sex worker, or a consultant etc.

 

sex work is the worlds oldest profession, not sure why people still have moral issues with it in 2021

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I prefer cash but many clients now prefer to pay by credit card or PayPal so I now accept those.

My only issue is I wish society was more approving of sex work in general. Where I live it’s legal but society likes to keep it out of sight (until of course they want to use it or tax it).

 

I think it should be more mainstream and not considered negatively if someone visits a sex worker for a service.

 

Just like going to the dentist for dental requirements or a psychiatrist for treatment then going to a sex worker for sexual requirements should be seen as a necessity especially if someone can’t or doesn’t want to satisfy their sexual needs in casual dating or with their regular partner.

 

Sex work is a social service and is good for society if the providers are professional. Bringing us more into mainstream will professionalise the industry.

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I always wonder what would happen if it did become legal. In regards to how many more guys would escort, how many more would hire, and what would happen rate wise.

In Sydney and Melbourne, the rates are about the same in dollar numbers (so about 30% lower). I'm not sure that legality affects availability or demand, legality doesn't appear to be an issue in the US.

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PayPal is something I am happy to use.

 

I guess the legality comes down to how the provider sets up their account, do they describe themselves as a masseur or a sex worker, or a consultant etc.

 

sex work is the worlds oldest profession, not sure why people still have moral issues with it in 2021

 

That's diversity for you. Diversity means we don't all have to feel the same way or think the same way about things and be shamed or told we are wrong. Sex work being a moral issue is different from it being a legal issue.

 

And I think by you throwing shade at people who might have moral issues with sex work, you just prove how far we haven't come. Isn't that the very issue of diversity?

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That's diversity for you. Diversity means we don't all have to feel the same way or think the same way about things and be shamed or told we are wrong. Sex work being a moral issue is different from it being a legal issue.

 

And I think by you throwing shade at people who might have moral issues with sex work, you just prove how far we haven't come. Isn't that the very issue of diversity?

 

I have the greatest respect for sex workers, some of the nicest, balanced, wise and worldly people are sex workers. Yes there are some at the other end of the scale who are doing it to fund drug habits and making an existence but .....

 

As far as throwing shade at people who judge sex workers, I am throwing the same shade at those who judge others in a negative way.

 

It is that universal issue about why is anyone concerned about what others are doing, if it does not impact you.

 

Its that universal question that is so common in cultures based on Christianity that society as a whole will interfere with others rights to live, whereas I subscribe to the philosophy of if you don‘t want/approve/like don’t take part.

 

Do not want a same sex marriage - do not have one

Do not believe in abortion - do not have one

Do not believe is sex workers - do not hire one

 

Etc etc

 

I respect peoples beliefs and ways of living, until they try to force their point of view or lifestyle upon me.

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I have the greatest respect for sex workers, some of the nicest, balanced, wise and worldly people are sex workers. Yes there are some at the other end of the scale who are doing it to fund drug habits and making an existence but .....

 

As far as throwing shade at people who judge sex workers, I am throwing the same shade at those who judge others in a negative way.

 

It is that universal issue about why is anyone concerned about what others are doing, if it does not impact you.

 

Its that universal question that is so common in cultures based on Christianity that society as a whole will interfere with others rights to live, whereas I subscribe to the philosophy of if you don‘t want/approve/like don’t take part.

 

Do not want a same sex marriage - do not have one

Do not believe in abortion - do not have one

Do not believe is sex workers - do not hire one

 

Etc etc

 

I respect peoples beliefs and ways of living, until they try to force their point of view or lifestyle upon me.

 

I don't want to hijack this thread anymore than I have, so maybe we can continue our discussion on another thread later. I'll create one later.

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Excellent idea, but not sure about this one. It might imply taxation for some working guys who are already in a difficult financial situation.

What about just decriminalization?

 

No doubt... but some would happily pay taxes in order to get verified income to rent/buy, pay healthcare, retirement, invest in the stock market, etc. and nobody would ever report all of their cash income...

 

On the other hand I wouldn't be surprised if the mafia or other criminals would use escorts as a way to do money laundering just like the do with restaurants and other businesses.

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Legalizing it SOUNDS like a good idea, I'm just afraid that might make it more likely my family and friends might find out, and they would not understand.

Excellent point!

Legalization also implies more scrutiny.

There are straight and bi providers (my favourite kind) who prefer anonymity.

I would hate seeing them all flocking to ... where? Mintboys? Yuck!

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Good to know that is your preference but I do know for some it's not universal (maybe they don't want to be carrying around a lot of cash if they are traveling or whatever).

Again, anonymity is key in this business.

Even here in Canada where it's decriminalized (not completely legal), there is stigma for providers and clients.

Once it's online, is traceable. No Bueno.

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Ask the Canadians and Europeans on here. Rates would be lower!

I doubt it. There are similar ranges of high-end and low-end rates right now in all developed countries whether it's legal or not.

If you mean that decriminalization will bring more people in and a higher supply would drive prices down, not sure either.

More availability would certainly make the market more competitive but since there are already established rates,

I doubt that newcomers would adopt any extremes. In my experience, in any matured market prices tend to standardize.

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