Escorts with Agents

[Kevin Slater]

It's very easy to get an EIN as a sole-proprietor. I used to work as freelance journalist/editor and that is what I did. You just have to put "cash accounting" as your method and then put whatever income you made. For escorts, I'd imagine Massage Therapist would be very acceptable category for the IRS...it is listed as one of the occupations you can choose. You can even look up the mean annual wage and ensure that you are comparable for that category.

 

And a sole proprietor with no employees doesn't really need an EIN; he can use his SSN as his tax ID. Should he have a solo 401k, however, he'll need one once that balance passes 250k in order to file a form 5500.

 

Kevin Slater

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

Perhaps it’s just me, but I don’t like finding out that I deal with an agent when trying to interact with an escort. If somehow I find that out, I am likely to lose interest altogether in booking. Particularly if we’re talking about bookings that are expensive. If you can afford a booking agent, you’re charging too much. And if you don’t pay your agent but think you’re that busy that you need a one, then you have an inflated sense of yourself and I don’t need to spend time with that kind of personality – or encourage it with my financial support.

 

Apologies if this topic has already been discussed in depth elsewhere. I didn’t find it when I did a search, but perhaps I didn’t search for the right term.

 

My preference is dealing directly with the escort. However, I know of a couple of well respected escorts who have used assistants to manage appointments for them. For an guy who is absent-minded, it prevents double booking and in some cases the booker sends reminders for the calendar. For a guy who travels internationally, it may assist with getting responses back more timely than could be handled while out of the country.

 

Many other professions have assistants handle bookings. I see no problem with escorts also having assistants - it just isn't right for everyone.

[Luv2play]

You're mistaken. Escorting income, like any other self-employed income, is indeed taxed.

 

Kevin Slater

Interesting. I work with a number of volunteer organizations and the auditors are always telling us that cash transactions lead to the most amount of fraud as they are notoriously hard to track. Basically we are told we have to trust the employees we hire to run the businesses. In my own participation, I always try to get checks so that the money is traceable thought the banking system And I am also protected from any accusations of skimming. On the escort business I have always paid in cash over some 30 odd years of hiring. All of it untraceable. I don;t consider it my business and would never think of offering an escort a check or a credit card payment. LOL.

[xyz48B]

Mr. Slater provided you a direct response to your answer. Just because he is concise in a response does not make it coy.

“Coy” is a reluctance to engage what is actually being addressed. “Mr. Slater” was coy in that he wants us to believe escort income is reported to the IRS. Mr. Slater may report his, but we all know that the vast majority of escorts do not report it – precisely because of the questions it raises. Perhaps Mr. Slater includes his money obtained through escorting as a gain for his rental business. Whatever the case, it’s not for being an escort qua escort.

 

The idea that we should accept that providers report their income from escorting for tax purposes is almost too rich to take seriously. The level to which some here will go to defend providers, the absurd lengths, is astounding. We all know most escorts don’t report the money they receive to the IRS. Yet here we are seriously discussing it.

 

Recall the discussion earlier about housing and proof of income for a lease? Tax documentarion does that. You may have the funds and the income, but if you can’t legally document it, it doesn’t matter. If escorts don’t have some other sort of avenue to report their escorting income by, they have no legal documentation of their income. And if they’re reporting escorting income as a gain from running, say, a rental business, that’s illegal. cf. Breaking Bad. Any CPA can tell you that, Mr. Fitzpatrick.

 

The absurdity of discussing the idea that escorts report their income from escorting as taxable to the IRS...yet here we are.

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

“Coy” is a reluctance to engage what is actually being addressed. “Mr. Slater” was coy in that he wants us to believe escort income is reported to the IRS. Mr. Slater may report his, but we all know that the vast majority of escorts do not report it – precisely because of the questions it raises. Perhaps Mr. Slater includes his money obtained through escorting as a gain for his rental business. Whatever the case, it’s not for being an escort qua escort.

 

Mr. Slater is citing tax law. I think you are doing Mr. Slater an injustice in assuming anything about the way he files his taxes.

 

Many escorts DO report this income on a Schedule C , especially those who's primary income source is escorting. While I do believe that there may be some escorts who do not report some or all of the income from escorting, that would not be the professional advice I would provide anyone. Most individuals want to avoid the consequences of having the IRS find that income was not reported.

 

The idea that we should accept that providers report their income from escorting for tax purposes is almost too rich to take seriously. The level to which some here will go to defend providers, the absurd lengths, is astounding. We all know most escorts don’t report the money they receive to the IRS. Yet here we are seriously discussing it.

 

In additional to Mr. Slater, I am aware of several other escorts who do report the income. Admittedly, I have not surveyed every escort that advertises services; however, I'm not aware of any statistical studies showing reporting rates.

 

Recall the discussion earlier about housing and proof of income for a lease? Tax documentarion does that. You may have the funds and the income, but if you can’t legally document it, it doesn’t matter. If escorts don’t have some other sort of avenue to report their escorting income by, they have no legal documentation of their income. And if they’re reporting escorting income as a gain from running, say, a rental business, that’s illegal. cf. Breaking Bad. Any CPA can tell you that, Mr. Fitzpatrick.

 

Mr. Xyz - - Again you make assumptions. Nowhere did I state that escorts should report income under false pretenses. Escorts can legally report the income from escorting as an entertainment business. My career is in the financial industry and I'm well aware of tax reporting requirements. In fact I have advised a handful of escorts on the responsibilities of reporting this income on a Schedule C.

[+ keroscenefire]

 

The absurdity of discussing the idea that escorts report their income from escorting as taxable to the IRS...yet here we are.

 

I actually think a lot of escorts do report their income. I definitely know some that do. Again it's not hard to just claim you are an independent masseur and/or model. Some guys who do porn probably get some payments that way anyway. There are literally tax codes for both professions. Does that mean they are reporting 100 percent of their income? Very likely not, just as a server doesn't declare their cash tips. As long as their income and deductions look similar to what people make in that position, it's probably not even very suspicious to the IRS. You could probably even do some business deductions though it may be prudent to do too many in order to avoid an audit. The IRS barely audits anymore since they've been cut to the bone. They only audit .45% of tax returns a year. Some escort that said they make about $45,000 a year as an independent masseur (well within the range of that profession) and pays their 15 percent self-employment tax has probably nothing to worry about.

[Kevin Slater]

we all know that the vast majority of escorts do not report it – precisely because of the questions it raises.

 

You can assume anything you wish, but if you claim to know it, I'd be curious to see your source.

 

Perhaps Mr. Slater includes his money obtained through escorting as a gain for his rental business. Whatever the case, it’s not for being an escort qua escort.

 

And how do you presume to know the details of my 1040?

 

Claiming escorting income as rental income would not fund the filer's social security, as passive income isn't subject to FICA whereas earned income is.

 

Kevin Slater

[builder boy]

I thought this post was about agents or pimps?

[orville]

Why and how did this thread about escort agencies become a fight over tax declarations?

Guys, Covid fatigue is real but I think we are all here to help each other, not to win an argument.

Edited September 15, 2020 by orville

[orville]

I thought this post was about agents or pimps?

We posted almost at the same time lol.

[+ harey]

That’s a gross generalization with bias from an older generation. Just like it’s a gross generalization to say most people your age never master texting.

Are you really 31 or actually 13?

[sincitymix]

sooooo.. about escorts with agents... anyone have some true horror stories?

[marylander1940]

sooooo.. about escorts with agents... anyone have some true horror stories?

 

The few times I realized I kept wonder who was in the other side and how he looked. Reminded me of this episode of "Married with children" when Peggy's mother is making money from phone sex.

 

[sincitymix]

The few times I realized I kept wonder who was in the other side and how he looked. Reminded me of this episode of "Married with children" when Peggy's mother is making money from phone sex.

 

omg i loved that episode lol

[marylander1940]

omg i loved that episode lol

 

Divine was about to play her but she died the night before. Such a loss!

[sincitymix]

Divine was about to play her but she died the night before. Such a loss!

I kind of liked that they never showed her. allowed my imagination to run wild with gigantic godzilla esque she beast lol

[funvolta]

Former planetjockboys agent still runs and manages rather many, really many escort ads on Rentmen and Friendboy. He communicates with clients trough texts messages and usually doesn’t answer calls. The majority of “his” escorts are 100% straight. Sometimes it’s awkward when you discuss everything in texting but the escort who comes over has no clue about your intos and(or) requests. I’m sure he is not the only one

[+ azdr0710]

knowing I'm dealing with an agency from the beginning is obviously more convenient and less awkward.....don't mind it if I know going in....

 

like others here know, Dave at mantoman in California was fantastic......honest and trusty, he'd definitely tell me if a guy would work out for me....or not......one dude he represented several years ago remains one of my best experiences: ex-Marine and now a county fireman/paramedic, hung, 100% masculine, bottom, great face, tight/lean body, eager to please........he didn't kiss, though (entirely fine with me), and, as a result, couldn't stay with the agency......

 

[Guest Justin7402]

Not really a horror story, but going to meet a guy and the agent had the wrong room number (room number they gave me didn't exist). There was a huge lag time where I would text the agent asking for clarification on where I was going and the agent had to text the masseur and then wait for them to text back so they could text me. It all got sorted in the end but had me wandering around lost for a good 10-15 minutes.

[coriolis888]

Let us not forget about the escorts who go from city to city who speak very little English and who have a "handler" or "agent" pretending to be the person communicating with clients responding to rentmen ads.

 

Below is linked a forum thread that discusses a few European escorts who have a handler.

 

They were in Los Angeles not long ago.

 

Then they went to Washington, D. C then to somewhere else. Then back to Los Angeles.

 

I met one of the escorts who was nice and who resembled, somewhat, the stolen photos shown in the rentmen ads.

 

Another forum member met yet another such "escort" and commented on the meeting in the below cited thread.

 

See the below thread and be aware of this type of "handler" or "agent"

 

https://m4m-forum.org/threads/victor-jokers-in-los-angeles.155275/

[rvwnsd]

Why and how did this thread about escort agencies become a fight over tax declarations?

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It is difficult to answer this question without using profanity or terms that could be described as pejorative.

 

To my knowledge, I've never dealt with an escort's personal agent or assistant nor have I seriously considered hiring someone whose ad said they did. One escort I've hired (and had a great time with) started using a service but stopped doing so because it turned clients off.

 

On the other hand, an agency that advertises escorts is completely different. Although I never hired any of his guys, Dave at Man For Man was great. I came close to hiring a guy once and then Dave called regarding negative feedback he heard from a couple of clients about the guy. He wouldn't send the guy on any more appointments until he clarified what had happened. Dave told me he was dropping the guy and that was that.

[tsgarp]

Former planetjockboys agent still runs and manages rather many, really many escort ads on Rentmen and Friendboy. He communicates with clients trough texts messages and usually doesn’t answer calls. The majority of “his” escorts are 100% straight. Sometimes it’s awkward when you discuss everything in texting but the escort who comes over has no clue about your intos and(or) requests. I’m sure he is not the only one

Are you referring to Butch?