The Virus and me

[Luv2play]

Over the last 20 years Laguna Beach has gone VERY upscale. All the gay "riffraff" has been priced out and that includes establishments like the Boomboom Room and the Little Shrimp.

I’m glad I was able to enjoy the “riffraff” during its heyday. So much fun.

[Luv2play]

The beach at the foot of the stairs at the Boomboom was very cruisey at night. Lots of rocks to retreat behind. I suppose that is a dead scene as well.

[marylander1940]

Compared to what other generations had to deal with Covid-19 is nothing!

[+ Charlie]

Compared to what other generations had to deal with Covid-19 is nothing!

That is certainly an exaggeration, but it is true that at any time in history there has always been somewhere in the world where normal conditions have been truly horrendous for most people. I have just finished a book about the "Black Death" in Europe in the 14th century, when no one understood what they were dealing with, how to prevent it or how to treat it, and people were dropping dead within a day or two of developing repulsive physical symptoms. Plagues have ruined lives throughout human history, and we are lucky to understand and have as much control as we do over our situation.

[marylander1940]

That is certainly an exaggeration, but it is true that at any time in history there has always been somewhere in the world where normal conditions have been truly horrendous for most people. I have just finished a book about the "Black Death" in Europe in the 14th century, when no one understood what they were dealing with, how to prevent it or how to treat it, and people were dropping dead within a day or two of developing repulsive physical symptoms. Plagues have ruined lives throughout human history, and we are lucky to understand and have as much control as we do over our situation.

 

No exaggeration!

 

Covid-19 is not as deadly as the 1918 Kansas Flu pandemic, etc. We also have internet, streaming services, delivery of goods, etc.

 

We've been told to wear a mask, wash our hands, stay 6 feet away and sit our fat asses at home as much as possible and we're complaining about it as if that was a war effort? Others (essential workers) must get out and work to keep the society moving...

[+ WilliamM]

No exaggeration!

 

Covid-19 is not as deadly as the 1918 Kansas Flu pandemic, etc. We also have internet, streaming services, delivery of goods, etc.

 

We've been told to wear a mask, wash our hands, stay 6 feet away and sit our fat asses at home as much as possible and we're complaining about it as if that was a war effort? Others (essential workers) must get out and work to keep the society moving...

 

 

My mother was born in 1908, and never mentioned the 1918 flu, and neither did my grandma, or her seven children older than my mother. Same with my father who born in 1906.

 

My two grandfathers worked throughout the 1918 flu.

[+ Pensant]

A great aunt died of the misnamed Spanish Flu, along with perhaps 50 million+ others. Historians don’t know the precise death toll. Pale Rider is a great story of that pandemic.

[Luv2play]

There is anecdotal and then there are statistics. And there is history, which is only useful if people are aware of it. Unfortunately, most people are not schooled in history. I always think there is something to learn from other peoples’ experiences, or anecdotal evidence. But then there are the cold, hard facts of history, as much as we can trust the sources. Reading accounts of the black plague in Europe, where populations in large centres such as London were reduced by one third or more, COVID19 doesn’t even rank in the same league. Nor will it, I dare to say, given modern scientific knowledge, assuming the politicians don’t screw it up.

Covid19 will not even compare to the Spanish flu, which killed at least 60 million worldwide. Just over 1 million so far. And the world is at last 3 or 4 times more populous. If I had to make a comparison, I would not say Covid19 is “nothing” in terms of previous plagues, but it is certainly not the mass killer that those earlier pandemics were. On the other hand, the economic impacts have probably been the worst, since we are so interconnected globally today, as never before, even 100 years ago.

[+ MakeMeCowboy]

Months ago, educating myself on historical pandemics helped me accept the realities of C19. I worked thru my dismay that I'd have to live thru one in my lifetime... then accepted it as one more thing not within my control. Next, I adopted all of the responsible protocols, etc. NEXT, I stopped reading and/or listening to any and all news (that was 4 months ago.). I limited talking to those around me who insisted on perseverating on C19 and world politics. I have a few physician friends who update me here and there.

 

While a bit simplistic... this lifestyle has allowed my mind to focus and develop new habits and interests. Really good things have emerged. Every once in a while I get anxious about knowing NOTHING, that I dip my toe into a news source. That lasts for less than 5 minutes every time.

 

For now, my plan is to reevaluate things on November 3rd.

[+ sync]

My main concern is that, as is human nature, the longer the C19 threat persists, the more complacent we become. I notice that there are already some references to C19 in the past tense, such as comparing infection/death rates to past pandemics. C19 is not over, and we do not yet know if/when there will be any vaccine assistance or if/when C19 will mutate into something even more insidious. Too many, from mis/disinformation and/or frustration are resisting cautionary aids and behavior.

[Cooper]

Admin Note. Moderators have received a few reports asking that members stay on topic. I’m sure the OP would also appreciate that. Thanks.

[+ MakeMeCowboy]

@Oliver... I think that resentment is independent of age. I believe that every age group can make a case for their resentment. For me, age draws into question a) compliance to protocols and b) ability fo control their resentment responsibly.

[Rudynate]

@Oliver... I think that resentment is independent of age. I believe that every age group can make a case for their resentment. For me, age draws into question a) compliance to protocols and b) ability fo control their resentment responsibly.

 

 

I think its good to to acknowledge the resentment but to "make a case for it" doesnt seem wise. Like it or not, the pandemic isn't an inconvenience that we are not supposed to have to endure. It's life and sometimes life REALLY sucks, like now.