411 on IvyLeagueHungVrs

[former lurker]

Comcast’s tiered services pricing structure is less complex than this guy’s.

 

It's not the norm, but it's hardly complex. The only wrinkle is the "package" approach, but unless you're looking for multiple meetings over time, which presumably you'd only do once you already knew and felt comfortable with him, that's not an issue.

[+ RJD]

It's not the norm, but it's hardly complex. The only wrinkle is the "package" approach, but unless you're looking for multiple meetings over time, which presumably you'd only do once you already knew and felt comfortable with him, that's not an issue.

 

If you can afford to pre-pay 3600, 4800, or 7200 upfront, chances are you’re not worried about a “discount.” I’d hate to be the guy who pre-pays and Mr. Ivy League disappears before all of your time is used. Regardless, his prices are exorbitant.

[+ RJD]

It's not the norm, but it's hardly complex. The only wrinkle is the "package" approach, but unless you're looking for multiple meetings over time, which presumably you'd only do once you already knew and felt comfortable with him, that's not an issue.

 

If you can afford to pre-pay 3600, 4800, or 7200 upfront, chances are you’re not worried about a “discount.” I’d hate to be the guy who pre-pays and Mr. Ivy League disappears before all of your time is used. Regardless, his prices are exorbitant.

[former lurker]

If you can afford to pre-pay 3600, 4800, or 7200 upfront, chances are you’re not worried about a “discount.” I’d hate to be the guy who pre-pays and Mr. Ivy League disappears before all of your time is used. Regardless, his prices are exorbitant.

 

Okay. Valid point, although not the one you made and to which I responded. You're saying that he's too expensive. Fair enough judgement on your part. But his pricing isn't overly complicated.

[former lurker]

If you can afford to pre-pay 3600, 4800, or 7200 upfront, chances are you’re not worried about a “discount.” I’d hate to be the guy who pre-pays and Mr. Ivy League disappears before all of your time is used. Regardless, his prices are exorbitant.

 

Okay. Valid point, although not the one you made and to which I responded. You're saying that he's too expensive. Fair enough judgement on your part. But his pricing isn't overly complicated.

[Alec]

He is using a face filter

[Alec]

He is using a face filter

[CuriousByNature]

He is using a face filter

There's such a thing? Please let me know where I can get one so I can put away the paper bag I normally wear...?

[CuriousByNature]

He is using a face filter

There's such a thing? Please let me know where I can get one so I can put away the paper bag I normally wear...?

[GTMike]

I got in touch, and he was very nice but prices were sky-high...not just moderately overpriced but ridiculous and he wanted a two-hour minimum.

I get the impression that he's new and knows how pretty he is and is testing the waters to see how much he can get.

If he has a line of willing customers willing to pay those rates, then all the power to him. Definitely not for me though, unfortunately.

For whatever it's worth, he did send me the standard very detailed full response and same rate structure as others have commented on but despite that we've otherwise had "good" sane text conversations. I'm not in NY so we didn't really have to delve into any serious economic conversation and i didn't question him on the veracity of his photo's or profile but did ask a couple questions regarding it and found him to be appropriately responsive and seems like a genuine person. Again i didn't ask about photo's so don't interpret my comments as vouching for authenticity. He did indicate that "this", (specifically referring to having a public RM profile) was "all" ( insinuating publicly seeing clients) new to him. The way the conversation flowed the comment seemed reasonably plausible but again FWIW.

[thickornotatall]

Perfect! I hope he has a mean streak

[cany10011]

Interesting subject. Fluency in multiple languages is much more common outside the U.S. than it is within the U.S., although immigrants and their offspring often are fluent (at least for a few generations) in both English and the main language(s) of their country of origin. Then there are children of the upper classes who are tutored, attend boarding schools, summer/vacation in Europe, etc. Speaking European languages has always been a point of emphasis for these folks. Finally, as immigration patterns and global economic shifts occur, there's starting to be more of an emphasis in the U.S. on being multilingual. My nephew's wife grew up speaking both English and Spanish and is fluent in both, although English is her primary language. Her fluency in Spanish has been a huge asset in her chosen field of Human Resources.

 

 

Is his level of fluency the same as the first lady's?

[former lurker]

Is his level of fluency the same as the first lady's?

 

Well, that get's into the post-WWII division of Europe. Western European countries and Japan promoting English as an important language to learn. Those countries in the Soviet sphere were less likely to emphasize English. The U.S. was the major trading party with most of the non-Soviet dominated countries in Europe and with Japan.

[gersonides]

I’m just happy with his cute Mona Lisa smile rather than a failed attempt at the blue steel smoldering look that most guys have. Seriously.

[Enronnja]

I initially messaged him on RM, he replied a week later saying I should text him instead. He went on to send me that same bag of brochure shit rates and all the other useless stuff. Does he think I'm subscribing to Spotify or Office 365? I just blocked him, total turn off.

[Guest RexB]

I finally got a response on RM from him a week after sending one to him, the same day I started this thread. Also said to text him. So glad I found out way in advance from all of you. Thanks heaps. I just started unwatching this thread, as I now have zero interest in him and all his complications.

[excelntsvc]

now that everyone has had the chance to kick him around because he's more than they want to spend (after questioning his education, his fluency in languages, and his pricing structure) they can move on to the next new face … and wonder why the advertisers sometimes get snarky with them

[+ RJD]

now that everyone has had the chance to kick him around because he's more than they want to spend (after questioning his education, his fluency in languages, and his pricing structure) they can move on to the next new face … and wonder why the advertisers sometimes get snarky with them

 

Or it’s possible that clients, along with providers, have an aversion to time wasters. If you want to run this as a business, you don’t leave a potential client waiting a week and then provide your a la carte menu. And just as providers don’t like being low-balled, perhaps clients don’t like being quoted rates that are well above market. And yes, as a provider, he has every right to ask whatever rate he wants. As a client, I have every right to decline and move on. Are the people who contacted him and got the same response not supposed to share their experiences on a thread about him? I’m all for treating providers and their time respectfully, however, I expect the same in return.

[former lurker]

Or it’s possible that clients, along with providers, have an aversion to time wasters. If you want to run this as a business, you don’t leave a potential client waiting a week and then provide your a la carte menu. And just as providers don’t like being low-balled, perhaps clients don’t like being quoted rates that are well above market. And yes, as a provider, he has every right to ask whatever rate he wants. As a client, I have every right to decline and move on. Are the people who contacted him and got the same response not supposed to share their experiences on a thread about him? I’m all for treating providers and their time respectfully, however, I expect the same in return.

 

I'd quibble over the term "a la carte" menu. From what's been posted, it's menu of pricing "packages" for time. Although it's probably not the best fit for the escorting context, it's not dissimilar to how a lot of services are priced. You can pay monthly at x rate, or you can pay for a year in advance at a discounted rate, or you can enroll in autopay and pay a rate in between the two. When I read "a la carte" I think of it being about paying not for a block of time but separately for each activity. In the commercial context, it's like paying for basic cable then having to pay for each movie or event as a "pay per view" or "on demand" purchase.

 

Maybe I missed something, but ivyleaguehungvrs's fees seem more chock full of premium rates discounted for bulk purchase, not pay per item pricing.

[+ RJD]

I'd quibble over the term "a la carte" menu. From what's been posted, it's menu of pricing "packages" for time. Although it's probably not the best fit for the escorting context, it's not dissimilar to how a lot of services are priced. You can pay monthly at x rate, or you can pay for a year in advance at a discounted rate, or you can enroll in autopay and pay a rate in between the two. When I read "a la carte" I think of it being about paying not for a block of time but separately for each activity. In the commercial context, it's like paying for basic cable then having to pay for each movie or event as a "pay per view" or "on demand" purchase.

 

Maybe I missed something, but ivyleaguehungvrs's fees seem more chock full of premium rates discounted for bulk purchase, not pay per item pricing.

 

Are you his agent? You seem determined to defend this guy. Split hairs all you want over using the term ‘a la carte,’ I’m not subscribing to cable TV. This should be a simple transaction. I don’t want to spend time doing a deep-dive analysis of any provider’s pricing. Tell me your rates (timely) for one hour, two hours, overnight and that extended sessions can be discussed. It’s fine to have a pricing structure planned, but as a client, if I’m going to buy a “package,” it’s going to be after several sessions to be sure I’m compatible with and trust the provider. Its not going to happen with the first session.

[former lurker]

Nope. Odd reaction. I'm not saying he's worth the price, just that it's not "a la carte". It's a complex pricing scheme which, as I said, probably doesn't suit the escorting context. I guess I caught you at a bad moment.

[+ RJD]

Nope. Odd reaction. I'm not saying he's worth the price, just that it's not "a la carte". It's a complex pricing scheme which, as I said, probably doesn't suit the escorting context. I guess I caught you at a bad moment.

 

Odd reaction? ?

 

One man’s bad moment is another man’s logical moment.

[former lurker]

Odd reaction? ?

 

One man’s bad moment is another man’s logical moment.

 

The "odd" part was your suggesting I'm his agent or defending him. I didn't say anything in support of him. In fact, I suggested his complex pricing scheme wasn't well suited to escorting situations. You took (unnecessary) umbrage at my questioning the description as "a la carte", which it's not. You're free, as are we all, to find his pricing and his communication off putting. I suspect most will feel that way. I personally think he's priced himself too high, and that the discounted rates for bulk purchases are too much of a risk, similar to paying in advance only more so because you're paying for potentially multiple sessions in advance.

[excelntsvc]

rjd seems to have an axe to grind … enough already

[filmbuff78]

Well, I contacted him and he quoted me 450/hr to start. I told him thanks, but that's more than I'm used to spending. He asked me what my budget was. I told him that guys in LA are usually 300/hr plus tip. I was OK being flexible but a 50% markup was more than I was looking to spend. His response was, because he's a doctor and double Ivy League grad, he's more upscale than the other guys. I told him that the escorts here aren't hillbillies with straw in their teeth and many are college graduates themselves. Maybe not doctors, but they're educated at fine universities. Moving on....