Program Boys in Brazil & Corona

[brall3]

Hello everyone,

 

Like many of you I have shared good experiences and bad ones on this site.

 

Well here is one not so good. With the Saunas closed in Brazil many guys texted me daily crying and asking for money because they have no work. You would not believe some of the very sad tales they told me. For about a week I would receive from 5 to 10 texts per day, per boy, asking for money. Some even sent nude photos and videos of them jerking and cumming. And the stories were tear jerkers

 

Finally three days ago I gave in and sent $150 to six differeny boys. To say the least, I have not heard from any of them again and only one texted thank you. How sad.

 

For years I knew these guys did not really give a damn about us, they only want the money. And as the expression goes: "no good deed goes unpunished". So true so true.

 

Just venting my disappointment and frustration with the program guys. Years ago my Brazilian friend said be careful with these guys and leave the love inside the sauna. They know older foreigners are easy targets for swindling money from them. But this is an all time low, even for them

[Guy Fawkes]

Next time the one of the six contacts you: "I'm sorry you didn't express appreciation to me last time"

[+ José Soplanucas]

Hello everyone,

 

Like many of you I have shared good experiences and bad ones on this site.

 

Well here is one not so good. With the Saunas closed in Brazil many guys texted me daily crying and asking for money because they have no work. You would not believe some of the very sad tales they told me. For about a week I would receive from 5 to 10 texts per day, per boy, asking for money. Some even sent nude photos and videos of them jerking and cumming. And the stories were tear jerkers

 

Finally three days ago I gave in and sent $150 to six differeny boys. To say the least, I have not heard from any of them again and only one texted thank you. How sad.

 

For years I knew these guys did not really give a damn about us, they only want the money. And as the expression goes: "no good deed goes unpunished". So true so true.

 

Just venting my disappointment and frustration with the program guys. Years ago my Brazilian friend said be careful with these guys and leave the love inside the sauna. They know older foreigners are easy targets for swindling money from them. But this is an all time low, even for them

 

Are you serious? Are you blaming them for taking advantage of a richer foreigner? Who is to blame, them or you for having ridiculous expectations?

 

I am not trying to be rude. The situation looks like you need somebody to smack you down to Earth.

[brall3]

Where can we meet so you can back up your words?

[brall3]

When did saying "THANK YOU" become ridiculous expectations? Again, name the time, date and place for the smack down. I will be happy to meet you; I am quite serious. Thank you.

[+ José Soplanucas]

wow. You took it literally? I see that besides good sense, you also lack sense of humor.

[lonely_john]

I think that “Brazil and Corona” needs to be removed from the post title. This could have happened to the OP anywhere anytime. As his current title/rank shows, he’s clearly a ”Novice”.

[+ Tarte Gogo]

There are hundreds of stories like yours on the internet from the last 25 years.

3rd-world-country guy needs money and knows an American guy who has more than he needs.

3rd world country guy tells a sad story. American guy sends some money.

3rd-world-country guy laughs at how easy it was.

It is definitely not related to corona.

[sydneyboy]

I too have read countless stories on the internet and personal stories from acquaintances who go to countries like Brazil, Morocco, Thailand, the Philippines etc looking for "love'' or thinking the boys actually care about them. The harsh reality is that we want sex and the boys in saunas, go go bars etc want money, and as much as they can get.

I have a friend who has 4 university degrees (including a PhD) who met a boy in Morocco about 15 years ago. He has paid for his education, health, rent and ad hoc amounts for every conceivable reason. Along with all his local friends I am gobsmacked at his gullibility. The individual known as Trilingual who set up the Gay Travel Brazil website I have read on BoyToy came to grief after marrying his Brazilian boyfriend and if these reports are to be believed is virtually destitute.

At least one story I read on the now very quiet Cruising for Sex site some years ago was very amusing. This American met a go go boy in Pattaya, Thailand. The boy invited him to the family home in the countryside. On arrival mother announced that her refrigerator had broken down and it would cost the equivalent of a couple of hundred dollars to replace it and would he oblige. He agreed. The boy told him he would write his name in texta on the side of the refrigerator to remind him of their ''love''. He found himself alone in the house and discovered the name of a foreigner on the side of the stove, microwave, TV and every other electrical appliance and stick of furniture in the house. I sent him a PM telling I found the story delightful and he had made my day. He replied back assuring me it was true. I replied back telling him I didn't doubt it for a moment. I have been to Thailand about a dozen times and that story was pure unadulterated Thai.

I must confess to being rather cynical about ''love'' but on balance I think it is better to be cynical than conned, or worse have your heart broken.

[+ José Soplanucas]

I must confess to being rather cynical about ''love'' but on balance I think it is better to be cynical than conned, or worse have your heart broken.

 

What about being realistic. Having "love" expectations is absurd, and a sign of serious emotional issues. But the radically opposite mindset, looking for pure sex, is not either the best way to fully enjoy the experience these boys offer. If you are not delusional you can build very appealing relationships, at least in Brazil and Argentina. I have no experience with Thailand.

[Ajac]

I am sorry you felt taken advantage of. But then again aren't you happy that you are in a position that you are the taken advantage of and not one of these kids that live in a situation where they have to stoop to such tactics? I have had crushes on masseurs in fact one of my current regulars but I had to open my eyes to the fact that this is a business arrangement. He is great at making me feel that I am special that is partly what I pay for. We no longer live in a world where people say please and thank you we live in a world where bad behavior is rewarded so I guess you should count yourself lucky you received one thank you.

[GR0981]

Idk - these guys are hard up for money. And just as “all they care about money” can be said the same for us clients “all we care is about the sex”. I know it’s how the biz works down there but the fact that you’re having quality time with a hot guy for like 40-60 bucks usd versus 300 in the states always felt wrong to me when I visited.

[coriolis888]

Idk - these guys are hard up for money. And just as “all they care about money” can be said the same for us clients “all we care is about the sex”. I know it’s how the biz works down there but the fact that you’re having quality time with a hot guy for like 40-60 bucks usd versus 300 in the states always felt wrong to me when I visited.

 

 

When in Rome, do as the Romans do

 

When visiting a foreign land, follow the customs of those who live in it. It can also mean that when you are in an unfamiliar situation, you should follow the lead of those who know the ropes.

[solacesoul]

A good policy is to give from the heart without any expectations. As a wise woman told me years ago, “expectations create disappointments”. A corollary to that policy is to give only as much as you can afford to lose.

 

If it brings you joy to send $150 USD to 6 different BrazilIan garotos de programa through Western Union — knowing that doing so won’t make your relationship with any of them any closer or any more intimate or special than the ones they have with clients that do not — and it doesn’t cause you any financial pain or discomfort, then do it to your heart’s content.

[Rod Hagen]

Brall, this is a very sad story. Absent the thank you you deserve, please try to take solace, and maybe after that some happiness, that you helped some men who are currently faced with terrible scarcity.

[SirBillybob]

I actually don’t think the OP is American, do not know if there should be an R before the $, and require more denomination details. If the 150 is reais, I don’t think it would cover much let alone a few MBs to keep one’s mobile phone operating to even be able to WhatsApp text.

 

And WU or Moneygram, etc, skim so much, the transfer companies should be expressing gratitude.

 

Thank you in advance for what I expect will be the cozy affectionate warmth of receptivity to this thread contribution.

[SirBillybob]

À propos of cell phones in any country, but a bit off topic, I have to roll my eyes at the idea that citizens will accept being gouged for perMB data in order to facilitate their whereabouts being tracked by authorities.

[orville]

Brazil or anywhere,

with or without corona,

I would only hand some dollas ova',

after the cock's been already inside of me.

Edited April 19, 2020 by orville

[sydneyboy]

What about being realistic. Having "love" expectations is absurd, and a sign of serious emotional issues. But the radically opposite mindset, looking for pure sex, is not either the best way to fully enjoy the experience these boys offer. If you are not delusional you can build very appealing relationships, at least in Brazil and Argentina. I have no experience with Thailand.

I think I am being realistic. I have the greatest sympathy for Brall who comes across as an honest decent man who was genuinely trying to help people who he believed were in need. The original advice he received about leaving love in the saunas is well taken. A friend of mine met a boy in one of the saunas a few years ago and agreed to meet him for a ''date'' the next day. The boy turned up at his hotel and my friend saw a different side to him. Firstly he indulged liberally in the alcohol in the mini bar then when they left the hotel this boy's idea of a ''date'' was to go on a shopping spree with my friend's credit card. My friend realised what he had got himself into, took his leave and hurried back to his hotel decidedly wiser. This is one example of ''the experience these boys have to offer.''

[+ José Soplanucas]

I think I am being realistic. I have the greatest sympathy for Brall who comes across as an honest decent man who was genuinely trying to help people who he believed were in need. The original advice he received about leaving love in the saunas is well taken. A friend of mine met a boy in one of the saunas a few years ago and agreed to meet him for a ''date'' the next day. The boy turned up at his hotel and my friend saw a different side to him. Firstly he indulged liberally in the alcohol in the mini bar then when they left the hotel this boy's idea of a ''date'' was to go on a shopping spree with my friend's credit card. My friend realised what he had got himself into, took his leave and hurried back to his hotel decidedly wiser. This is one example of ''the experience these boys have to offer.''

 

Awwww, poor generous soul. Indeed, you and your friends should stay away from Brazil.

[sydneyboy]

Awwww, poor generous soul. Indeed, you and your friends should stay away from Brazil.

This is an attitude that is mercifully very rare on this forum. Civility and courtesy and respect for other opinions are usually the order of the day.

[brall3]

SOLACESOUL wrote "expectations create disappointments”. and AJAC wrote: "We no longer live in a world where people say please and thank you we live in a world where bad behavior is rewarded"

 

How sad but these are two very profound and true comments.

 

For over a decade I make financial contributions to several organizations and always receive nice "thank you" notes and of course a request for future donations (ha-ha). At Thanksgiving and Christmas I make a large financial contribution to a local shelter and volunteer my help in serving meals. Everyone is so appreciative and thankful. I have no problem in sharing my blessings. But I was blown away when I didn't get a simple "thank you" from the Brazilians guys.

 

As one of you mentioned, yes three of the six guys have already texted me asking for more financial help. Guess whose messages were ignored and numbers removed?

 

To all of you who took the time to reply to my post, THANK YOU!

[sydneyboy]

SOLACESOUL wrote "expectations create disappointments”. and AJAC wrote: "We no longer live in a world where people say please and thank you we live in a world where bad behavior is rewarded"

 

How sad but these are two very profound and true comments.

 

For over a decade I make financial contributions to several organizations and always receive nice "thank you" notes and of course a request for future donations (ha-ha). At Thanksgiving and Christmas I make a large financial contribution to a local shelter and volunteer my help in serving meals. Everyone is so appreciative and thankful. I have no problem in sharing my blessings. But I was blown away when I didn't get a simple "thank you" from the Brazilians guys.

 

As one of you mentioned, yes three of the six guys have already texted me asking for more financial help. Guess whose messages were ignored and numbers removed?

 

To all of you who took the time to reply to my post, THANK YOU!

Beautifully written. You are obviously a very fine human being.

[Monarchy79]

Hello everyone,

 

Like many of you I have shared good experiences and bad ones on this site.

 

Well here is one not so good. With the Saunas closed in Brazil many guys texted me daily crying and asking for money because they have no work. You would not believe some of the very sad tales they told me. For about a week I would receive from 5 to 10 texts per day, per boy, asking for money. Some even sent nude photos and videos of them jerking and cumming. And the stories were tear jerkers

 

Finally three days ago I gave in and sent $150 to six differeny boys. To say the least, I have not heard from any of them again and only one texted thank you. How sad.

 

For years I knew these guys did not really give a damn about us, they only want the money. And as the expression goes: "no good deed goes unpunished". So true so true.

 

Just venting my disappointment and frustration with the program guys. Years ago my Brazilian friend said be careful with these guys and leave the love inside the sauna. They know older foreigners are easy targets for swindling money from them. But this is an all time low, even for them

 

Please don’t take this offensively, but what would make you think they should be “grateful”, for your “donations”..... they clearly understand that the transactional interactions they have with visitors from other countries are simply for 1.) sexual gratification, and 2.) exploitation. They know that what they are “paid”, are drops in the bucket for many travelers who visit those saunas, and know that they need every dime they can get for “services provided”. You've benefitted from cheap entertainment from workers who can’t demand higher pricing for quite some time. So although it’s good of you to send some money.... it’s not an honorable act of a saint.

[Monarchy79]

I think it’s funny how so many of those from the western world, travel to second and third world nations, exploiting economically disadvantaged men for sex, and then have the unmitigated audacity to be offended at their lack of “grattitude”. ?‍♂️

 

Many of these guys save you from having to empty your pockets for $500 per hour escorts in your own countries, and allow you to treat them like disposable orifices and phallics for your sheer cheap enjoyment.

 

So if some Brazillian guys doesn’t say “Thank You”, then so what?

 

You should actually be “Thanking ” him anyways....

Edited April 17, 2020 by Monarchy79