? NYC New Standard Rates ?

[+ nycman]

I’d say $300 was the norm 8 months ago and that $250 is the “new” norm.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see $200 as the norm soon.

Just about everyone I know in NYC has had their income cut by 1/3 to 1/2.

That‘s assuming they even have a job anymore. Many don’t.

I don’t think escort income is immune.

In fact, they may even be more vulnerable as demand dries up and “supply” increases.

[+ keroscenefire]

I was just in NYC Labor Day weekend and $300 was quote to me across the board with really no deals for extended time or anything. I met with two escorts..one was worth it 100%...the other I say wasn't quite worth $300, but was fun and ok. But as far as I could tell, nobody in NYC was providing discounts at all.

[mike carey]

So, I was already getting sad thinking that my trip to NYC it was going out of hand due to budgetary restrictions.

By the time you factor in currency rates, it's worse for those of us with lower valued currencies.

I believe you said you are Canadian. Here is something to think about when you think about the rates quoted to you:

I suspect most Canadians are, like me, painfully aware that in our home currencies it's a lot more dollars. But that said, we realise that everything is priced in local currency, so we have to live with that and not fixate on the converted price. I've found that there is a certain convergence of the ticket price for many goods and services in AUD, CAD, NZD and USD in the respective countries regardless of the conversion rate. When I'm travelling I tend not to convert prices to AUD, just think about them in whatever currency they're quoted (it was different in the 70s when I first went to Europe). (As an aside though, I would hesitate to pay a rate here that was the AUD equivalent of one that I might be happy to pay in the US.)

[Chad Constantine]

Who are these guys that are quoting 200/250?

I keep on asking and all I get are 350 or 300.

[Skip]

AND.. if you like it, and you have the money, pay it. This is not about the price of gasoline to get to work or putting meals on your family's table. THis is a discretionary recreational expense. Go to.....say New York, you can stay at the new Edition, Courtyard Suites or the W. All have different pricing models. Pick the one you like, pay the price enjoy..... or you can always just choose to stay home.

[+ MakeMeCowboy]

The world is in transition and my small business is taking its share of a financial hit. When I start hiring again, I'll no longer ask for the provider's rate.

I'll communicate that my paying rate is $250 and willing to tip up to $300. I have no problem paying the $300 when the provider lives up to his advertisement that enticed me to contact him. I will also confirm that payment will be made after the service has been rendered.

 

In the past, when I've paid the premium asked by some providers ($500 was the highest,) the majority of it was for ego... not skill and/or overall experience. Those days are over.

[Skip]

The world is in transition and my small business is taking its share of a financial hit. When I start hiring again, I'll no longer ask for the provider's rate.

I'll communicate that my paying rate is $250 and willing to tip up to $300. I have no problem paying the $300 when the provider lives up to his advertisement that enticed me to contact him. I will also confirm that payment will be made after the service has been rendered.

 

In the past, when I've paid the premium asked by some providers ($500 was the highest,) the majority of it was for ego... not skill and/or overall experience. Those days are over.

And being the customer, that is completely your right.

[cany10011]

It‘s been said before that the prices requested are what the market will bear. If they are asking, it must mean that some clients are willing to pay that price (or at least we are led to believe). Otherwise, the rates will adjust accordingly.

[orville]

Who are these guys that are quoting 200/250?

I keep on asking and all I get are 350 or 300.

When I replied to the guy who quoted me the numbers in my OP, that I was not interested, he immediately replied: "What are your rates?". Such a weird, transactional, and needy question; and just the confirmation that he was just trying to make some extra bucks out of me, not that he firmly thought the quoted numbers corresponded to the true value of his service.

[Skip]

It‘s been said before that the prices requested are what the market will bear. If they are asking, it must mean that some clients are willing to pay that price (or at least we are led to believe). Otherwise, the rates will adjust accordingly.

You studied economics as well, supply and demand

[orville]

... pay the price enjoy...

... the majority of it was for ego... not skill and/or overall experience.

And being the customer, that is completely your right.

Absolutely. PRICE does not equal VALUE.

We can pay more, just not for egos, but rather for more time, assets, skill, and/or experience.

[Skip]

When I replied to the guy who quoted me the numbers in my OP, that I was not interested, he immediately replied: "What are your rates?". Such a weird, transactional, and needy question; and just the confirmation that he was just trying to make some extra bucks out of me, not that he firmly thought the quoted numbers corresponded to the true value of his service.

I would do the same. Like EBAY "or best offer" Once again, law of supply and demand

[cany10011]

You studied economics as well, supply and demand

I‘m sure that was a joke, as I don’t know anything about numbers or money. It‘s just common sense...lol.

[orville]

I would do the same. Like EBAY "or best offer"

You'd reply saying: "I'm willing to pay $XXX"?

[cany10011]

You'd reply saying: "I'm willing to pay $XXX"?

ooh... i feel like it would cause hard feelings if I said something lower than their ask... but it is a market and I guess they are putting themselves out there and probably will expect some “best offers”... Has anyone been to the shops in beijing where you have to start at 10 percent of their asking price and work your way up? I was there with my brother and he started so low that the girls in the stall cried. It‘s all part of a game of negotiations but I don’t like playing that game, especially if it comes to something as intimate as sex.

[former lurker]

When I replied to the guy who quoted me the numbers in my OP, that I was not interested, he immediately replied: "What are your rates?". Such a weird, transactional, and needy question; and just the confirmation that he was just trying to make some extra bucks out of me, not that he firmly thought the quoted numbers corresponded to the true value of his service.

 

Or he was looking to guage the market, not necessarily to cut a deal with you. It's not like there's a published rate that's a standard like, for example, the price of a stock sold on an exchange. We all gather info in our own ways.

[cany10011]

Or he was looking to guage the market, not necessarily to cut a deal with you. It's not like there's a published rate that's a standard like, for example, the price of a stock sold on an exchange. We all gather info in our own ways.

Since the rates are not posted nowadays, it perhaps gives the provider more lattitude to test the market and ask for a higher rate?

[dcman]

Some are definitely testing the market. I had an email from a fantastic provider who will be coming to town soon. He wanted $400. I just said thanks but not interested. Then he writes back and said, okay how about $300, I said I was not hiring right now. He writes back okay how about $500 for 2 hours?

[Skip]

Personally I don't negotiate and I think it throws things into a negative situation. I ask the price, I either say yes or walk away. I suppose there are a lot of variables as to what I am willing to pay at any given time. Value is sometime overcome by desire, convenience and opportunity.

[+ Pensant]

$350? No way would I pay that, even in NYC. I think $250 is more reasonable. If someone wants to quote $300 or higher, I'll just decline and let them offer lower if they want. I don't like negotiating and risking hard feelings. Some guys ask for higher fees first just to see if they can get it. I have paid higher rates in the past but I've never felt like I got my money's worth for the difference. I don't see the point anymore. There are other guys who will be happy with $250 and do just as good a job, if not better.

While haggling can be off-putting, I have often countered $300 hourly with $500 for two and have never encountered any hard feelings; in fact, these sessions have led to subsequent meet-ups.

[+ Pensant]

I’d say $300 was the norm 8 months ago and that $250 is the “new” norm.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see $200 as the norm soon.

Just about everyone I know in NYC has had their income cut by 1/3 to 1/2.

That‘s assuming they even have a job anymore. Many don’t.

I don’t think escort income is immune.

In fact, they may even be more vulnerable as demand dries up and “supply” increases.

Especially given the exodus of high-earners from the city.

[former lurker]

Especially given the exodus of high-earners from the city.

 

Corona has impacts all the way around. It both shrinks the hiring market (the demand) and the offerers (the supply). It depresses the income of a lot of clients, but also makes escorts more dependent on higher rates from those who still can afford to hire. It makes sense to me that clients, from our perspective, expect prices to be lower because of corona while escorts, from their perspective, may expect them to be higher. But we're talking about people and experiences that aren't formulaic. Ultimately, what you're willing to pay depends on the extent to which a particular provider appeals to you.

 

I don't think there's much use in trying to figure out what guys "should" be charging. You inquire and go from there.

[+ FrankR]

Personally I don't negotiate and I think it throws things into a negative situation. I ask the price, I either say yes or walk away. I suppose there are a lot of variables as to what I am willing to pay at any given time. Value is sometime overcome by desire, convenience and opportunity.

I am the same way. Have seen a few cases where I declined and the provider asked me what my usual rate is - I provide that information freely but am unlikely to hire him after we had this discussion. Service will almost always be subpar.

[dbar123]

Some are definitely testing the market. I had an email from a fantastic provider who will be coming to town soon. He wanted $400. I just said thanks but not interested. Then he writes back and said, okay how about $300, I said I was not hiring right now. He writes back okay how about $500 for 2 hours?

 

I only allow the escort to get one piss on the tree. If the price is too high I politely decline and move on. If everyone did this it would speed up stabilization of prices.

 

I also don’t respond to further discussion of price, even if they try to up sell their value as the best and I will be missing out. My loss of course.